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I have hit a bit of a brick wall trying to find my 2x and 3 x great grandfathers. My 2x great grandfather born c 1853 is George William Purssor on the marriage banns (25/12/1871 married to Mary Ann Naylor) and was living in Lambeth, London. On the 1881 and 1891 censuses he is shown as George Purser (with no middle name or initial). I am unable to find him in any other census. According to the censuses George was born in Southwark, Lambeth.
On George's marriage banns his father is shown as Jeremiah Purssor (deceased).
I am unable to find Jeremiah in any census at all.
I have found one birth for a George Purser on 10 January 1852 in the sub-district of South in the City of London. However, there is no middle name and his father his James Purser. I am not sure it is my George.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as I really have hit the brick wall!

Thanks.

Rob

Have you found his wife or their children (if any) on subsequent census?.

Can you post the 1891 census you consider to be them

For info......

George Purser in the 1881 England Census
Name: George Purser
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary Purser
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Southwark St George Martyr
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 2A Marshall St
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Shoemaker
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 529
Folio: 41
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
George Purser 28 Shoe Maker
Mary Purser 31
Willm.J. Purser 2
Robt.J. Purser 1


I deleted the 1891......i don't think that's him.

Name George William Purser
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1897
Registration District Lambeth
County London
Event Place Lambeth, London, England
Age (available after 1866) 44
Birth Year (Estimated) 1853

Hi Flip.

Prickly Holly has got the correct 1881 census. The 1891 census has been transcribed as Guster rather than Purser but it is definitely him.

Name George Guster
Age 38
Estimated Birth Year abt 1853
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Mary Guster
Gender Male
Where born Lambeth, London, England
Civil parish St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish St Jude
County/Island London
Country England
Registration district St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district London Road
ED, institution, or vessel 5
Piece 348
Folio 122
Page number 38

George Guster 38
Mary Guster 42
William Guster 12
Robert Guster 11
George Guster 7

lostmeboardname has got the correct death. I have this certificate on file.

Ah, they appear as "Guster" in 1891........

George Guster in the 1891 England Census
Name: George Guster
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Guster
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England
Civil Parish: St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 348
Folio: 122
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
George Guster 38
Mary Guster 42
William Guster 12
Robert Guster 11
George Guster 7

The witnesses on the marriage record are.....

Thomas and Eliza Legood.

Marriages Mar 1867 (>99%)
LEGOOD Thomas Burston Lambeth 1d 380
PURSER Eliza Lambeth 1d 380

Thomas Burston Legood in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Thomas Burston Legood
Spouse: Eliza Purser
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Mar 1867
Parish: All Saints, Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
County: Surrey
Father Name: Thomas Burston Legood
Spouse Father: George Purser (Chair Maker) Deceased
Register Type: Parish Register


I thought her father might be Jeremiah too.

I wonder.......

???

George Purser in the 1871 England Census
Name: George Purser
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Stepson
Mother's name: Charlotte Clark
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St George in the East
Ecclesiastical parish: St John The Evangelist in the East
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 531
Folio: 4
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Clark 50
Charlotte Clark 40 Branton, Huntingdonshire, England
Albert Clark 2
Edward Clark 10 Months
George Purser 17
Charlotte Purser 13 (Step Daughter)


Marriages Mar 1868 (>99%)
Clark Stephen Whitechapel 1c 648
Purser Charlotte Whitechapel 1c 648

Hmmm, Father John on the 1861 census.......

George Preiser in the 1861 England Census
George Preiser
[George Purser]
[Geroge Preiser]
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: 1854
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Preiser
Mother's name: Charlotte Preiser
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St George in the East
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 65
Piece: 275
Folio: 107
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
John Preiser 22 Huntingdonshire, England (General Carman)
Charlotte Preiser 30
George Preiser 7
Eliza Preiser 4
Charlotte Preiser 2

Holly,

A lot to think about!

Eliza Preiser could match with the Eliza who witnessed George's marriage. But the 1861 census that gives George's birthplace as Stepney and 1871 that gives it as Bethnal Green doesn't quite match with the later censuses that show him as being born in Lambeth. I might have to try and check maps.

Thanks for taking the time to look at this.

Rob

Hi Robert

A visitor popped in and i have other things to do right now........but i will come back to this later.

Prickles. ;o))

No worries. I didn't expect anyone to spend this much time on it!

Many thanks Prickles!

this could be George William

Births Sep 1853   (>99%)

PROSSER
 George William Ward
 
 Strand
 1b
357

?? Eliza's baptism

London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Eliza Purser
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 22 Feb 1857
Father's name: John Purser
Mother's name: Charlotte Purser
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Matthias, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

from image:-
Address:- (can't decipher it)
Father occupation:- Carman

I've just looked at the image of that 1861 Census, and I think father John's age is 32, not 22

Name Age
John Preiser 22 Huntingdonshire, England (General Carman)
Charlotte Preiser 30 b.ca 1831, Brampton, Huntingdonshire
George Preiser 7 b.ca 1854, Stepney, Middlesex
Eliza Preiser 4 b.ca 1857, Stepney
Charlotte Preiser 2 b.ca 1859, St George in the East, Middlesex

Address:- 2 Grove St

from the new GRO Index

PURSER, GEORGE JOSEPH mmn SUTER
GRO Reference: 1854 M Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 366

PURSER, ELIZA mmn SUTER
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 343

PURSER, CHARLOTTE mmn SUTER
GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 369


Marriage of parents John and Charlotte ...........

Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%)
Purser John Whitechapel 1c 725
Suter Charlotte Whitechapel 1c 725



Other children of this name combination .........

PURSER, ALICE SUTER
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 428

PURSER, WILLIAM SUTER
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 428

PURSER, JOSEPH SUTER
GRO Reference: 1864 D Quarter in SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 405



????????????? John's death

Deaths Sep 1866 (>99%)
Purser John 39 St. Geo. East 1c 477

So ................ the George Purser of that 1861 Census is actually George JOSEPH, not George William


According to a Public Family Tree on ancestry, George Josephe married Eliza Bolt in 1874



so not the correct George????

It would also mean that Eliza was only 10 or 11 years old when she married in 1867.

So, unfortunately, I agree that it looks like the wrong family.

Burial Register summary

Purser George W
Burial date 29 April 1897
Location Southwark

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

(from above, if anything else on there)

Chris :)


(there is below, but not sure if that says Jeremiah?, his occ. Labourer)

All London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 (Ancestry)

Mary Ann Pircer (Spinster)
11 Nov 1883 Ernest Albert Pointing St Peter


Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Percer Mary Ann Lambeth 1d 886
POINTING Ernest Albert Lambeth 1d 886


1881 (Find My Past)
Ernest A Pointing Head Married Male 30 1851 Labourer Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England
Mary Ann Pointing Wife Married Female 32 1849 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
Ernest Pointing Son Single Male 8 1873 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
Eliza Pointing Daughter Single Female 5 1876 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
William Pointing Son Single Male 3 1878 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
Mary Ann Pointing Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
Street Wickham Street
Parish Lambeth
County London, Surrey
Registration district Lambeth
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 597
Folio 15
Page 24


POINTING, WILLIAM GEORGE (PERCER)
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 387


POINTING, MARY ANN BETSY (PERCER)
GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 431