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Hi Chris you are always welcome to stick beak in

Thank you I'll have a look on Ancestry when I'm in the archives,

Wendy

Sticks 'beak' in', to add he is on below, think that says Saunders for Catherine 1919...

UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 (Ancestry)

Chris :)

(am on there for other names, so took a look!, might want to check AQ, see what you think, eyeballs been goggley a bit here, lol)

I appreciate all your help Austin and I'm sure I'll be back needing some more help

All the best

Wendy

Wendy- thanks for letting us help! On a rainy day (like today) , it's nice to have something to do indoors.

If I spot anything else or find Fanny I'll let you know :-)

Hi Austin,

Thank you for the info on Edgar and his wife. I also cannot find what happened to Fanny Howe too cannot find a marriage or death for her.

Well Thank you for all your help and time you have been a star :-D

All the best

Wendy

You may have all this information, but there is a photo of Edgar on the link below- and a description of a letter he sent his wife from the trenches:

http://mediafiles.thedms.co.uk/Publication/LM/cms/pdf/March%201915%20WWI.pdf

I can't see what happened to Fanny Edwards Howe. I see her upto 1891 then her mother has her as dead in 1911.

GRO WAR DEATHS ARMY OTHER RANKS (1914 to1921) Transcription

First name(s) Edgar
Last name Howe
Death year 1916
Service number 12075
Rank Private
Regiment or unit Leicestershire Regiment
Record source GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 to 1921)
Volume I.47
Page 105
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His wife Catherine remarries in 1918:

First name(s) Catherine
Last name Howe
Age 38
Birth year 1880
Residence Whitwick
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Findell
Marriage year 1918
Marriage date 04 Dec 1918
Spouse's first name(s) Fred
Spouse's last name Saunders
Spouse's age 40
Spouse's residence Coalville
Spouse's father's first name(s) George
Spouse's father's last name Saunders
Denomination Anglican
Place Coalville
County Leicestershire
Country England
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Catherine (living with daughter) in 1939:

Holmes Household (3 People) Holm Crest,Jennys Lane , Ashby-de-la-Zouch R.D., Leicestershire, England

Sidney H Holmes 02 May 1910 Male Lorry Driver (Miller) Married
Fanny E Holmes 05 Feb 1907 Female Hosiery (Mender) Married
Catherine Saunders 28 Feb 1880 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
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Thank you Dea I didn't know that learn something everyday. Sorry about that Austin
so could be her.

Wendy

Not too late Wendy - the 1939 details were updated with later married names etc until about 1991 so she would have been Wright in 1939 (they put that name in brackets on transcriptions) and then later married a Wallis !!

It looks like the Wallis name was added on 17/5/1949.

Dea x

That marriage is 10yrs after the 1939 register so to late

Hi Austin,

Thank you, yes it could be her but year of birth is 2 years out but will look for marrige.

Wendy

Possible marriage:

First name(s) ARTHUR
Last name WALLIS
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1949
Spouse: Evelyn Wright
Spouse's last name Wright
District Ashby de la Zouch
County Leicestershire
Volume 3A Page 1129

Herbert's burial:
First name(s) Herbert
Last name Wright
Age 55
Birth year 1873
Death year 1928
Burial year 1928
Burial date 17 Apr 1928
Burial place Thringstone (Whitwick, St Andrew's)
Denomination Anglican
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Wonder if this is her in 1939: It indicates another marriage to surname Wallis

Fox Household (2 People) The Outwards , Ashby-de-la-Zouch R.D., Leicestershire, England
Evelyn Wallis (Wright) 08 Oct 1872 Female Domestic Housekeeper Widowed
John W Fox 25 Apr 1874 Male Coal Hewer Below Heavy Worker Widowed

Hi Austin,

Thank you so much it does seem to Emmeline, I have had a look for a Eveline Howe 1871 Whitwick and there does'nt seem to be one so I do think it is Emmeline, seems she like to change her name a fair bit.

Again Thank you both sooooo much your are stars :-D :-D.

Wendy

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Brook Terrace Swannington Leicestershire, Swannington, Leicestershire, England

Herbert Wright Head M Male Stoker At Carriage And 39 1872 Peggsgreen Nr Ashby de la Zouchs Leicestershire
Caroline Wright Wife Married Female Housewife 40 1871 Whitwick Nr Leicester
George Wright Son - Male - 2 1909 Coleorton Nr Ashby de la Zouch
Samuel Kay Cauldwell Boarding Out Orphan - Male - 12 1899 Swannington Nr Ashby de la Zouch

Original looks to be Emmline or Eveline

Looks probable Wendy:


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Moor, Coleston, Thringstone, Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Herbert Wright Head Married Male 27 1874 Coal Miner Ass Onsetter Thringstone, Leicestershire, England
Transcription
Eveline Howe Wright Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Thringstone, Leicestershire, England

Dea x

Hi Austin,

Thank you so much you are a Star. No wonder I could not find the Whittles on 1891 census. I have James and Eliza 1901 and 1911 and found their burials so that's them done apart from Jame's Will which was probated in London.
I have Edgar and his wife Kate on 1911 census and William is with Sarah.

Now there is a marriage of a Eveline Howe to Herbert Wright Mar 1894 Ashby de le Zouch Vol 7a pg 175 so wonder if that is Emmeline?

Again Thank you for all your help you are a star :-D :-D

Wendy

I think Sarah did have six children, but she has some of their ages wrong on the 1911:-

HOWE, EMMELINE
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH UNION Volume 07A Page 90

HOWE, FANNY EDWARDS
GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH UNION Volume 07A Page 93

HOWE, GEORGE
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH Volume 07A Page 94 (died 1876)

HOWE, THOMAS GUMLEY
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH Volume 07A Page 114 (died 1878)

HOWE, EDGAR
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH Volume 07A Page 118

HOWE, WILLIE
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH Volume 07A Page 106
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There is no Kate- but I believe that Kate is Emmeline. As you said- Emma was living with her Aunt in 1881, she is still with her in 1891 using the name Kate (Looking at the original I believe the surname should be Whittle for James and Eliza, as on the 1881 census):

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Oaks, Spring Lane, Swannington, Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England

James Whitch Head Married Male 49 1842 Licensed Hawker Swannington, Leicestershire
Eliza Whitch Wife Married Female 48 1843 - Whitwick, Leicestershire,
Kate Howe Adopted Single Female 20 1871 Assistant Hawker Whitwell, Leicestershire

Hi Austin,

Yes Emmeline was a registered Howe, on 1871 census they werre down as Harris and on 1881 census Emmeline is with her Aunt Eliza and down as Whittle can find nothing on her aft that.

Sarah also had children Fanny born 1872, Edgar 1878 and William 1882 all as Howe.
I got the 1911 census for Sarah on which says she was a widow (we know she wasn't) of School Lane and that she had 6 children 3 had died, it has all name's and what age's they should be;
Kate Howe aged 36 and married, Thomas aged 30 and dead, Edgar aged 34 married, Fanny aged 40 dead, George aged 20 Dead and William aged 27 alive,
all crossed out except William who was living with her.
No mention of Emmeline .

On Sarah's burial it says Sarah Aulsebrook otherwise Howe of School Lane aged 70yrs buried 25 Jan 1916.

Wendy

OK, thanks Wendy- not seeing Sarah Holsebrook daughter of George, but glad you were able to sort it even if it was just to eliminate from your family.

I haven't really had much time to look around today, but I find it interesting that she changed to Howe surname. Her daughter Emmeline seems to have been also registered with Howe surname.