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Looking for Richard F Sinclair born Aug 1919, son of Harry Sinclair and Jessie Winifred Hope, of 40 Bessborough Place, Plimlico, London.
He is listed on the above record, service number 133056, can anyone tell me what it says? I only have subs for Genesreunited and it doesn't have this record. Any info about parents very welcome as I am having no luck. Have birth, baptism and death for Richard but nothing else.
Thanks Nicky

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First name(s) Richard F
Last name Sinclair
Year 1942
Nationality Brit
Service number 133056
Rank F/lt
Country of imprisonment -
Prison camp or ship Marlag Milag Nord Lager Luft
Conflict World War 2
Archive The National Archives
Archive reference AIR 40/269
Document details Milag - Marlag Nord - Oflag L roll Feb-Mar 1945
Record set Prisoners Of War 1715-1945
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain

Thank you, but what does it mean? was 1942 when he was taken prisoner? How long was he there? and where was he?
I can't even work out if he was in Army,Navy or Airforce?
Sorry for my ignorance but this is my husbands grandfather and we know nothing about him.
Thanks Nicky

Marlag und Milag Nord - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlag_und_Milag_Nord
Marlag und Milag Nord was a World War II German prisoner-of-war camp complex for men of ... Milag (Marineinterniertenlager, "Marine internment camp"), the Merchant Navy camp, was 300 m (980 ft) to the east of Marlag. ... On 4 February 1945 some 3,000 men evacuated from Stalag Luft III arrived at Marlag-Milag. In order ...

Records for people who left the forces after 1920 are still with the MOD. Here is a link with information about how to order the service records:-

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records

The records cost £30 and often take several months to arrive. You have to meet certain criteria in order to purchase them.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/merchant-seaman-serving-after-1917/

As his rank is given as F/lt, (Flight lieutenant) it sounds very much as if he was in the RAF.
With only a couple of exceptions, all the men listed on the page have ranks relating to the RAF eg Flying Officer & Squadron Leader

The transcription was taken from a list held at the National Archive, Archive reference AIR 40/269.
Its probably better to purchase a copy of his military records, and if they don't answer your questions, think about contacting the National Archives to discover if there is anything else to be found.

Thanks again for the info, just wondering if any of Richard F Sinclair service records would state his DOB? 27/08/1919 Lambeth. Then I would know it's the right person.

I just looked at the Gov.UK website for requesting deceased service personnel records!! It doesn't look easy, if only I could be sure that F/lt Richard F Sinclair, service number 133056 was born 27/08/1919.
I would tackle the complex forms and pay the fee.

Although his were from RAF National Service just after the war, the ones we have give DOB, name of his NOK and their address.

Added - a while ago someone sent me a transcript of their relatives RAF records. They enlisted 1942. Amongst other info, it gave their full DOB, place of birth, occupation & details of next of kin. As this person was older & married, it also listed his children's names & DOB.

If there's space to add additional info, you could add the names of his parents as a checking point. However, you wouldn't get a refund if it's the wrong person.

He isn't showing on the CWGC site as a Casualty

Could this be him ????

Richard Francis Sinclair
Birth Date: 27 Aug 1919
Date of Registration: Jun 1978
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 12
Page: 0798

Birth ties with baptism so he wasn't a WW2 casualty

First name(s) Richard Francis
Last name Sinclair
Birth year 1919
Birth date 27 Aug 1919
Baptism year 1919
Baptism date 12 Oct 1919
Father's first name(s) Harry
Mother's first name(s) Jessie Winifred
Parish Holy Trinity, Vauxhall Bridge Road
County Middlesex
Country England
Page 254
Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
Westminster Archives

Name: Richard F Sinclair
Year: 1946
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
Street address: 137 Hammersmith Grove

Living in a household with others but on his own

Same address to 1957 to 1961

In from 1962 - 1965 he is living at 137a with Joan V Sinclair

Odd that the parents marriage seems to be indexed in 1918 & 1929??

1939 register:

Sinclair Household (4 People) 15 St Georges Road , City of Westminster, London, England

Harry Sinclair 29 Aug 1875 Male Interpreter Retire Married
Jessie Sinclair 12 Sep 1889 Female Unpaid D Duty Married
Stanley Sinclair 30 Jul 1920 Male Barber Single
Frank (R) Sinclair 17 Aug 1925 Male Van Boy Single

Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
Hope Jessie Winifred Wandsworth 1d 629



Jessie Winifred Hope
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Jessie Winifred Hope
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Nov 1889
Father's name: Rowland Henry Hope
Mother's name: Eliza Hope
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea St Stephen
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers




Jessie W Hope
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Jessie W Hope
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Roland H Hope
Mother: Eliza Hope
Birth Place: Battersea, London, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church First
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 405
Folio: 7
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Roland H Hope 44
Eliza Hope 41
Gilbert R Hope 15
Harry R Hope 13
Jessie W Hope 11
John B Hope 6
Percy A Hope 4
George R Grish 40

Jessie W Hope
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Jessie W Hope
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Roland H Hope
Mother's name: Eliza Hope
Gender: Female
Where born: Pimlico
Civil Parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub registration district: West Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 431
Folio: 17
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Roland H Hope 34
Eliza Hope 31
Gilbert R Hope 6
Harry R Hope 3
Jessie W Hope 1



Jessie Winifred Hope
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Jessie Winifred Hope
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, England
Civil Parish: Wrotham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Great Comp Cottage, Borough Green
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Housemaid
Registration district: Malling
Registration District Number: 48
Sub-registration district: Wrotham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 109
Piece: 3984
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Steve Bright Mc Laren 57
Eva Maria Mc Laren 58
Mary Campbell Mc Laren 45
Jessie Winifred Hope 20
Mary Pether 45

Jessie W Sinclair
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Jessie W Sinclair
Birth Date: abt 1889
Date of Registration: Dec 1940
Age at Death: 51
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 276

Possibly Harry's birth, if 1939 details are correct:

Births Sep 1875 (>99%)
Sinclair Harry Gravesend 2a 418


SINCLAIR, HARRY mms WELCH
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in GRAVESEND Volume 02A Page 418


Possible marriages for parents: [ EDIT: no, not either of these - see below.]

Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%)
SINCLAIR John Stepney 1c 1017
Welch Hannah Stepney 1c 1017
Wilhelmy Elizabeth Stepney 1c 1017
Wooder William Stepney 1c 1017


Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)
Sinclair Donald John Medway 2a 721
Welch Ann Elizabeth Medway 2a 721

BUT -
The 1872 couple are traceable in censuses, and they did have a son Harry, but he was born 1884 in Chatham.

and re 1867 marriage -

John Sinclair married Elizabeth Wilhelmy - so that marriage isn't Harry's parents, either:

Elizabeth Wilhelmy
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Elizabeth Wilhelmy
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Age: 30
Spouse: John Sinelair
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Nov 1867
Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Spouse Father: James Sinelair
Register Type: Parish Register

The Gravesend birth is unlikely:

Death:
First name(s) HARRY
Last name SINCLAIR
Gender Male
Birth year 1875
Age 0
Death quarter 3
Death year 1875
District Gravesend
County Kent
Volume 2A Page 232

Burial:
First name(s) Harry
Last name Sinclair
Age at death 1 Week
Birth year 1875
Burial year 1875
Burial date 03 Sep 1875
Residence High Street
Place Gravesend
Burial ground Municipal Cemetery
County Kent