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26 Feb 2017 18:47 |
I note that the image of the Parish Register for John and Mary Ann's marriage shows that the witnesses were James Every and Elizabeth Every ........ obviously related to Mary Ann
Have you tried to trace James and/or Elizabeth?
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26 Feb 2017 18:55 |
This is the will of John Colocott, but dated 1842 ............... from FindMyPast
no further details unfortunately
Devon Wills Index, 1163-1999
First name(s) John Last name Colocott Sex Male Occupation Labourer Probate year 1842 Place Stoke Damerel Original place Stoke Damerel County Devon Country England Additional information admon granted to John Colocott, coach wheelwright of 14 Windsor Place, Southwark Bridge Road, son Court (Consistory) Archdeaconry Court of Totnes Source (see list) DDR2 Document type Administration Document form Abstract or Extract Document references IR 26/503 f.77 Record set Devon Wills Index, 1163-1999 Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Wills & probate Collections from United Kingdom
© Devon Wills Project and Findmypast
Note that John Colocott, coach wheelwright was granted Administration of the will when it was probated in 1842 ..... mis-spelled as "admon"
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26 Feb 2017 18:58 |
This refers to that same will ..............
Index to Death Duty Registers
First name(s) John Last name Colocott Death year 1842 Residence 14 WINDSOR PLACE SOUTHWARK BRIDGE ROAD County - Court All Courts Excluding Pcc Record set Index To Death Duty Registers 1796-1903 National Archives reference IR27/124 Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Wills & probate Collections from United Kingdom
The image is of the handwritten page from the Index, and gives no further information
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26 Feb 2017 19:12 |
snap, Maddie!
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Clive
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26 Feb 2017 19:32 |
Hi Maddie,
Thanks - I must have misread the date as 1848 but it is clearly 1842 and this is definitely him.
The John Colocott who dies in 1884 is his son and John Thomas Colocott is his Grandson.
The John Colcott that you found in the 1841 census is a good possibility also. When I looked at the handwritten version on Ancestry it looks very much like it could say Colicott. The next name on the census looks very much like Grace Colicott (Aged 25) and is possibly a daughter?. I can't find anything on her that fits though?
Many Thanks
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26 Feb 2017 19:34 |
Thanks Silvain,
The James Every and Elizabeth Every lead is good. I hadn't seen that.
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26 Feb 2017 19:56 |
grrrrrrrrrrrrr .....
I found a lot of information, and it's gone into the ether :-( :-P
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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26 Feb 2017 20:43 |
and it just disappeared for the second time
I should give up!!!
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26 Feb 2017 21:39 |
Thomas was married before he married Elizabeth ........
Devon Marriages
First name(s) Thomas Last name Every Age - Birth year - Marriage year 1800 Marriage date 28 Jun 1800 Denomination Anglican Place Stoke Damerel Residence Stoke Damerel Spouse's first name(s) Patty Spouse's last name Stevens Spouse's residence Stoke Damerel County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Marriages Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from United Kingdom
from image:- Thomas, of this parish, a Taylor Patty, a Spinster Witnesses:- Wm Roberts and Jonas Stevens
Patty died in October 1803 .......
Plymouth Deaths & Burials
First name(s) Pally Last name Every Age 23 Birth year 1780 Burial year 1803 Burial date 07 Oct 1803 Denomination Anglican Place Stoke Damerel County Devon Country England Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Page 57 Archive reference 166/82 Record set Devon Burials Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from United Kingdom
One child of the marriage .............
Plymouth Baptism Register
First name(s) Ann Stevens Last name Every Birth year 1803 Birth date 10 Jul 1803 Baptism year 1803 Baptism date 14 Aug 1803 Denomination Anglican Place Stoke Damerel Father's first name(s) Thomas Mother's first name(s) Patty Mother's last name - County Devon Country England Archive reference 166/9 Page 26 Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Baptisms Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from United Kingdom
no extra information on the image
Ann died in December 1803, the image shows she was 5 months old .......
Plymouth Deaths & Burials
First name(s) Ann Stephens Last name Every Age 5 Birth year 1803 Burial year 1803 Burial date 15 Dec 1803 Denomination Anglican Place Stoke Damerel County Devon Country England Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Page 59 Archive reference 166/82 Record set Devon Burials Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from United Kingdom
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26 Feb 2017 21:41 |
Thomas second marriage ................
Devon Marriages
First name(s) Thomas Last name Every Age - Birth year - Marriage year 1807 Marriage date 29 Nov 1807 Denomination Anglican Place Stoke Damerel Residence Stoke Damerel Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Spouse's last name Cole Spouse's residence Stoke Damerel County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Marriages Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from United Kingdom
from image:- Thomas, of this Parish, a Taylor & Mercer, Widower Elizabeth, Spinster Witnesses:- John Wheeler and James Tapper
Children of the marriage ...................
Plymouth Baptism Register
First name(s) Thomas Cole Last name Every Birth year 1809 Birth date 04 May 1809 Baptism year 1809 Baptism date 18 May 1809 Denomination Anglican Place Stoke Damerel Father's first name(s) Thomas Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Mother's last name - County Devon Country England Archive reference 166/9 Page 97 Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Baptisms Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from United Kingdom
no extra information on image
Plymouth Baptism Register
First name(s) Elizabeth Last name Every Birth year 1811 Birth date ? ? 1811 Baptism year 1811 Baptism date 24 Feb 1811 Denomination Anglican Place Stoke Damerel Father's first name(s) Thomas Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Mother's last name - County Devon Country England Archive reference 166/9 Page 122 Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Baptisms Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from United Kingdom
no extra information on image
Elizabeth died in 1814 ........
Devon Burials
First name(s) Elizabeth Last name Every Age 3 Years 8 Months Birth year 1811 Death year 1814 Burial year 1814 Burial date 27 Oct 1814 Denomination Anglican Burial place Stoke Damerel County Devon Country England Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Burials Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from United Kingdom
Devon Baptisms
First name(s) Mary Ann Last name Every Birth year 1813 Birth date 30 Sep 1813 Baptism year 1813 Denomination Anglican Baptism place Stoke Damerel Father's first name(s) Thomas Father's occupation Mercer Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Residence Dock County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Baptisms Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from United Kingdom
Devon Baptisms
First name(s) James Tapper Last name Every Birth year 1815 Birth date ? ? 1815 Baptism year 1815 Baptism date 09 Apr 1815 Denomination Anglican Baptism place Stoke Damerel Father's first name(s) Thomas Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Archive reference 166/11 Record set Devon Baptisms Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from United Kingdom
from image:- Father occupation:- Mercer Address:- Dock
Devon Baptisms
First name(s) James Tapper Last name Every Birth year 1815 Birth date ? ? 1815 Baptism year 1815 Baptism date 09 Apr 1815 Denomination Anglican Baptism place Stoke Damerel Father's first name(s) Thomas Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Archive reference 166/11 Record set Devon Baptisms Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from United Kingdom
from image:- Father occupation:- Taylor Address:- Dock
Devon Baptisms
First name(s) Nicholas Last name Every Birth year 1821 Birth date ? ? 1821 Baptism year 1821 Baptism date 11 Mar 1821 Denomination Anglican Baptism place Stoke Damerel Father's first name(s) Thomas Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Archive reference 166/13 Record set Devon Baptisms Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from United Kingdom
from image:- Father occupation:- Taylor Address:- Dock
Thomas died in 1820 ........
Devon Burials
First name(s) Thomas Last name Every Age 46 Birth year 1774 Death year 1820 Burial year 1820 Burial date 12 Oct 1820 Denomination Anglican Burial place Stoke Damerel County Devon Country England Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Archive reference 166/85 Record set Devon Burials Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from United Kingdom
from image:- Address:- King Street
???Elizabeth remarried in 1835 ..........
Devon Marriages
First name(s) Elizabeth Last name Every Age - Birth year - Marriage year 1835 Marriage date 17 Oct 1835 Denomination Anglican Place Stoke Damerel Residence Stoke Damerel Spouse's first name(s) Robert Spouse's last name Tucker Spouse's residence Stoke Damerel County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Marriages Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from United Kingdom
from image:- Married by License Robert, widower Elizabeth, widow
Witnesses:- Rbt Winnicatt
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26 Feb 2017 22:18 |
I think this is Elizabeth Every, b.1817 and her brother Nicholas b.1820 on the 1841 Census ..... ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 on the 1841 (and only on that census). Elizabeth would have been 23 and Nicholas 20.
Plus her name is listed first, which is not usual if they were married.
1841 Census
Name: Eliz Every Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Gender: Female Where born: Devon, England Civil Parish: Stoke Damerell Hundred: Roborough County/Island: Devon Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Damerel Sub-registration district: Morice
Piece: 273 Book: 4 Folio: 33 Page Number: 60
Eliz Every 20 Milliner Nichols Every 20 Cabinet Maker
Address:- King Street
Living next door are the following couple ........... could it possibly be their mother Elizabeth???
Name: B Tucker Age: 59 Estimated birth year: abt 1782 Gender: Male Where born: Devon, England Civil Parish: Stoke Damerell Hundred: Roborough County/Island: Devon Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Damerel Sub-registration district: Morice
Piece: 273 Book: 4 Folio: 33 Page Number: 60
B Tucker 59 b.ca 1782, Devon, Sawyer Eliz Tucker 50 b.ca 1791, not born in county Wm Tucker 20 b.ca 1841
Address:- King Street
Possible!!!
William's mother was also called Elizabeth, but an Elizabeth Tucker of appropriate age died in 1830, so Robert could have married another Elizabeth
Devon Baptisms
First name(s) William Henry Last name Tucker Birth year 1816 Birth date ? ? 1816 Baptism year 1816 Baptism date 22 Dec 1816 Denomination Anglican Baptism place Stoke Damerel Father's first name(s) Thomas Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Archive reference 166/11 Record set Devon Baptisms Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from United Kingdom
from image:- Father occupation:- Sawyer Address:- Dock
Devon Burials
First name(s) Elizabeth Last name Tucker Age 47 Birth year 1783 Death year 1830 Burial year 1830 Burial date 07 Oct 1830 Denomination Anglican Burial place Stoke Damerel County Devon Country England Notes Queen Street Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Burials Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from United Kingdom
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26 Feb 2017 22:57 |
Nicholas married twice ........
Devon Marriages
First name(s) Nicholas Last name Every Age Full Birth year - Marriage year 1842 Marriage date 18 Apr 1842 Denomination Anglican Place Stoke Damerel Father's first name(s) Thomas Father's last name Every Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann Spouse's last name Potam Spouse's age Full Spouse's father's first name(s) John Spouse's father's last name Potam County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Marriages Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from United Kingdom
from image:- Nicholas Bachelor Cabinet Maker Address:- 17 King Street Father occupation:- Taylor
Mary Ann Spinster Address:- 28 Queen Street Father occupation:- Taylor
Witnesses:- John Symons and Grace Alger
Plymouth Deaths & Burials
First name(s) Mary Ann Last name Every Age 28 Birth year 1820 Burial year 1848 Burial date 14 Jul 1848 Denomination Anglican Place Stoke Damerel County Devon Country England Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Page 134 Archive reference 166/92 Record set Devon Burials Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from United Kingdom
from image:- Address:- 26 Queen St Died:- 12 July 1848
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
First name(s) NICHOLAS Last name EVERY Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1850 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ NICHOLAS EVERY married one of these people Elizabeth Rickard, Charlotte Mares, Susanna Rider,>>>>>> CATHERINE BAVIN <<<<< District Stoke Damerel District number - County Devon Country England Volume 9 Page 525 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2008 Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from United Kingdom
1851 Census
Name: Nicholas Every Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Cather Every Gender: Male Where born: Devonport, Devon, England Civil Parish: Stoke Damerel Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Devonport County/Island: Devon Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Damerel Sub-registration district: Morice ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Household schedule number: 259 Piece: 1882 Folio: 88 Page Number: 51
Nicholas Every 30 Cabinet Maker Cather Every 33 Mary Ann Every 6 John Every 8 Thos Every 4 Joanah Bavin 68 Mother-in-law
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26 Feb 2017 23:14 |
?????????????
I wonder if John Collacott died in Stoke Damerel, despite the Lambeth address on the will?
These are the same entry, different transcriptions ....
Deaths Jun 1842 (>99%) Colkacott John Stoke Damerel 9 345 COLLACOTT John Stoke Damerel 9 345
Plymouth Deaths & Burials
First name(s) John Last name Collacott Age 71 Birth year 1771 Burial year 1842 Burial date 30 May 1842 Denomination Anglican Place Stoke Damerel County Devon Country England Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Page 405 Archive reference 166/90 Record set Devon Burials Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from United Kingdom
from image:- Address:- Ordnance Street Died:- 23 May 1842
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27 Feb 2017 11:55 |
1841
Grace Colwel
Name: Grace Colwell [Grace Colicott] Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Gender: Female Where born: Devon, England Civil Parish: Stoke Damerell Hundred: Roborough County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Stoke Damerel Sub-registration district: Morice Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 273 Book: 4 Folio: 19 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Eliga Barnet 25 Susan Barnet 25 Willm Barnet 4 John Cobiott 60 - lookis like colicott - a laboureer Grace Colwell 25
can't see anything else
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27 Feb 2017 14:03 |
Sylvia - Many thanks for this - lots of information! I will need some time to digest it all!
The Lambeth address in the will looks like it is John Colocotts son John. I suspect he actually died in Devon as the will is from that area and there is no evidence of him living with his son in the 1841 census.
I never realized that they rounded the ages on the 1841 census - that explains a couple of age discrepancies that I have on other parts of my tree!
As you are in Canada, I was wondering if you were able to trace anything on Arthur Colocott (Born 1884 Egremont Cheshire / Liverpool). I think he married Agnes Maud Finch in 1907 but then seems to emigrate to Canada in 1910 without her. He joined the Canadian army in WW1 and died in hospital in Aberdeen in 1916. I am trying to find out if he had any children, either in the UK or in Canada.
Best Regards
Clive
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27 Feb 2017 14:06 |
Thanks for looking Maddie,
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27 Feb 2017 14:30 |
there is an arthur james born 1980 west derby, died 1909
Arthur James Colocott Event Type Death Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Registration Year 1909 Registration District West Derby County Lancashire Event Place West Derby, Lancashire, England Volume 8B Page 280 Line Number 205
Arthur James Colocott Event Type Birth Registration Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year 1908 Registration District West Derby County Lancashire Event Place West Derby, Lancashire, England Volume 8B Page 388 Line Number 216
First name(s) Arthur James Last name Colocott Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1908 Baptism date 05 Jul 1908 Residence Kirkdale, Lancashire, England Place Kirkdale County Lancashire Country England Father's first name(s) Arthur Father's last name Colocott Mother's first name(s) Agnes Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
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27 Feb 2017 14:47 |
is this agnes Agnes Caldecott Event Type Death Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year 1915 Registration District West Derby County Lancashire Event Place West Derby, Lancashire, England Volume 8B Page 575 Line Number 2
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27 Feb 2017 16:13 |
(just butting in folks to add below, if him!)
Chris :)
Colocott, ,Pte. Arthur, Xo. 622856. Went from here, with the 44th reserve battalion. Kin in England.
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/44181697/
(above found from below, on google search)
http://www.gov.mb.ca/sd/lands_branch/geo_names/document/manitoba_ww1_names.pdf
Chris :)
(named in below list, about the unveiling of Allenvale War Memorial)
21 January 1924 - Aberdeen Press and Journal - Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire
Pte. Arthur Colocott. 8th Batt. Canadians.
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx?cpage=3&sort=name&order=asc
COLOCOTT, A Rank: Private Service No: 622856 Date of Death: 03/07/1916 Age: 33 Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry 8th Bn. Grave Reference: Screen Wall. S. 173. Cemetery: ABERDEEN (ALLENVALE) CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of James and Caroline Colocott, late of Egremont, Cheshire, England.
COLOCOTT, ARTHUR (GOODALL) GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 543
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1883
COLOCOTT Arthur Wallasey Wirral WAL/38/81
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/list.aspx?RegimentNum=622856&
(Service Record. Dated 14/9/1915) (Date of Birth: 29/11/1882)
Edits
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e444/e011089536.pdf
622856, Private. Colocott, Arthur, Nil, (Name of Next of Kin) Colocott, Alfred, 52 Dryden St., Bootle, Liverpool, Eng, England.
1911 (Find My Past) Alfred James Colocott Head Married Male General Labourer 45 1866 Wallasey Cheshire Lizzie Colocott Wife Married Female - 43 1868 Shrewsbury Shropshire Florence Colocott Daughter Single Female Book Keeper 17 1894 Everton Liverpool Lanc Elsie Irene Colocott Daughter - Female School 11 1900 Clun Shropshire Leonard James Colocott Son - Male - 2 1909 Bootle Liverpool Lancs Address 52 Dryden Street Bootle Parish Bootle cum Linacre County Lancashire Census reference RG14 PN22434 RG78 PN1322 RD455 SD5 ED28 SN125
COLOCOTT, ALFRED JAMES (GOODALL) GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 513
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28 Feb 2017 13:26 |
Chris - that's fantastic ! Thanks very much. You've even included his service record. I have a few more military people in my tree and one other in the Canadian army. I will post separate threads on the military chat. I didn't expect there to be that much info out there!
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