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Kim

Kim Report 14 May 2017 17:48

trying to trace parents, hilda died 23/09/2001 in Essex Colchester born 1903 not sure where or who to ones I have looked at say born 1904 any help anyone tia :-)

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 May 2017 17:53

For ref

Name: Hilda Cansdale
Birth Date: Nov 1903
Date of Registration: Sep 2001
Age at Death: 97
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Register Number: C82C
District and Subdistrict: 4691C
Entry Number: 213

Did Hilda ever marry? And if so to whom?

Andy

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 May 2017 17:56

Does her DC say widow or spinster? As there is no date to go with the month, it sounds as if the informant didn't have documented proof of her full DOB.

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 May 2017 18:01

Could someone with a sub look up the 1939 register to try to find her.

Andy

Kim

Kim Report 14 May 2017 18:02

not sure if she did marry? not got death cert yet was trying to find her on census but thankyou for helping me much appreciated.

Kim

Kim Report 14 May 2017 18:03

or because she was born in nov 1903 not registered till 1904?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 May 2017 18:05

If a spinster, a possibility in the 1939 Register


Cansdale Household (3 People)
Fields Farm Road , Lexden and Winstree R.D., Essex, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Hilda F Cansdale 09 Nov 1903 Unpaid Domestic Duties
SEX Female
MARITAL STATUS Single

Leonard A Cansdale 12 Nov 1906 General Labourer
SEX Male
MARITAL STATUS Single

Jessie Cansdale 25 Feb 1872 Unpaid Domestic Duties
SEX Female
MARITAL STATUSWidowed

RG101/1578H/014/26 Letter Code: DDML


Kayak

Kayak Report 14 May 2017 18:09

A possibility perhaps??? (as the dec quarter would fit with a Nov birth and if whoever registered the death didn't know exactly how old Hilda was)

Births Dec 1905

Cansdale Valentine Hilda Portsmouth 2b 439

Kim

Kim Report 14 May 2017 18:10

thankyou looks like her here as looked at census/electoral roll these were her brother and sister mother thankyou

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 May 2017 18:11

1911 censyus?

Name: Hilda Cansdale
Age in 1911: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1904
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Layer de la Haye, Essex
Civil Parish: Layer de la Hay
Search Photos: Search for 'Layer de la Hay' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: Layer De La Haye, Essex
Registration district: Lexden
Registration District Number: 199
Sub-registration district: Wivenhoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 108
Piece: 10329
Household Members:
Name Age
Jessie Cansdale 36
Hilda Cansdale 7
Leonard Cansdale 4
Bessie Cansdale 1

Andy

Kim

Kim Report 14 May 2017 18:17

thankyou

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 May 2017 18:17

Leonard?

CANSDALE, LEONARD ARTHUR DEMMENT Order
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in LEXDEN Volume 04A Page 830

Hilda?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1903 (>99%)
Demment Hilda Florence Lexden 4a 828


DEMMENT, HILDA FLORENCE - Order
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in LEXDEN Volume 04A Page 828

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 May 2017 18:18

Mothers marriage after birth of Hilda?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%)
CANSDALE Arthur Henry Lexden 4a 1368
Causdale Arthur Henry Lexden 4a 1368
Demment Jessie Lexden 4a 1368

Andy

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 May 2017 18:19

Looking for birth - Probably Leonard's giving mmn. From the free search on GRO

CANSDALE, LEONARD ARTHUR (mmn ) DEMMENT
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in LEXDEN Volume 04A Page 830

As there's no Hilda Cansdale mmn Demment, could she have been born before any marriage? The lack of a mmn on the index does suggest her mother was unmarried.

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
DEMMENT, HILDA FLORENCE -
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in LEXDEN Volume 04A Page 828

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 May 2017 18:22

As we've all come to the same conclusion, the only thing we can suggest with any certainty is that her mother was Jessie Demment who went on to marry Arthur Henry Cansdale.
He may or may not have been her biolgical father.

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 May 2017 18:24

Perhaps(step?) father Arthur 1911 with his parents.

Married 4 years

Name: Arthur Cansdale
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Layer de la Haye, Essex
Civil Parish: Layer de la Hay
Search Photos: Search for 'Layer de la Hay' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: Layer De Le Haye Nr Colchester, Essex
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration district: Lexden
Registration District Number: 199
Sub-registration district: Wivenhoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 35
Piece: 10329
Household Members:
Name Age
James Cansdale 62
Emma Cansdale 62
>>>>Arthur Cansdale 35

Andy

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 May 2017 18:27

Despite being assigned a masculine gender (no image) Jessie Demment's baptism? (Findmypast)

Jessie
Last name Demment
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1872
Baptism date 12 May 1872
Residence Layer-de-la-Hay, Essex, England
Place Layer-De-La-Hay
County Essex
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Demment
Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann
Mother's last name Demment
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 May 2017 18:32

Jessie's death
JESSIE
Last name CANSDALE
Gender Unknown
Birth year 1872
Age 84
Death quarter 2
Death year 1956
District Colchester
County Essex
Volume 4A
Page 513

Jessie
Last name Cansdale
Sex Unknown
Church St John the Baptist
Denomination Anglican
Death year 1956
Place Layer-De-La-Haye
County Essex
Country England
Memorial inscription reference 480
Record set Essex Memorial Inscriptions

It might be worth looking on SEAX to see if the church burial registers are online - they do have an access fee.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 May 2017 18:36

Step father's burial

Arthur Henry
Last name Cansdale
Sex Male
Church St John the Baptist
Denomination Anglican
Death year 1916
Place Layer-De-La-Haye
County Essex
Country England
Memorial inscription reference 480
Record set Essex Memorial Inscriptions

Arthur is living with his parents in 1911
Edit - sorry, already posted but will leave as its a different layout

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Layer de Lane Haye, Layor de la Haye, Essex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
James Cansdale Head Married Male Farm Labourer 62 1849 Layer de la Haye Essex
Emma Cansdale Wife Married Female - 62 1849 Layer de la Haye Essex
Arthur Cansdale Son Married Male Farm Labourer 35 1876 Layer de la Haye Essex

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 May 2017 18:46

Death for brother Leonard

Name: Leonard Arthur Cansdale
Birth Date: 12 Nov 1906
Date of Registration: Feb 1984
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 2176

and sister Bessie

Name: Bessie Cansdale
Birth Date: 14 Oct 1909
Date of Registration: Jan 1997
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Register Number: D75C
District and Subdistrict: 4691D
Entry Number: 292

Looks like none of them ever married.

Andy