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Charles Burrough in 1851 and 1861 please

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Teresa

Teresa Report 29 Apr 2017 09:04

Hi can anyone look up the above for me please, I have him in 1871 onwards but would like to see if he is with parents and siblings before his marriage in 1868. In 1871 he was 24 yrs old, it said born Yapton, Staffs, a forgeman, with wife Charlotte 22, and baby Harriett 1yr. Attercliffe, Yorkshire. Thank-you Teresa.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Apr 2017 09:17

Do you know who his parents were

Have you his marriage cert for his father's name . Sometimes too witmesss were family which may help identify the right family

Marriages Dec 1868
Burrough Charles Rotherham 9c 702
Guest Charlotte Rotherham 9c 702

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Apr 2017 09:19

Says on the 1871 census he was born Staffordshire

You really need to know who his dad was


Maybe
1861 census
William Burrough Head Married Male 55 1806 Furnace Man London, Middlesex, England
Ann Burrough Wife Married Female 54 1807 Furnace Mans Wife West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
William Burrough Son Unmarried Male 26 1835 Forgeman Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Edward Burrough Son Unmarried Male 23 1838 Forgeman Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Charles Burrough Son Unmarried Male 14 1847 Labourer West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Edah Burrough Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1848 - West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Joseph Burrough Son - Male 12 1849 - West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Teresa

Teresa Report 29 Apr 2017 09:29

Thank-you for looking, I do not have any information other than what i have put up at the moment

Dea

Dea Report 29 Apr 2017 09:41

Charles on 1871:

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street Shaws Buildings, Attercliffe cum Darnall, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Burrough Head - Male 24 1847 - Staffordshire, England
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Charlotte Burrough Wife - Female 22 1849 - Yorkshire, England
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Harriet Burrough Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Yorkshire, England


This looks like his brother Joseph from Shirley's 1861 census posted above??

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Amberley Street, Attercliffe cum Darnall, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Nicklin Head - Male 26 1845 - Staffordshire, England
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Elizabeth Nicklin Wife - Female 27 1844 - Shropshire, England
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Amy Nicklin Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Staffordshire, England
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Hannah Nicklin Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Staffordshire, England
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John T Nicklin Son - Male 1 1870 - Staffordshire, England
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Joseph Burrough Boarder - Male 21 1850 - Staffordshire, England (West Bromwich)

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Apr 2017 09:47

As you don't have any other info you really need to get his marriage certificate for his dads name

He doesn't have a unique name to positively identity his birth family without further info

Dea

Dea Report 29 Apr 2017 09:54

I am puzzled as to why I can't find any birth reg.'s for any of the children on Shirley's 1861 census??? I have tried phonetic searches......

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Apr 2017 09:56

Maybe they didn't register them .Dea

I have looked on the gro site for the birth of the daughter Harriet with varous spellings but nothing comes up for her either

Dea

Dea Report 29 Apr 2017 10:24

I had trouble too Shirley but eventually found her:


Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BROUGH, HARRIET GUEST Order
GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 459

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Apr 2017 10:44

thats a good find Dea i tried the phonetically search etc but it didnt come up

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Apr 2017 11:01

In 1841 each member of the family is transcribed separately on Ancestry, not as a family, though they're clearly a family on the image. Living in Sedgley, Staffs.

William, 32, shoemaker;
Ann, 30
Mary Ann, 8
William, 4
Edward, 2
Ester, 4 months (image just says 4, but it will mean 4 months)

Ester will be the child transcribed as Eadah in 1851 and 1861.

Here's her baptism, on FS, though I don't see her birth record so far:

England Births and Christenings
Name Esther Burrough
Gender Female
Christening Date 31 Jan 1841
Christening Place St. Leonard's, Bilston, Stafford, England
Father's Name William Burrough
Mother's Name Anne Burrough


Probably Edward's baptism:


Edward Burrows
England Births and Christenings
Name Edward Burrows
Gender Male
Christening Date 12 Aug 1838
Christening Place Bilston, Stafford, England
Father's Name William Burrows
Mother's Name Anne


Mary Ann:


Mary Anne Burrows
England Births and Christenings
Name Mary Anne Burrows
Gender Female
Christening Date 15 Jan 1832
Christening Place St. Leonard's, Bilston, Stafford, England
Father's Name William Burrows
Mother's Name Anne Burrows


And possibly an earlier child of the same name, presumably died in infancy:


Mary Burrough Or Burrows
England Births and Christenings
Name Mary Burrough Or Burrows
Gender Female
Christening Date 27 Nov 1830
Christening Place St. Leonard's, Bilston, Stafford, England
Father's Name William Burrough Or Burrows
Mother's Name Anne Burrough Or Burrows

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Apr 2017 11:03

And William:

William Burrough
England Births and Christenings
Name William Burrough
Gender Male
Christening Date 20 Mar 1836
Christening Place St Leonard's, Stafford, England
Father's Name William Burrough
Mother's Name Anne


EDIT:

There also seems to have been a son John:


John Burrough
England Births and Christenings
Name John Burrough
Gender Male
Christening Date 04 Jan 1835
Christening Place St. Leonard's, Bilston, Stafford, England
Father's Name William Burrough
Mother's Name Anne Burrough

Dea

Dea Report 29 Apr 2017 12:42

Now we are getting somewhere!!

This would be Esther:


Births Mar 1841 (>99%)
Burrows Esther Dudley 18 314


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BURROWS, ESTHER DAVIES Order
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 314

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malyon

malyon Report 29 Apr 2017 13:37

this be Charles if born 1847 in 1851 census

Charles Burrough
England and Wales Census, 1851
Name
Charles Burrough
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1851
Event Place
Hamlet Of Hanham, Somerset, England
Registration District
Keynsham
Gender
Male
Age
4
Occupation
Visitor
Relationship to Head of Household
Nephew
Birth Year (Estimated)
1847
Birthplace
,
Page Number
2
Registration Number
HO107
Piece/Folio
1944 / 137
Affiliate Record Type
Household
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
John Jubilee Whittuck
Head
M
42
Hanham, Gloucestershire
Sarah Whittuck
Wife
F
28
, Warwickshire
Charles Burrough xxxxx
Nephew
M
4
,
Henry Goodenough
Servant
M
21
Hanham, Gloucestershire
Ann Davis
Servant
F
27
, Brecon
Sarah Border
Servant
F
28
Dawlish, Devonshire
Elizabeth Border
Servant
F
36
Dawlish, Devonshire

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Apr 2017 14:13

If Dea has posted the correct birth record for Esther, then this may be her parents' marriage - from FS:


William Burrows
mentioned in the record of William Burrows and Ann Davis
Name William Burrows
Spouse's Name Ann Davis
Event Date 24 Sep 1827
Event Place Saint Peter Or Collegiate,Wolverhampton,Stafford,England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Apr 2017 14:27

OK - so here's Edward's birth ??:

BURROWS, EDWARD mms DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1838 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 289

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Apr 2017 14:30

Maybe this is "Edah" - whom I had at first thought was the same child as Esther:

BURROW, EDITH mms DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 309

EDIT:

In which case, Esther may have died, as she doesn't appear after 1841 census.
One of these deaths ?

Deaths Mar 1843 (>99%)
BURROWS Esther Dudley 18 244

Deaths Jun 1843 (>99%)
BURROWS Esther Dudley 18 227

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Apr 2017 14:44

Another child ??

BURROWS, HANNAH mms DAVIS
GRO Reference: 1853 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 138


???
Deaths Jun 1854 (>99%)
Burrows Hannah Dudley 6c 34
Burrows Hannah Dudley 6c 40

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Apr 2017 14:55

Possibly Ann's death:

Deaths Dec 1866 (>99%)
Burrough Ann 60 W. Bromwich 6b 439

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Apr 2017 15:08

Possibilities for William's (senior) death - his YOB varies a lot through the censuses:

Deaths Mar 1873 (>99%)
Burrows William 76 Wolverhampton 6b 376

Deaths Dec 1862 (>99%)
BURROWS William Wolverhampton 6b 318


Deaths Mar 1861 (>99%)
BURROWS William Wolverhampton 6b 339

Deaths Sep 1868 (>99%)
Burrough William 67 Sheffield 9c 357