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Thank you, I was looking for them in Norfolk no wonder I couldn't find them if they married in York

Going back to the original post

Here's my ggg grandparents and my gg grandparents. Note my ggg aunt is double counted

1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/218 Place: Longside -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Longside Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 176 Page: 21 Schedule: 100
Address: Hill Of Mintlaw
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SLESSOR William Head M M 66 Farmer Of 15 Acres & Carrier Aberdeenshire - Longside
SLESSOR Christian Wife M F 52 Aberdeenshire - Old Deer
SLESSOR Mary Dau U F 26 Aberdeenshire - Longside
Page: 176/22 SLESSOR John D Son U M 17 Farmer & Carrier's Son Aberdeenshire - Longside
GREIG Christian Grndau - F 2 Aberdeenshire - Longside

1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/218 Place: Longside -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Longside Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 176 Page: 10 Schedule: 52
Address: South Street, Mintlaw
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GREIG John Head M M 32 Farm Servant Aberdeenshire - Fraserburgh
GREIG Margaret Wife M F 23 Aberdeenshire - Longside
GREIG Christian Dau - F 2 Aberdeenshire - Longside
GREIG William Son - M 6m Aberdeenshire - Longside


I would guess the census forms were dropped off on the Wed or Thurs. They were to be filled out to reflect the situation on the Sunday at midnight, to be collected on the Monday.
Of course, some folk needed help filling them out, so they would probably get help from the enumerator on Mon., but many would fill them out in advance, and not always on the same day.
It's easy to imagine unexpected changes in the sleeping arrangements, and folk forgetting to amend the completed forms to reflect this.

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Under English common law, all that was necessary to effect a legal change of name is that you start using your new name, and this not be done with any fraudulent purpose.
In the case of minors (i.e., under 21s), the naming decision rests with the parent or guardian.
Note that naming a child has nothing to do with registering the child's birth.
One was legally required in 1883 to rego a birth. One was not required to name the child, e.g.,
Births Mar 1882 (>99%)
Williams Female Lambeth 1d 489

nor does a pre-1969 b.cert actually give the child's surname.
The surname in the index is inferred from the surname of the father, or in the case of unwed parents with difft surnames both appearing on the b.cert, then there will be an entry for each in the GRO index.
Compare this index entry:
Births Dec 1874 (>99%)
Churchill Winston Leonard Woodstock 3a 695
with the actual b.cert on page 16 (of 24) at:
http://tinyurl.com/lrk36xp

My grandad changed his name - he added Younger (his mum's maiden surname)
Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
Baldwin James Edward Gateshead 10a 888

Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)
Baldwin James E Y Newcastle T. 10b 54

There was no paperwork - he just did it.
There was very little need for paperwork - the only thing in his old name was his tinsmith journeyman's ticket

Nowadays, one has more things in one's old name - G.C.E.'s, B.Sc.'s, driver's licence, bank accounts, etc., and people want to see a bit of paper.
The cheapest was to put an ad in the local paper, and xerox it multiple times.
The most widely known was to make a contract with oneself, and put a witnessed signature on it - i.e., a deed poll. One could register this, but this was rarely done - mostly one just shoved it in a desk drawer.

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Now jumping to the immediately previous post

Using http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/c

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1846
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CLAXTON James GROOM Betsy St Denys, York York SDEN/1/155

John,

Searching free bmd from 1841 to 1861 gives the marriage for James Claxton to Bets*
as the one that AustinQ has found and the only one that meets those criteria, so would have been a good place to start:

Marriages Jun 1846
Claxton James York 23 661
Groom Betsy York 23 661

and the 1851 census (at a quick look) gives his daughter Sarah as born in York.

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) James
Last name Claxton
Age 22
Marriage year 1846
Marriage date 31 May 1846
Marriage place York
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Claxton
Spouse's first name(s) Betsy
Spouse's last name Groom
Spouse's age 20
Spouse's birth year 1826
Spouse's birth date 1826
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's father's last name Groom
County Yorkshire

Need help again please regarding the Claxtons. I am unable to find a marriage for James Parker Claxton who married Betsy possibly Groom, I believe it could be as early as 1847, in Norfolk area

Hi Chris Ho:)

Next step now completed.

Thanks again
Tiggit

Found another problem. The 2 sons of John Thomas Claxton and 1st wife Fanny Frances Butcher were both living with different grandparents in 1881. Eldest John Thomas Claxton with his Claxton grandparents living in Kent ,the youngest Edward Charles Claxton living with his Butcher grandparents in Essex. 1881 Their father John Thomas Claxton living in Lambeth with Catherine Claxton states wife but he didn't marry her until 1894. Found no death of his wife Fanny nor have I found her in the 1881 census so where could she be. Presume James Claxton was the same one who deserted the army in 1876 before his youngest son Edward Charles was born .

Having looked at the 1901 I found that Katie Claxton 18 Domestic servant was living with a Jane Evans age 68 Own means at 3 Christ Church Road, the same address as on her marriage to Harry William Plaw, so she was not with her parents .

Many thanks Tiggit for the marriage Certs it's a great help.

(next step Tiggit, you now need to go back and remove both long posting ones, replace with new tiny links)

Page layout should then be 'normal' (if there is ever a 'normal' for ol' GR that is, lol)

Chris :)

Ok, thanks for the link Chris, I'll try to remember to use it in future.

looks ok from here Tiggit...

Chris :)

(there was Baptisms James Parker Claxton, and James Thomas Claxton, Brancaster, Norfolk, on below, if they related)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Hi,
Just trying out Chris Ho:)'s link. Please can someone let me know if the links below work.

Thanks, Tiggit


http://tinyurl.com/zsdej74

http://tinyurl.com/z9ll2jd

http://tinyurl.com/

(above comes in useful for 'shortening')

Chris :)

(can remember some Members used to have long 'Board Names', that did it too!)

Patchem

You tell him you are NOT talking rubbish.

Page 1 here is fine for me, but I wondered what had happened on page 2,until I saw the long link.

Tiggit,

Your link works but it sends my page into extra-wide view.

Could you do a shrink-link in future?

My husband says I am talking rubbish, and it has nothing to do with the length of your link, so if no-one else complains just ignore me.

Many of the Gravesend/Northfleet/Milton and surrounding parishes have been transcribed on to
http://freereg2.freereg.org.uk/

Look to see if 'events' are recorded on that, then use the info - date, parish, record number - to find the image on http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/
Click on the Parish Registers online to the left of the page.

Just in case you haven't already got the marriage certificate for Katie Claxton and Harry William Plaw ( top image on the right hand side)

http://tinyurl.com/zsdej74

This loooks like Benjamin Butcher and family in the 1881 census


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Name: Benjamin Butcher
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary Butcher
Gender: Male
Where born: Maldon, Essex, England
Civil Parish: West Tilbury
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: Cottage
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Agri Lab
Registration district: Orsett
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1754
Folio: 41
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Butcher 45
Mary Butcher 44
Edward Butcher 21
William Butcher 12
John Butcher 11
Mary Ann Butcher 10
Joseph Butcher 8
Charles Butcher 5
Annie Butcher 3
Edward Clayton 4<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<WITH GRANDSON EDWARD CLAXTON RECORDED AS EDWARD CLAYTON

Great find on that marriage cert image Tiggit.

On the certificate note that Benjamin (witness) is down as Butchard, which is then corrected. (and maiden name on James Thomas (1875) was Butchard.)

James Thomas is a moulder which fits with his occupation on the 1871, and his father is an Engin (eer)? and on the 1871 he was an engine fitter. So all seems to fit.