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Hannah

Hannah Report 29 Dec 2016 19:25

We still cant seem to see a birth for Mary Theresa?

Hannah

Hannah Report 29 Dec 2016 11:01

Yes hair dresser

Mary

Mary Report 29 Dec 2016 10:57

From a copy of birth cert on ancestry tree
Adam 1844 son of James a hairdresser of 137,Church Street Preston.

Maryb.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Dec 2016 08:40

That was Maiden Name of his Mother...

Looks like his Grandfather Adam was Pawnbroker, James Stephenson took over after Death of Adam Braithwaite 1849, perhaps)

Chris :)

What was occupation/address on that 1844 Birth...

Hannah

Hannah Report 29 Dec 2016 08:32

So Adam was calling himself Braithwaite?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Dec 2016 07:13

What was Occupation of James on that 1844 Birth?...

(another also)

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1846

STEPHENSON John (BRAITHWAITE) Preston Preston PRES/39/11


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1844

STEPHENSON Adam (BRAITHWAITE) Preston Preston PRES/29/12

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Chris :)

(saw below also)

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1840

STEPHENSON James BRAITHWAITE Ann Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston


1851 (Find My Past)
James Stephenson Head Married Male 32 1819 Pawnbroker Master Preston, Lancashire, England
Ann Stephenson Wife Married Female 40 1811 Domestic Employment Preston, Lancashire, England
Adam Stephenson Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Preston, Lancashire, England
John Stephenson Son - Male 4 1847 Scholar Preston, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Stephenson Daughter - Female 2 1849 Scholar Preston, Lancashire, England
Street Church Street
Parish Preston
City Preston
County Lancashire
Parliamentary borough Preston
Municipal ward St Johns Ward
Registration district Preston
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 2265
Folio 353
Page 5


1841 (Find My Past)
Adam Braithwaite Male 59 1782 (Pawn broker)
James Stephenson Male 22 1819 Lancashire, England (Hair dresser)
Ann Stephenson Female 30 1811 Lancashire, England
Street Church Street
Parish or township Preston
City or borough Preston
Town Preston
County Lancashire
Registration district Preston
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 498
Book number 8
Folio number 40
Page number 24


1861 (Find My Past)
James Stephenson Head Married Male 42 1819 House Proprietor Preston, Lancashire, England
Ann Stephenson Wife - Female 49 1812 - Preston, Lancashire, England
Adam Stephenson Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Professor Preston, Lancashire, England (on image says No Profession)
John Stephenson Son - Male 14 1847 Scholar Preston, Lancashire, England
Street Peel Terrace
Parish Preston
City or borough Preston
County Lancashire
Municipal ward Trinity
Parliamentary borough Preston
Ecclesiastical district St Lukes
Registration district Preston
Enumeration district 60
Archive reference RG09
Piece number 3139
Folio number 107
Page number 6


Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1861

STEPHENSON Ann 51 Preston Preston PRES/92/86


Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1849

BRAITHWAITE Adam 69 Preston Preston PRES/38/4


13 January 1849 - Preston Chronicle - Preston, Lancashire, England

Death
Yesterday week, suddenly, Mr. Adam Braithwaite, pawnbroker, Church-street, aged 69


Going back to James Stephenson 1871, Lancaster Road (posted earlier)...

(below looks to be stepson)

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1853

LUER Henry WOODS Alston Preston ALST/5/39


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1848

LUER John WOODS Ellen Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 29 Dec 2016 06:19

Good spot on that marriage Tiggit- but looking at the information posted by Chris it doesn't appear to be the correct man. He appears in Stockport with his wife Elizabeth Clarke in 1871- listed as born in Bolton.

The 1863 article is a nice find!

Hannah- death was posted by Dea earlier:

Deaths Mar 1876 (>99%)
Stephenson Adam 32 Preston 8e 450

Hannah

Hannah Report 28 Dec 2016 22:40

Guys I just found an old birth certificate that I ordered years ago, rooting around in the loft!
Don't know if this helps?
Adam Stephenson born 23rd October 1844, Preston. Father James Stephenson. Mother Alice nee braithwaite.
I'm getting more and more confused!

Hannah

Hannah Report 28 Dec 2016 22:25

Thanks guys.
I'm totally confused! Haha!
Which Adam death certificate should I order? I will see if that tells me any more!

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Dec 2016 17:00

(for Stockport reference, if them)

Chris :)

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1866 to 1870

STEPHENSON Adam CLARKE Elizabeth Norbury (Hazel Grove), St Thomas

(could also be on FMP Cheshire)


(no idea if below related)

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1868

STEPHENSON James Albert (CLARKE) Heaton Norris Stockport HEA/38/19


Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1870

STEVENSON Eliza (CLARKE) Heaton Norris Stockport HEA/40/89


Edits ?

1871 (Find My Past)
Martha Clarke Head - Female 62 1809 - Cheshire, England
Nathaniel Clarke Son - Male 27 1844 - Lancashire, England
James Clarke Son - Male 19 1852 - Cheshire, England
Emma Slate Daughter - Female 28 1843 - Lancashire, England
William Slate Grandson - Male 5 1866 - Cheshire, England
Adam Stevenson Son-In-Law - Male 23 1848 - Lancashire, England (Iron Roller Turner)
Elizabeth Stevenson Daughter - Female 23 1848 - Lancashire, England
James Stevenson Grandson - Male 2 1869 - Lancashire, England
Eliza Stevenson Granddaughter - Female 0 1871 - Lancashire, England
Street Astley Street
Parish Heaton Norris
City Stockport
County Cheshire
Registration district Stockport
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 3657
Folio 69
Page 21


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/records_office/thread/1126538


https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/24844/page/3048/data.pdf

(James Stephenson, Pawnbroker, Lancaster Road)


14 November 1863 - Preston Herald - Preston, Lancashire, England

PRESTON POLICE INTELLIGENCE
Theft from a Father.—Adam Stevenson, on remand from Saturday, was again brought up on the charge of stealing three pairs of boots belonging to his father, who is a pawnbroker in lancaster-road.—The prisoner had taken the boots from the shop at various times.
He pleaded guilty to the charge, and although his father recommended him to mercy, was sentenced to three months imprisonment, having been before charged with a similar offence, and discharged on the request of Mr. Stevenson.

Dea

Dea Report 28 Dec 2016 16:39

Well done Tiggit, you new little wonder !!!!!

He didn't waste much time did he ???

Dea x

Kayak

Kayak Report 28 Dec 2016 15:53

Marriage:??????????


Marriages Sep 1867

CLARKE Elizabeth Stockport 8a 79 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Godward Harriet Stockport 8a 79
Poole John Stockport 8a 79
Stephenson Adam Stockport 8a 79 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,

malyon

malyon Report 28 Dec 2016 15:43

this might be Mary's death

Deaths Dec 1931   (>99%)

Norcross
 Mary T
 62
 Manchester S.
 8d
222

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 28 Dec 2016 07:44

Mary Theresa remarried in 1911 to Edward Norcross

Edward's WW1 service record:

Name: Edward Norcross
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1876
Enlistment Age: 41
Marriage Date: 2 Sep 1911
Marriage Place: Bolton
Document Year: 1917
Residence Place: 7 Dilworth Bottoms, Longridge Nr Preston
Regimental Number: 35755
Regiment Name: Labour Corps
Number of Images: 15
Form Title: Record of Service
Name Relation to Soldier
Edward Norcross Self (Head)
Mary Teresa Stephenson Spouse
------------------------------------------

If this were my family I'd buy the death certificate of Adam Stephenson to see who registered the death.

This is likely him in 1871 but I don't see a corresponding marriage, or Elizabeth after 1871.

Name: Adam Stephenson
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Stephenson
Gender: Male
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 45
Piece: 4204 Folio: 71 Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Adam Stephenson 27 Hawker
Elizabeth Stephenson 32 Rawtenstall

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 28 Dec 2016 06:15

Hannah, it's unlikely to be the 1867 birth you posted above as there is a likely death for that child in 1871.

Malyon- if this is Mary in 1911, then I doubt that 1903 marriage is correct:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bottoms Longridge, Dilworth, Lancashire, England

Mary Theresa Bradshaw Wife Widow Female - 43 1868 Preston
John W Bradshaw Son Single Male Cotton Mill Weaver 19 1892 Bottoms
Joseph Bradshaw Son Single Male Cotton Mill Weaver 15 1896 Bottoms
Bertie Bradshaw Son Single Male School 11 1900 Bottoms
William Pope Boarder Single Male Bobbin Mill Labourer 22 1889 Dutton

Hannah

Hannah Report 27 Dec 2016 23:00

looks like she did Malyon!

malyon

malyon Report 27 Dec 2016 22:43

did mary marry again

Marriages Dec 1903   (>99%)

BRADSHAW
 Mary Theresa
 
 Preston
 8e
954

malyon

malyon Report 27 Dec 2016 22:32

this is the son Robert bradshaw

BRADSHAW, ROBERT    
STEVENSON  

GRO Reference: 1892  D Quarter in PRESTON  

malyon

malyon Report 27 Dec 2016 22:20

James Bradshaw
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name
James Bradshaw
Event Type
Census
Event Date
31 Mar 1901
Event Place
Dilworth, Lancashire, England
County
Lancashire
Civil Parish
Dilworth
Ecclesiastical Parish
Longridge St Lawrecne
Sub-District
Alston
Registration District
Preston
Residence Note
Bottaurs
Gender
Male
Age
54
Occupation
WOOD SAWYER
Relationship to Head of Household
Head
Birth Year (Estimated)
1847
Birthplace
Dilworth, Lancashire
Schedule Type
61
Page Number
9
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
James Bradshaw
Head
M
54
Dilworth, Lancashire
Mary T Bradshaw
Wife
F
34
Preston, Lancashire
James Bradshaw
Son
M
21
Ribchester, Lancashire
George Bradshaw
Son
M
11
Dilworth, Lancashire
John Wm Bradshaw
Son
M
10
Dilworth, Lancashire
Robert Bradshaw
Son
M
8
Dilworth, Lancashire
Joseph Bradshaw
Son
M
6
Dilworth, Lancashire
Bertie Bradshaw
Son
M
1
Dilworth, Lancashire

PatW

PatW Report 27 Dec 2016 20:42

Hi there. If you look in search at the top right hand corner you can move down to other peoples trees and if you click on that then put in the particulars of James Bradshaw you will find that John Blackman has a James born in Dilworth 1847. Maybe he could help.
Pat