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Re Violet Jackson, born 1928.

I won't post the records, in case she's still alive.
Her birth record, mentioned by Sylvia, gives her middle initial as D.

She married Albert S Martin in Bury St Edmunds in 2nd qr 1944.

FreeBMD shows the birth of a possible son in Bury St Edmunds in 3rd qr 1944.


EDIT:

She remarried in 1976 in Lewisham, to a Flanagan.

192.com shows her and her husband at 3 different addresses (I don't have credits to see exactly where) in 2002, 2003, and 2004-9. At one address there's also a son with surname Martin, who was born in Bermondsey in 1951.

Hi Pat .............

I've used Ancestry and FindMyPast, as well as the free sites

www.freebmd.org.uk

and

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

You have to register with the GRO site, but it is free

thank you very much for the information. what sites do you find it on. I am on ancestry and have some of the info but not as much detail that you seem to be getting.

Ok ... so the missing child from Rosa Annie's marriage is Violet Jackson

Found by finding the report of Christine's marriage!!

PAKENHAM.
Douglas (Pakenham), between Miss Christine Jackson eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. P. Jackson, of Pakenham, and Bombardier Kenneth Byham, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs A. Byham, of Church Row, Sudbury. The bride was given away her father, and Mr. Ronald Byham
4 October 1941 - Bury Free Press - Bury St Edmunds,

full report copied from image ..........

Pakenham

The wedding was solemnized at St Mary's Church b ythe Rev G.C.A Stevens (Redgrave) assisted by the Rev. M.S Douglas (Pakenham) between Miss Christine Jackson, eldest daughter or Mr and Mrs F. Jackson, of Pakenham and Bombardier Kenneth Byham, eldest son of Mr and Mrs A. Byham, of Church Row, Sudbury. The bride was given away by her father, and Mr Ronald Byham (brother of the bridegroom) was best man. The bride was attired in a blue dress, with blue hat to match, and was attended by two bridesmaids, Miss Violet Jackson (sister of the bride) and Miss Phyllis Byham (sister of the bridegroom). She carried a bouquet of variegated peach carnations, and the bridesmaids' bouquets were of dark red rosebuds. The bridesmaids wore clover dresses and silver and blue headbands. The happy couple were the recipients of many useful presents.


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Violet was born in 1928, and I cannot find a certain marriage or death for her. I have checked the original of the registration and it is mmn Burlingham.

Christine B Jackson married Kenneth A W Byham in 1941

Marriages Sep 1941 (>99%)
Byham Kenneth A W Jackson Bury St.E. 4a 3307
Jackson Christine B Byham Bury St.E. 4a 3307


There are possibly 4 births to the marriage, and all possibly still alive ....................

I will not post them, but you can find them yourself on the following free site .....

go to www.freebmd.org.uk

click on Search

Click on Births

Enter father's surname and mother's maiden name as indicated

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Kenneth A W Byham died in 1983 ........

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Kenneth Arthur W Byham
Birth Date: 29 Nov 1919
Date of Registration: Sep 1983
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Bury St edmunds
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 10
Page: 2079


Christine Betty Byham died in March quarter 2007 ......

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Christine Betty Byham
Birth Date: 19 Dec 1922
Date of Registration: Mar 2007
Age at Death: 85
Registration district: Bury St ed
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: -1
Page: -1
Register Number: C38D
District and Subdistrict: 742/1C
Entry Number: 254


Probate record for Kenneth Byham ..........

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995

Name: Kenneth Arthur William Byham
Death Date: 13 Jul 1983
Death Place: Sudbury Suffolk
Probate Date: 5 Jul 1984
Registry: Ipswich

from image:-

of 54 Uplands Rd, Woodhall Est, Sudbury, Suffolk, died 13 July 1983. Administration granted 5 July 1984. Not exceeding £40,000

Rosa Annie died in 1972 ......

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007

Name Rosa Annie Jackson
Birth Date 3 Jun 1899
Date of Registration Sep 1972
Age at Death 73
Registration district Bury St edmunds
Inferred County Suffolk
Volume 4b
Page 2589

To make contact with someone belonging to the family, you have to search yourself ........ there is little chance that someone will just happen on this post.

Go to Search in the top right

Click on Search All Member Trees

Enter the name(s) as instructed.

If any member does have Rosa's family in their tree, a list will appear, and you can then make contact with that member through GR's private messaging system ...... we call it sending a pm..

just click on the member's name and say how you think you might be connected.

These seem to be all the children of Rosa's marriage to Frederick Jackson, but their records are all open on the 1939 Register that safc posted at 22:58 on April 29 .......... that indicates that all 3 are dead

Births Mar 1923 (>99%)
Jackson Christine B Burlingham Stow S. 4a 1660

Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
Jackson Edward M Burlingham Kingston 2a 744

Births Sep 1926 (>99%)
Jackson Geoffrey C Burlingham Hartismere 4a 1564


HOWEVER there is also 1 closed record on that 1939 Register, which indicates that the person is believed to be still alive.

I do not know who that person might be .... a family tree on Ancestry shows a 4th child listed as Private (ie, still alive), but I cannot find the birth registration!



The Jacksons live in Hepworth House Cottage, and therefore it looks as though Frederick is Gardener to Sir Henry T. Methold who lives at Hepworth House

Actually ..

I'm not sure that you will be able to find out which farm that George Burlingham was working in 1881 .... he's living in a cottage on a street in the village, not on the farm

Daughter Eliza on the 1881 is noted as being an Imbecile from Birth


1871 Census

Name Age
George Burlingham 36 Horse Driver
Mary A Burlingham 36
Mary A Burlingham 9
Elizah Burlingham 5 Dum (??) from Birth
Jane Burlingham 2
Alias Burlingham 5 Month

Address:- Walsham Road

so no means of telling who he was working for

National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914

First name(s) Rosa Annie
Last name Burlingham
Birth year 1899
Birth date 03 Jun 1899
Event year 1905
School name Wattisfield Parochial/Voluntary School
Town Wattisfield
County Suffolk
Country England
Parent name(s) John W Burlingham
Book type Admissions
Archive reference ADB554/2/1
Folio / page no. -
Archive Suffolk Record Office, Bury St Edmunds
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
Category Education & work
Subcategory Schools & education
Collections from United Kingdom

from image:-

Started school:- 08-05-1905
Address:- Pottery Hill
Date of Birth:- 03-06-1899
Withdrawn from school:- 06-12-1912
Reason:- Work at Home

12 was the official school leaving age in 1912.



REMEMBER ............... England does dates in order of Day Month Year

do you have this??


National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914

First name(s) William Maurice
Last name Burlingham
Birth year 1906
Birth date 30 Oct 1906
Event year 1911
School name Wattisfield Parochial/Voluntary School
Town Wattisfield
County Suffolk
Country England
Parent name(s) Will Burlingham
Book type Admissions
Archive reference ADB554/2/1
Folio / page no. -
Archive Suffolk Record Office, Bury St Edmunds
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
Category Education & work
Subcategory Schools & education
Collections from United Kingdom

from image:-

Started school:- 24-04-1911
Address:- Rickinghall Road
Date of Birth:- 30-10-1906
Last Date of Attending This School:- 05-08-1920
Withdrawn from School:- 05-08-1920
Reason for Withdrawal:- Work at Home


He was 14 ...... official school leaving age in the UK until after WW2

so what does it mean nunn, alice gertrude noble order?

It means Alice Gertrude Nunn, mother's maiden name was Noble

Order means nothing as posted ..................

on the site where that information was obtained, one can click on Order and be taken to the place where you can order the actual birth certificate.

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how do i find out where the farm was that my 2nd great grandfather was baliff for?

Look at the census!!!

Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911

First name(s) Rosa Annie
Last name Burlingham
Birth year 1899
Baptism year 1899
Baptism date 09 Jul 1899
Place Walsham-Le-Willows
Father's first name(s) John William
Mother's first name(s) Alice Gertrude
Relationship Dau Of
Parents John William & Alice Gertrude
County Suffolk
Country England
Source Suffolk Baptism Index (Part 1)
Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from United Kingdom

I am looking for some information on the family. william m burlingham was my grandfather. He passed away when i was 3 and no one in the famiy really has any information on Rosa and her family.

so what does it mean nunn, alice gertrude noble order?
how do i find out where the farm was that my 2nd great grandfather was baliff for?

I am also hoping to make contact with someone from rosa's family

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This looks like Probate for the John W Burlingham whose death registration was posted by both ArgyllGran and Malyon

recap of death registration ...........

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: John W Burlingham
Birth Date: abt 1878
Date of Registration: Jun 1936
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Bury St edmunds
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 1030


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995

Name: John William Burlingham
Death Date: 20 May 1936
Death Place: Suffolk, England
Probate Date: 1 Sep 1936
Registry: Norwich

from image:-

of Bury Road, Wattisfield, Suffolk died 10 May 1936. Probate [granted] 1 September 1936 to Herbert Gordon Murray, Co-operative Society Manager.
Effects £189 4s 1d


IF so ....... I wonder if Herbert Murray is related or just a local "worthy"??

1871 Census

Name: George Burlingham
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Burlingham
Gender: Male
Where born: Wattisfield, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Wattisfield
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Stow
Sub-registration district: Walsham le Willows
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 9
Piece: 1731
Folio: 154
Page Number: 2

George Burlingham 36
Mary A Burlingham 36
Mary A Burlingham 9
Elizah Burlingham 5
Jane Burlingham 2
Alias Burlingham 5 Months


BURLINGHAM, MARY ANN mmn CLAYDEN
GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in STOW Volume 04A Page 475

BULLINGHAM, JANE mmn CLAYDON
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in STOW Volume 04A Page 546

BULLINGHAM, GEORGE mmn CLAYDON
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in STOW Volume 04A Page 534

BULLINGHAM, JOHN WILLIAM mmn CLAYDON
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in STOW Volume 04A Page 550

?????????????

1881 Census

Name: John W. Burlingham
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: George Burlingham
Mother: Mary Ann Burlingham
Gender: Male
Where born: Wattisfield, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Wattisfield
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address: Hill Green

Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Stow
ED, institution, or vessel: 14

Piece: 1847
Folio: 155
Page Number: 3

George Burlingham 46 b.ca 1835, Wattisfield, Farm Bailiff
Mary Ann Burlingham 45 b.ca 1836, Wattisfield, Farm Bailiff Wife
Eliza Burlingham 15 b.ca 1866, Wattisfield
Alice Burlingham 11 b.ca 1870, Wattisfield, Scholar
George Burlingham 7 b.ca 1874, Wattisfield, Scholar
John W. Burlingham 4


Possible marriage of parents ...........

Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
Burlingham George Stow 4a 1010
Claydon Mary Ann Stow 4a 1010

????

NUNN, ALICE GERTRUDE NOBLE Order
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in STOW Volume 04A Page 536

if he is john William burlingham could be his death

John W Burlingham
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
birth:
1878

death:
1936
Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England

???

William Burlingham
in the Canada, Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: William Burlingham
Death Date: 1973
Death Place: Ontario, Canada
Cemetery: Roy's Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Fullarton, Perth County, Ontario, Canada
Has Bio?: N
spouse: Mildred Marie Henderson, Burlingham ( - 2011)


???

William Burlingham
in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: William Burlingham
Occupation: Retired
Year: 1972
Location: Perth; Wilmot, Ontario, Canada
Electoral District: Perth-Wilmot

Living with Mrs Burlingham, in Mitchell polling district.