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Linda
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18 Apr 2017 18:54 |
Help please! Unable to trace info past 1881 for Walter David Hitchin born 1859 in Coventry to David Hitchin and Sarah (nee Mills Russell) who were Watchmakers of 155 Spon Street. Walter was a gold case watchmaker in 1881 census.
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Mary
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18 Apr 2017 19:26 |
W D Hitchin sailed on ship Aurania to Chicago arrived 23/7/1888 married Sarah Small 24/9/1896 in Chicago.
1900 census Manhatton New York Walter D Hitchin born England Jan 1859 so that fits. He was a Map Mounter. Sarah Hitchin
Maybe this is your Walter ?
Maryb.
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Linda
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18 Apr 2017 19:39 |
Hi Mary, Thanks for that info, maybe that's why we cannot find any more info on him in England. Not sure how we can verify if this is him but it does seem to fit as he was baptised in February 1859.
Linda H
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Mary
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18 Apr 2017 19:51 |
If it was him,then in 1910 he wasn't with his wife. She was with her mum Mary Small and siblings along with her son Robert k Hitchin 1903-1978.
There is info on Ancestry about Robert and where he is buried. it also shows photos of him in later years.
If you google Robert k Hitchin from USA Scroll down 1st page to My Family My People it takes you to www.findagrave.com.
Maryb.
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18 Apr 2017 19:58 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 155, Spon Street, Coventry St Michael with St John, Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John W Ward Head Married Male 32 1849 Watch Work Shop Coventry, Warwickshire, England Transcription Sarah M Ward Wife Married Female 46 1835 Shop Woman (Watch) Coventry, Warwickshire, England Transcription Walter D Hitchens Son In Law Single Male 22 1859 Gold Case Maker (Watch) Coventry, Warwickshire, England Transcription Flora P Hitchens Daughter In Law Single Female 18 1863 Shop Woman (Watch) Coventry, Warwickshire, England Transcription Herbert J Ward Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Coventry, Warwickshire, England Transcription Elizabeth Russell Mother In Law Widow Female 66 1815 - Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England Transcription Elizabeth Louk Servant Single Female 21 1860 Domestic Servant Coventry, Warwickshire, England
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Linda
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18 Apr 2017 19:59 |
Oh :-0 Maybe he had passed over... Thank you again for this information, it is really helpful and maybe on the photo of Robert there will be a family resemblance, will see if we can access it.
Linda H
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Linda
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18 Apr 2017 20:07 |
Hi Abby, Thank you for that info from 1881 census which we do have. David Hitchin died and Sarah remarried John Ward. Still trying to trace David Hitchin cause of death as only 32 but have sent off for death certificate in hope!
Linda H
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18 Apr 2017 20:39 |
New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image First name(s) W D Last name Hitchins Sex Male Age 29 Birth year 1859 Arrival year 1888 Arrival city New York City Arrival state New York Arrival country United States Ship name Circassia Country United States Film number 001027759 NARA roll number 523 NARA publication number M237 Record set New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals Category Travel & migration Subcategory Passenger lists Collections from United States & Canada
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Linda
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19 Apr 2017 19:05 |
Thank you Abby for info, its more confusing now as that's 2 W D Hitchin's migrated the same time but on different ships! Though yours is spelt differently we do know that mistakes can be made with spellings. Will also chase this information in the hope of finding him if no results from the info Mary sent.
Linda H
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SylviaInCanada
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20 Apr 2017 01:39 |
Robert K Hitchin's burial place can be found at Find A Grave .. and there are several photos, but no family history (such as names of parents or siblings).
https://www.findagrave.com
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JoonieCloonie
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20 Apr 2017 02:00 |
it's so easy to give the URL for newbies to sites! (I'm an old findagrave hand)
Robert K Hitchin https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=146673700
with photos and link to wife
The memorial was created by one person and is maintained by another, which means the person who now maintains it is a direct descendant (or a very close relation)
Her page is:
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=mr&MRid=47712713
and she sounds like she would be thrilled to meet family
Her email address is on her page so you don't even have to register at the site to contact her.
edit - her husband Mike was Robert's grandson, she describes the family here on her husband's memorial page:
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=42488518&
1940 census
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KW2T-PXJ
Robert R Hitchin Head M 38 Ohio Romola P Hitchin Wife F 38 Ohio Sidney A Hitchin Son M 18 Florida * Wanda E Hitchin Daughter F 16 Florida Myra L Hitchin Daughter F 14 Florida
* mother of Mike
Walter's wife Sarah Small is also buried in Ohio but there are no family connections and the person who created the memorial is not related.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=32713561&
I have submitted an edit to connect Robert's page to his mother Sarah's.
When Sarah died in 1941 in Ohio she was recorded as widowed:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X8ST-XLN
In 1920 Sarah is recorded as divorced
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDRC-S5L
so I wonder whether this might be Walter in 1920, working in 'stencilling' not far from New York City
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4RY-PGG
Name Walter Hitchin Event Type Census Event Date 1920 Event Place Jersey City Ward 10, Hudson, New Jersey, United States Gender Male Age 60 Marital Status Married Relationship to Head of Household Lodger Birth Year (Estimated) 1860 Birthplace England Immigration Year 1886 Father's Birthplace England Mother's Birthplace England
and Walter in 1910 (the alternate spelling was not submitted by an Ancestry user)
Name: Walter D Hilchin [Walter D Hitchin] Age in 1910: 51 Birth Year: abt 1859 Birthplace: England Home in 1910: Bronx Assembly District 33, New York, New York Street: Tinton Ave Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1890 Relation to Head of House: Boarder Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Native Tongue: English * Occupation: Gardener * Industry: Florist Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner Naturalization Status: Papers
* mistranscribed: it actually says Watchman, Building industry
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20 Apr 2017 09:06 |
Coventry Herald - Friday 20 November 1863
MRS Hitchin (Widow of the late David Hitchin), begs to acknowledge her grateful sense of the respectful regard and esteem shown by the Officers and Members of the Coventry Volunteer Rifle Corps towards her late Husband, by so spontaneously attending with their band at his funeral- a tribute of respect which will ever be held by her in grateful remembrance.
155 Spon Street, Coventry November 19 1863 ------------------------------------------------
There are quite a few articles- one obituary describes the band marching through the streets accompanying him to the graveside.
Unfortunately none seem to give cause of death.
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Mary
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20 Apr 2017 09:47 |
?? Walter B Hitchin age 62 Born @ 1859 Buried 21/1/1921 Jersey City heights New Jersey USA
Maryb.
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JoonieCloonie
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20 Apr 2017 16:27 |
Mary could you give your sources for things like that death?
... Okay, I found it at Ancestry. I wondered whether the image might give cause of death, but no. It does say Walter B, aged 62, buried 21 Jan 1920. Walter David would have been 60, 61 later in 1920.
So that can't be the death of the Walter in the 1920 census!
Rather odd that there would be a Walter B and a Walter D almost the same age in Jersey City.
But I can't find a different Walter in US records to match.
Or a Walter B Hitch* born in England 1858-1861 in the births index.
No wait --
"The 1920 Census was begun on 1 January 1920."
So there's a good chance that is the same Walter.
Interesting info about the cemetery, at findagrave:
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=888907&CScn=jersey+city&CScntry=4&CSst=33&
I think there is every possibility that Walter did not have a headstone.
I do wonder whether "watchman" in the 1910 census was an error by his landlord or such, and he was really in watchmaking.
On the other hand, with him being estranged from his wife, the watchman occupation could suggest various things. They hit hard times and he had to go away in search of work. Or, and we have to remember that these things were not at all uncommon and we probably all have them in our tree, he had a problem like alcohol and could no longer hold a job in his occupation, and a watchman job suited.
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Mary
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20 Apr 2017 18:28 |
Glad you found it but it says Walter B Hitchin was buried 1921 not 1920.
Maryb
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JoonieCloonie
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20 Apr 2017 20:56 |
Oh oops, I was looking at the image itself. 1920 at the top of the page. Changes over to 1921 part-way down. Yes, he was buried January 1921.
After the 1920 census in any case. :-)
He would have been 62 later that year.
Hope Linda returns.
I really do think Walter's granddaughter-in-law would be very happy to hear that her stories of the family in the US have been found by Walter's family in England. (And also her husband has a son, Walter's great-grandson.)
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Linda
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20 Apr 2017 21:41 |
Wow, thanks everybody for searching. We have looked at Find a Grave site from Maryb's info and immediately sent an email to Romola, (Walter's granddaughter-in-law) unfortunately she has yet to reply :-( We are hoping she can confirm we have the correct Walter if she knows his family history from England.
Linda H
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JoonieCloonie
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20 Apr 2017 21:53 |
Romola was Walter's daughter-in-law, grandmother of the findagrave member's husband (and is deceased) but we know what you meant. :-)
Assuming that the Walter who married Sarah Small is the right Walter, it's a sure bet that this is the right family, since Sarah is also buried in Ohio. And he sure looks like the right Walter.
Good luck!
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Linda
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20 Apr 2017 22:33 |
Oops sorry, I meant emailed Deanna
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Linda
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21 Apr 2017 19:34 |
Contacted Deanna through Findagrave and sadly she knows nothing, her reply is below. Robert Hitchin was my late husbands grandfather. I know nothing of his family. Sorry I couldn't be of help. I wish you luck in your search.
Thank you all, in particular Mary and JoonieCloonie for the information you sent.
Linda H
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