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Christopher
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23 Apr 2017 12:15 |
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I wonder whether anyone can help
I was trying to track back the matriarchal line before Emily Jane Cock (1859). With your help I have got back to Betsy (born 1793) married name Green.
Can I go further back with your help.
Angela Wilcox (1925)
Mother Florence G Smith (c 1900)
(sisters Ruth A 1886, Constance 1890)
Mother Emily Jane Cock (1859)(married Isaac b 1860)
(siblings John 1846, Daniel 1848, Anne Marie 1855, Dinah 1858, Isaac 1845)
Mother Sarah Green (1819) (married Charles Cock b 1819 also)
Her mother was Betsy (maiden name unknown) (1793) (married Isaac Green b 1793 also)
So you have mother (angela), grandmother (florence gertrude), great-gm (emily jane), great great (sarah) and great great great grandmother (betsy)
I have got stuck. Can't find Betsy's maiden name or marital record to Isaac Green in/around Essex sometime before 1819 when Sarah born.
Dear experts - is this as far back as I can go with Genes reunited, or is there a trick.
If anyone has Betsy in their tree, could you kindly connect with me.
Thanks so much
Chris
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23 Apr 2017 12:39 |
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Where was Gertrude born, not seeing a birth with mmn Cock so maybe Emily had been married previously?
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23 Apr 2017 12:40 |
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Emily Jane Cock
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name
Emily Jane Cock
Event Type
Marriage
Registration Quarter
Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year
1885
Registration District
Lexden
County
Essex
Event Place
Lexden, Essex, England
Volume
4A
Page
459
Line Number
22
Emily Jane Cock probably married one of the following people
Name
Robert Hugh Barrell
Name
Isaac Smith
Name
Esther Jane Wade
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23 Apr 2017 12:42 |
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Emily Jane Cock
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name
Emily Jane Cock
Event Type
Birth Registration
Registration Quarter
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year
1859
Registration District
Lexden
County
Essex
Event Place
Lexden, Essex, England
Volume
4A
Page
248
Line Number
5
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23 Apr 2017 12:43 |
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Emily J Smith
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name
Emily J Smith
Event Type
Census
Event Date
31 Mar 1901
Event Place
Halifax, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
County
Yorkshire (West Riding)
Civil Parish
Halifax
Ecclesiastical Parish
Halifax St John The Baptist
Sub-District
Halifax
Registration District
Halifax
Residence Note
Heath View Street
Gender
Female
Age
41
Relationship to Head of Household
Wife
Birth Year (Estimated)
1860
Birthplace
Mersea, Essex
Schedule Type
166
Page Number
23
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Isaac Smith
Head
M
41
Halifax, Yorkshire
Emily J Smith
Wife
F
41
Mersea, Essex
Ruth A Smith
Daughter
F
15
Halifax, Yorkshire
Florence G Smith
Daughter
F
1
Halifax, Yorkshire
Helen Stubbins
Servant
F
25
Welbeck, Nottinghamshire
Ann Town
Servant
F
55
Barrowden, Rutland
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23 Apr 2017 12:47 |
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So she was actually Florence Gertrude, born in Halifax.
The birth posted by Malyon, showing mmn
COCK, EMILY JANE GREEN Order
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in LEXDEN & WINSTREE Volume 04A Page 248
And possible marriage for parents:
Marriages Dec 1843 (>99%)
Cant Zacharias Lexden 12 275 Scan available - click to view
Cock Charles Lexden &c 12 275 Scan available - click to viewAdditional information available - click to view <<<<<<
Green Sarah Lexden 12 275 Scan available - click to view <<<<<<
LAPPAGE Mary Ann Lexden etc 12 275 Scan available - click to viewAdditional information available - click to view
Scott Benjamin Lexden 12 275 Scan available - click to view
Thornton Samuel Lexden 12 275 Scan available - click to view
Thorrington Samuel Lexden 12 275 Scan available - click to view
WOODWARD Maria Lexden &c 12 275 Scan available - click to view
WRIGHT Susanna Lexden &c 12 275 Scan available - click to view
WRIGHT Susannah Lexden &c 12 275
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MargaretM
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23 Apr 2017 13:02 |
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Father, a widower, was a farmer of 153? acres employing 6 men & 4 boys. He was also an independent minister.
Emily J Cock
in the 1881 England Census
Name:
Emily J Cock
Age:
21
Estimated birth year:
abt 1860
Relationship to Head:
Daughter
Father:
Charles Cock
Gender:
Female
Where born:
West Mersea, Essex, England
Civil Parish:
West Mersea
County/Island:
Essex
Country:
England
Street address:
Lakeys Hall
Household Members:
Charles Cock 70
Emily J Cock 21
Laura J. Fisher 18 , servant
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23 Apr 2017 13:11 |
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Emily Janes Cock
in the 1861 England Census
Name:
Emily Janes Cock
Age:
1
Estimated birth year:
1860
Relation:
Daughter
Father's name:
Charles Cock
Mother's name:
Sarah Cock
Gender:
Female
Where born:
West Mersea, Essex, England
Civil Parish:
West Mersea
Ecclesiastical parish:
Rochester
County/Island:
Essex
Country:
England
Household Members:
Charles Cock 48
Sarah Cock 42
Isaac Cock 16
John R Cock 15
Daniel Rehebson Cock 13
Annie Maria Cock 6
Dinah Cock 3
Emily Janes Cock 1
Ellen Green 26
Eliza Nicholls 16
Caroline Mc Pullen 16
Last 3 names are servants.
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23 Apr 2017 13:13 |
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1851 consus - last 2 are servants
Name Charles Cock
Event Type Census
Event Date 1851
Event Place West Mersea, Essex, England
Registration District Lexden
Gender Male
Age 39
Marital Status Married
Occupation Farmer 167 Acres Employ 10 Labourers
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1812
Birthplace Totham, Essex
Page Number 11
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1782 / 244
Affiliate Record Type Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Charles Cock Head M 39 Totham, Essex
Sarah Cock Wife F 32 Fordham, Essex
Isaac Cock Son M 6 West Mersea, Essex
John R Cock Son M 5 West Mersea, Essex
Daniel R Cock Son M 3 West Mersea, Essex
Harriot Underwood Servant F 18 West Mersea, Essex
Ellen Green Servant F 15 West Mersea, Essex
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23 Apr 2017 13:20 |
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SMITH, FLORENCE GERTRUDE
COCK
GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 09A Page 411
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23 Apr 2017 13:24 |
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Name
Florence G Smith
Event Type
Census
Event Date
31 Mar 1901
Event Place
Halifax, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
County
Yorkshire (West Riding)
Civil Parish
Halifax
Ecclesiastical Parish
Halifax St John The Baptist
Sub-District
Halifax
Registration District
Halifax
Residence Note
Heath View Street
Gender
Female
Age
1
Relationship to Head of Household
Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated)
1900
Birthplace
Halifax, Yorkshire
Schedule Type
166
Page Number
23
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Isaac Smith
Head
M
41
Halifax, Yorkshire
Emily J Smith xxxxx
Wife
F
41
Mersea, Essex xxxxx
Ruth A Smith
Daughter
F
15
Halifax, Yorkshire
Florence G Smith
Daughter
F
1
Halifax, Yorkshire
Helen Stubbins
Servant
F
25
Welbeck, Nottinghamshire
Ann Town
Servant
F
55
Barrowden, Rutland
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23 Apr 2017 13:25 |
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Probate of Charles:
Charles Cock
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name:
Charles Cock
Death Date:
14 Aug 1896
Death Place:
Essex, England
Probate Date:
1 Oct 1896
Registry:
London, England
It reads:
COCK, Charles of Leakies Farm, West Mersea, Essex, farmer died 14 August 1896. Probate London 1 October to Isaac Cock and Daniel Rehobcam Cock, farmers. Effects £566 1s.
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23 Apr 2017 14:45 |
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SMITH, SAMUEL GORDON
COCK
GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 09A Page 425
SMITH, EDWARD
COCK
GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 09A Page 416
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23 Apr 2017 14:47 |
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SMITH, MABEL KATHLEEN
COCK
GRO Reference: 1896 M Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 09A Page 379
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23 Apr 2017 15:00 |
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Mother's Maiden Surname:
SMITH, EDITH MARGARET
COCK
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 09A Page 452
Deaths Jun 1893 (>99%)
Smith
Edith Margaret
2
Halifax
9a
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malyon
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23 Apr 2017 15:09 |
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census 1911 says 7 children born 4 died 3 living
ruth a 1886
Florence g 1900
constance m 1901
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Christopher
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24 Apr 2017 10:39 |
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Wow - thank you for all this.
I have some more information from my 90yr old mother-in-law
I will go through all your notes and this new information this evening
Thank you for digging
Chris
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Christopher
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24 Apr 2017 21:57 |
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Just an enormous thank you to you all.
You have unlocked enough for me to go back to mid 1700s on the matriachal line
Thank you
Chris
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Christopher
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24 Apr 2017 22:27 |
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With your help I have now got a mother line as follows:
Angela Wilcox (1925)
Mother Florence G Smith (c 1900)
(sisters Ruth A 1886, Constance 1890)
Mother Emily Jane Cock (1859)(married Isaac b 1860)
(siblings John 1846, Daniel 1848, Anne Marie 1855, Dinah 1858, Isaac 1845)
Mother Sarah Green (1819) (married Charles Cock b 1819 also)
Her mother was Betsy (maiden name unknown) (1793) (married Isaac Green b 1793 also)
So you have mother (angela), grandmother (florence gertrude), great-gm (emily jane), great great (sarah) and great great great grandmother (betsy)
I have got stuck. Can't find Betsy's maiden name or marital record to Isaac Green in/around Essex sometime before 1819 when Sarah born.
Dear experts - is this as far back as I can go with Genes reunited, or is there a trick.
Thanks
Chris
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24 Apr 2017 23:06 |
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Isaac Green
England and Wales Census, 1851
Name
Isaac Green
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1851
Event Place
Fordham, Essex, England
Registration District
Lexden
Gender
Male
Age
58
Marital Status
Married
Occupation
Farmer
Relationship to Head of Household
Head
Birth Year (Estimated)
1793
Birthplace
Fordham, Essex
Page Number
13
Registration Number
HO107
Piece/Folio
1782 / 615
Affiliate Record Type
Household
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Isaac Green
Head
M
58
Fordham, Essex
Betsey Green
Wife
F
57
West Mersea,
William Green
Son
M
17
Fordham,
Mary An Blakely
House Keeper
F
45
Mundon,
Harriott Clark
Servant
F
30
Little Horkseley,
Betsey Woodward
Servant
F
19
Fordham,
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