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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 18 Mar 2017 00:00

It would be great if you could come back when you get that marriage certificate Bruce and update us. If it is your Tom, it may be worth buying Daisy's second marriage certificate to check if she is divorced or widowed. That would narrow the time scale for a possible death for Tom.

Bruce

Bruce Report 19 Mar 2017 17:51

I will come back when the certificate is received and let you know the result

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 19 Mar 2017 17:56

Thank you Bruce :-)

Bruce

Bruce Report 25 Mar 2017 15:14

Certificate obtained and confirms the marriage between Tom and Daisy Gertrude Darlow. They both gave an address in Luton. Witnesses were obviously related to Daisy. Searches have traced them to addresses in Grimsby up to 1932 but I need more time in the local library to search after that year. I have not yet come up with a death for Tom locally.

Bruce

Bruce Report 25 Mar 2017 17:20

Ruby Johnson was born in1923 and is the daughter of Tom and Daisy. Can anyone find her on the 1939 register please

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Mar 2017 22:20

Would Ruby not be one of the closed records in the same household as Daisy in 1939?

Remember records of people born less than 100 years ago are closed unless they are known to have died.

Bruce

Bruce Report 27 Mar 2017 14:57

Yes she would be one of the closed records. I had missed that there was two closed records mentioned earlier.

Bruce

Bruce Report 27 Apr 2017 20:03

Re the baptisms shown at St Martins on 27.9.1892. St Martin's church was not built at that stage. the 27th is the date of the baptism at St Paul's and it would appear that there has been a transcription error as he is unlikely to be two baptisms on two churches on the same day.

Bruce

Bruce Report 10 May 2020 20:03

Still trying to trace the death of Tom. Has anyone access to world wide Ancestry. Death shown in Alabama of a Tom Johnson wife Daisy. I have only access to UK records. Thanking in advance

Bruce

Bruce Report 10 May 2020 20:21

Forget that last request. Ancestry has electoral rolls for 1939 which show Tom alive in 1939 with his wife in Luton. She was at the same address in the 1939 register where she is shown as married.

Bruce

Bruce Report 27 May 2022 22:25

I am still trying to locate the death of Tom Johnson. I have now found a newspaper article dated 22 February 1946 which states that a decree was granted to his wife on grounds of his misconduct with Ethel Stiddulph. However I cannot find any records relating to Ethel. Can anyone assist please?

Bruce

Bruce Report 27 May 2022 22:42

I have now found the marriage and 1939 entry for ethel Stiddulph. It is Ethel Stidolph.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 May 2022 08:46

For our info - the divorce was in Linconshire:


DECREES NISI Lincolnshire Assize Petitions

... Haycroft Ave.. Grimsby). Daisy Gertrude Johnson, Green Lane, Spalding (misconduct of her husband Tom Johnson, with Ethe , Stiddulph). Janet Lawson Monk. Rauceby Road, Sleaford (misconduct of her, husband. Eric George Monk, with Joyce de Pass). Madge Olive ...
Published: Saturday 16 February 1946
Newspaper: Louth Standard
County: Lincolnshire, England

It's a pity it doesn't give an address for Tom at that time.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 May 2022 09:07

???

Deaths Mar 1963 (>99%)
JOHNSON TOM 70 BEDFORD 4A 37

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 May 2022 09:09

Possibly supporting above death, his marriage to Ethel was in Bedford reg district:

Tom Johnson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Tom Johnson
Registration Date: Jul 1946[Aug 1946] [Sep 1946]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Bedford
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Spouse: Ethel P Stidolph
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 177

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 May 2022 09:30

More convincingly to support the 1963-registered death:

Tom and Ethel on 1963 ER:

Tom Johnson
in the Bedfordshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1986
Name: Tom Johnson
Residence Year: 1963
Address: CLAPHAM ROAD 40i
Residence Place: Bedfordshire, England
Parliamentary Division: Bedfordshire


Ethel's there by herself in 1964:

Ethel P Johnson
in the Bedfordshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1986
Name: Ethel P Johnson
Residence Year: 1964
Address: CLAPHAM ROAD 40i
Residence Place: Bedfordshire, England
Parliamentary Division: Bedfordshire

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 May 2022 10:20

Ethel's at that address on the ER until 1977.

Deaths Mar 1977 (>99%)
JOHNSON ETHEL PHYLLIS A 18DE1890 BEDFORD 9 84


I wonder if she was also known just as Phyllis.

There's a Tom Johnson with a Phyllis Johnson at 36 St Leonards Avenue, Bedford from 1946 until 1962



Tom and Daisy G were at 6 Hazelbury Crescent in Luton on the 1939 ER - and that's Daisy's address on the 1939 Register, as already posted, though Tom's not with her then.

Posting again here for convenience:

Daisy J Johnson
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Daisy J Johnson [Daisy J Frorenzano] [Daisy J Schiwek]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 22 Jun 1899 [ maybe changed to 1897 - hard to tell ]
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 6
Residence Place: Luton, Bedfordshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 36
Schedule Number: 277
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: Dplt
Borough: Luton
Registration district: 178-2
Household Members Age
Daisy J Johnson 40
Edna Johnson 19
This record is officially closed.
George M P Johnson 29
This record is officially closed.

Bruce

Bruce Report 28 May 2022 19:01

Many thanks for your assistance. I had seen this but had put it to one side due to the slight age difference. I will apply for the death certificate to prove one way or another. Once again many thanks

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 May 2022 19:11

The age is correct.

If he was born in May 1892, then he was still only 70 in the Jan/Feb/Mar quarter of 1963

Bruce

Bruce Report 10 Jun 2022 19:12

Death certificate received. Proves to be the correct Tom.
Many thanks to all who have assisted particularly ArgyllGran.