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Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	19 Jan 2017 21:55
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	I am trying to find Lucy Sophia Wingfield, all I found is she was born 1841 and then married in 1859, I have looked on GRO and found her mother as being Jackson, but found no marriage for Wingfield and Jackson.. Haven't found Lucy in the 1851 census at all. Appreciate if anyone has any ideas please
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	19 Jan 2017 22:15
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	For an idea of place - Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: WINGFIELD, LUCY SOPHIA JACKSON Order GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in SAINT JAMES WESTMINSTER Volume 01 Page 102 MMN Jackson, but if she had been married previously you wouldn't be looking for a Wingfield/Jackson marriage ----------------------------------- England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription First name(s) LUCY SOPHIA Last name WINGFIELD Birth year 1841 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's last name - District ST. JAMES WESTMINSTER County London Country England Volume 1 Page 102
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	19 Jan 2017 22:26
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	The marriage you say is hers gives her Father as William a Labourer. Kent Marriages Transcription First name(s) Lucy Sophia Last name Wingfield Birth year 1837 Marriage year 1859 Marriage year as transcribed 1859 Marriage date 15 Oct 1859 Church Holy Trinity Marriage place East Peckham, Holy Trinity Spouse's first name(s) William Spouse's last name Richards Groom's first name William Groom's last name Richards Groom's birth year 1834 Groom's age 25 Groom's marital status Bachelor Groom's occupation Labourer Groom's residence Little Mill Groom's father's name William Groom's father's occupation Millwright Bride's first name Lucy Sophia Bride's last name Wingfield Bride's birth year 1837 Bride's age 22 Bride's marital status Spinster Bride's residence Little Mill Bride's father's name William Bride's father's occupation Labourer Banns or licence Banns County Kent Record source East Peckham, Holy Trinity marriages 1843-1947 Record set Kent Marriages Category -------------------------------- England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription First name(s) LUCY SOPHIA Last name WINGFIELD Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1859 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ LUCY SOPHIA WINGFIELD married one of these people WILLIAM RICHARDS, DENIS CRONIN, DENIS CROMIN District MALLING District number - County Kent Country England Volume 2A Page 585
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	19 Jan 2017 22:41
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Possible children Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: RICHARDS, ELIZA SOPHIA WINKFIELD Order GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in TONBRIDGE Volume 02A Page 407 RICHARDS, WILLIAM JOHN WINGFIELD Order GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in TONBRIDGE Volume 02A Page 499 RICHARDS, JANE WINGFIELD GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 211 Order RICHARDS, ELIZABETH WINGFIELD GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 197 Order Not seeing another Richards/Wingfield marriage around the time
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	19 Jan 2017 22:46
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	?? Family in 1871 - Lucy a little older than birth registration 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Napier Road, Croydon, Surrey, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Richards Head - Male 40 1831 - LAbourer Ewell, Surrey, England Lucy Richards Wife - Female 32 1839 - Westminster, Middlesex, England Lizzie Richards Daughter - Female 11 1860 - (?Hadlow), Kent, England William Richards Son - Male 7 1864 - Tunbridge, Kent, England Jane Richards Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Croydon, Surrey, England Original reads Headlow, but there is a Hadlow near Tunbridge
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	19 Jan 2017 22:50
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	Many thanks GG, I see on the marriage it states her birth date as 1837 not 1841. I see her father was called William .Such a confusing family because the daughter of William and Lucy Richards called herself Richardson, she had 4 children surnames of Lear yet she didn't live with him and still called herself Richardson, so had a problem finding her. Maybe a few white lies at times.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	19 Jan 2017 22:55
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	She maybe told a little white lie about her age for the marriage as she would only have been 18 and would have needed parents permission. Also made her a bit closer to the groom's age!! Maybe Dad was fictitious too ....... or if he had died and her Mother had remarried she may be sitting on the census with the surname of her step dad.
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	19 Jan 2017 22:59
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	Meant to say their daughter who called herself Richardson was Daisy, born Croydon 1883
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 12,081 Send Message	Andrew	Report	19 Jan 2017 23:12
	Just looking at this marriage London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Sophia Wingfield Spouse: William Williams Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 26 Dec 1841 Parish: St James, Paddington Borough: Westminster Father Name: Thomas Wingfield Spouse Father: John Williams Register Type: Parish Register Andy
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	19 Jan 2017 23:21
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Image of that marriage is on Ancestry Both of full age William Williams Bachelor. Harness Maker. Of North Wharf Road. Father John is a Saddler. Signed. Sophia Wingfield Spinster, Of North Wharf Road. Father Thomas Wingfield a Labourer. Made her Mark. Witnesses Thomas Wells and Sarah (?Drysdale) - both signed
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	20 Jan 2017 03:27
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	The marriage of Lucy Sophia Wingfield to William Richards feel sure is the right one, Malling is not all that far away from Hadlow or Tunbridge.where the first 2 children were born. Looking at the 1871 census I see that Lucy stated she was born 1839 Westminster.. Unsure if the marriage of William Williams and Sophia Wingfield are her parents. It certainly said on the GRO that her mother was Jackson. I have seen there was a Sophia Wingfield born in Gravesend, now here is where there could possibly be a twist because Daisy the daughter of William and Lucy Richards came to live in Gravesend, States on all the census's for her born in Croydon, perhaps they were distant family.
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	2 Aug 2017 23:50
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	I need more help please regarding the Richards, I have now found the family of William Richards who married Lucy Sophia Wingfield. His father was William Richards and I found the baptism for William in 1830 Ewell and it states his parents William and Jane Richards occ of William mill wright, this ties up with the occ given on marriage of William and Lucy in 1859 Malling. I am unable to find a birth or death of William senior, in 1841 he had died because given on census Jane his wife being a widow, also on that census William junior was not in the household. but he was on the 1851 and his youngest brother Henry being born in 1841 . Obviously William their father must have died around 1841 but unable to find a death in Epsom or Ewell, Because he had died by the 1st census came out I am unable to find when he was born. Any help on this one will be appreciated
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	3 Aug 2017 11:20
	William Richards mentioned in the record of William Richards and Jane Carter Name William Richards Spouse's Name Jane Carter Event Date 27 Dec 1825 Event Place Epsom,Surrey,England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	3 Aug 2017 13:11
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	1851 for ref. 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Lower Common, Ewell, Epsom, Surrey, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Jane Richards Head W Female 43 1808 Millwrights Widow Ewell, Surrey, England Transcription William Richards Son Unmarried Male 21 1830 Agr Lab Ewell, Surrey, England Transcription Mary Ann Marsh Daughter Married Female 19 1832 - Ewell, Surrey, England Transcription John Richards Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Agr Lab Ewell, Surrey, England Transcription George Richards Son Unmarried Male 13 1838 Agr Lab Ewell, Surrey, England Transcription Henry Richards Son Unmarried Male 10 1841 Agr Lab Ewell, Surrey, England Transcription William Marsh Son In Law Married Male 26 1825 Agr Lab England Transcription William Etherington Lodger Unmarried Male 27 1824 Agr Lab England Transcription Mary Ann Marsh Grand Daur - Female - - - Long Ditton, Surrey, England and 1841 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Kingston Road, Ewell, Epsom, Surrey, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Jane Richards Female 30 1811 Surrey, England Transcription Mary Richards Female 9 1832 Surrey, England Transcription John Richards Male 7 1834 Surrey, England Transcription George Richards Male 2 1839 Surrey, England Transcription John Weller Male 50 1791 Surrey, England Transcription Henry Worsfold Male 15 1826 Surrey, England

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