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Lee50

Lee50 Report 11 Feb 2017 20:01

I wondered if someone would do a search for me. I am trying to find a birth entry for - Maria (Mary) Pike. She married John (Joannes) Conway in 1810 as follows -

County Kent
Place (link for place information) Greenwich
Church name St Alfege
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 347
Marriage date 24 Jun 1810
Groom forename John
Groom surname CONWAY
Groom condition bachelor
Groom parish East Greenwich
Bride forename Maria
Bride surname PIKE
Bride condition minor
Bride parish East Greenwich
Witness Jno Hn PIKE
Witness Mary CONWAY
Register note Also witnessed by Catharine Conway. Married by licence and with consent of parents

Also any children they may have had. I know John Conway died in 1819 and I wondered if she married again. I only have paid access to GR and haven't been able to find anymore on here. I wondered if anyone could help.
Thank you.

malyon

malyon Report 11 Feb 2017 20:27

Maria Conway
England Deaths and Burials
Name
Maria Conway
Gender
Female
Burial Date
06 Apr 1820
Burial Place
Maidstone, Kent, England

malyon

malyon Report 11 Feb 2017 20:41

where in 1819 did john die

Lee50

Lee50 Report 11 Feb 2017 20:42

Okay, that's a surprise! Thank you.

Lee50

Lee50 Report 11 Feb 2017 20:44

He died in Greenwich Kent. 25/11/1819 He's buried in St Alpheges church.

safc

safc Report 11 Feb 2017 20:46


East Kent Burial Index Transcription

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First name(s) MARIA
Last name(s) CONWAY
Age at death 0
Birth year 1820
Birth date 1820
Death year 1820
Burial year 1820
Burial day 06
Burial month Apr
Residence Workhouse
Parish Maidstone
County Kent
Country England
Record set East Kent Burial Index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Lee50

Lee50 Report 11 Feb 2017 20:57

I wonder why she would have been in Maidstone, a bit of a trek from Greenwich. I see its a workhouse, I would have still thought it would have been more local, I don't know??

alviegal

alviegal Report 11 Feb 2017 21:06

I wonder if this is the birth of little Maria, who died in the workhouse? Would seem not to be connected to your search.

First name(s) Maria
Last name Conway
Baptism year 1820
Baptism date 28 Mar 1820
Relationship Daughter Of
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name 28
Parent's occupation Labourer
Residence Maidstone
Dedication All Saints

Lee50

Lee50 Report 11 Feb 2017 21:09

Thank you, yes I would say it was, in which case its the wrong family.

alviegal

alviegal Report 11 Feb 2017 21:09

This transcription has Maria as a widow, not a minor. Do you know what age John was when he died?


North West Kent Marriages Transcription

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First name(s) Maria
Last name Pike
Spouse's last name Conway
Spouse's first name(s) John
Marriage year 1810
Marriage date 24 Jun 1810
Church St Alfege
Place Greenwich
Groom's first name(s) John
Groom's last name Conway
Groom's marital status Bachelor
Bride's first name(s) Maria
Bride's last name Pike
Bride's marital status Widow
County Kent
Country England

Lee50

Lee50 Report 11 Feb 2017 21:15

Thats really odd, why would she be a minor on one and a widow on another!

I'm not 100% sure if he was born in 1783 or 1788 it depends what records you look at but what I do know is he was about 31 when he died.

His parents were Tobias (Tobiae) Conway and Elizabeth Daniell and he was born in Gosport Hampshire.

Lee50

Lee50 Report 11 Feb 2017 21:42

I suppose if you think about it.....

if she was a widow, her surname of course would not have been Pike at birth, maybe that's why I can't find a birth entry for her.

So how would I find her previous marriage, anyone any idea?

Still odd I can't find any records of children for John and her in the 9 years of their marriage.

alviegal

alviegal Report 11 Feb 2017 21:48

No, I'm sorry, I see you've got your info from freereg which is where I've just looked also.

I assume one of the transcriptions has a mistake as to whether she was a widow or a minor but it makes a huge difference to her age and also to her maiden name. Without seeing a copy of the original document, we can't tell.

I was wondering whether this could be her with the first husband and a daughter.

County Kent
Place (link for place information) Greenwich
Church name St Alfege
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 31 Mar 1801
Birth date 04 Mar 1801
Person forename Mary
Person sex F
Father forename Charles
Father surname PIKE
Father occupation A Labourer
Mother forename >>Mary<<


Obviously this is just a complete stab in the dark going on the area. I can't find anything conclusive about Charles Pike.


Sorry :-( :-( :-(

safc

safc Report 11 Feb 2017 21:49

how do you get back to maria pike and john tobias conway ?



Elizabeth Anne Conway
mentioned in the record of James William Bean and Elizabeth Anne Conway
Name James William Bean
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Anne Conway
Event Date 1842
Event Place Croydon, Surrey, England
Father's Name James Bean
Spouse's Father's Name John Tobias Conway

Lee50

Lee50 Report 11 Feb 2017 21:59

Yes I have her on my family tree, but......

I'm not sure who her mother is. I don't know if she is the daughter of John Tobias and Maria Pike or if her mother was called Elizabeth, in which case he married twice, but I don't know if Eliz Ann was born c1812 or earlier, on Censuses she changes her dates and places of birth.

Elizabeth Ann Conway is supposedly the daughter of John Tobias...... but I've never found a record to confirm that.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 12 Feb 2017 11:15

Mary/ Maria's death?

Name: Mary Conway
Gender: Female
Age: 38
Birth Date: 1789
Burial Date: 19 Feb 1827
Burial Place: Chatham, Kent, England
FHL Film Number: 1473660
Reference ID: p 180 No. 1436

Potty

Potty Report 12 Feb 2017 12:07

Ancestry has the image of the marriage - Maris mistranscribed as Rike. It definitely says minor not widow.

The witnesses are:

Jno (2nd name possibly Hny) Pike
Mary Conway
Christine Conway

Lee50

Lee50 Report 12 Feb 2017 13:42

Thank you Potty. I don't think the Chatham Conway's are the same family AustinQ.

Lee50

Lee50 Report 13 Feb 2017 09:55

Does anyone know what age Maria would have been considered a 'minor' but old enough to marry?

Lee50

Lee50 Report 13 Feb 2017 10:01

alviegal - Thank you.

Its very possible there is a link with this, as this church is significant with the family of Conway's, lots of baptisms, marriages and burials there, so it could well be Maria's family, but it can't be Maria, it would have made her 9 when she married.