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Plaw/Claxton
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John | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:11 |
I am rather confused, can someone be registered as being in two different places . Re 1911 census I have Katie Plaw being in Gravesend Kent with her husband and family, yet she is also registered as being Katie Claxton her maiden name as being in Grays Essex.. with her parents. Also have a problem with the parents of Katie Claxton, it appeared that they didn't marry until 1894 , yet Katie Claxton b 1883 and brother James Claxton b 1891. Found both on Freebmd with the name Claxton, and their mother was Williams. I found the banns for James Thomas Claxton and Catherine Williams, states batchelor and spinster, which I find so odd that they married 10 years after Katie was born yet she had the official name of Claxton. Surely it would be unusual for a couple to live together in those days if both single. Any ideas please. |
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+++DetEcTive+++ | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:18 |
Single people would live together as man and wife regardless of the era. We've all probably have examples in our trees where they didn't bother to make if official until many years later. Both were free to marry. Perhaps in your case, one set of parents didn't 'approve'? |
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+++DetEcTive+++ | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:24 |
for our benefit |
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John | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:25 |
Thank you Detective, I did wonder. Just that there were 2 Catherine Williams born 1883 St Just Cornwall and I found a Catherine Williams born St Just who married a William Williams and they had children so wondered if she could possibly left the family and went to live in London then married James T Claxton |
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AustinQ | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:27 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription |
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AustinQ | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:29 |
A tree on Ancestry has James previously married: I don't know how accurate it is |
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+++DetEcTive+++ | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:30 |
Could this have something to do with the delayed marriage? |
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John | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:31 |
I know I will have to get the marriage certificate of James T Claxton and Catherine Williams to find who the parents are of Catherine Williams. Apparently there are 2 St Justs in different areas of Cornwall. |
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Dea | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:34 |
Well, this looks like Harry William on 1939 and he is with a 'Blanche' : |
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John | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:39 |
I had found the desertion and dismissed him, never thought of the delay of a marriage. I had also wondered Austin about the marriage of James T Claxton to Fanny Butcher in 1874 but kind of dismissed it when I found Kate Claxton his daughter had Williams as her mother. Just thought James could have left Fanny and went to live in London with Catherine Williams. The mind boggles |
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AustinQ | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:41 |
There was a possible child to the 1874 marriage- but I don't see him on the census: |
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John | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:45 |
Dea, that could possibly be a 2nd marriage for Harry William Plaw, because Katie Plaw died in 1920 |
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John | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:52 |
Austin, now that's a coincidence because James Thomas Claxton lived at some time over in Grays Essex Orsett being the district. Perhaps he was married before, wasn't divorced so but himself down as being a batchelor in the marriage to Catherine Williams |
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AustinQ | Report | 10 Dec 2016 12:55 |
As I can't see Fanny or son Edward, I think it's likely. |
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John | Report | 10 Dec 2016 13:11 |
Yes think you may be right, possibly Catherine was also married, as finding one being married to a William Williams and being born in St Just, know women do leave home and leave their children behind. |
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AustinQ | Report | 10 Dec 2016 13:19 |
Interesting that James' parents have a grandson, James Thomas Claxton, living with them in 1881- I think this is likely another son of James Thomas and his first wife Fanny. |
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AustinQ | Report | 10 Dec 2016 13:25 |
If this is the Catherine you mean I don't think she's connected to your Catherine. |
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John | Report | 10 Dec 2016 13:28 |
Just looking at all the above posts, here is a possibility, James Thomas Claxton came down from Norfolk , joined the Army in Kent, married Fanny Butcher in Gravesend in 1974, could have been stationed at the Barracks in Gravesend. James deserted in Feb 1976 by this time Fanny was having a baby, which was born in Orsett late 1976 who was baptised over in Tilbury in 1877, the father was named but not present because he was on the run. James eventually went to London and met Catherine, couldn't marry her straight away because he was still married to Fanny. Wow this could be the case |
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AustinQ | Report | 10 Dec 2016 13:31 |
I think if you ordered the birth cert for James Thomas Claxton b1875 (maiden name Butchard), I think this would confirm James and Fanny as parents. |
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John | Report | 10 Dec 2016 13:41 |
Just seen the post of James Clayton and Catherine Clayton, living in Lambeth now that was before Katie and James were born in Lambeth, obviously they couldn't have been married just living together in 1881. |