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Margaret the surname was Liddiard

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915

Name James Liddeaird
Estimated Birth Year abt 1860
Registration Year 1898
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death 38
Registration district Easthampstead
Parishes for this Registration District Easthampstead
Inferred County Berkshire
Volume 2c
Page 261

Jacquiel, the document you found where they were both servants in Pimlico, was that James' baptism or is there another document?

Is that 1861 posted the right Census then?, got confused a bit!...

Looking at previous page is Eliza Langham (36) Tailors wife...Essex. Gt. Dunmow.

(is she one of many at 'Running Horse' Beer Shop & Lodging House)

Chris :)

(any sight of Benjamin Liddiard 1861?)

Apologies haven't had internet today.

AustinQ no other document, was passed on by a lady in England who advised me that James Langham Snr was working as a potman at the Kings Arms in Pimlico in the 1861 census.

Chris No I haven't located him in the 1961 census as yet. I have him in the 1841, 1851, 1871 and 1881.

Appreciate all the help, this really is proving to be a major brickwall

Jacquie :) :-0

This could be the James Langham in 1861 Census....the address is Great Cottage St, Kings Arms and James is a Potman. How did she know that this was the right James Langham?

Name: James Langham
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: 1822
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Westminster St John the Evangelist
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 48
Folio: 2
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hockley 46
Jane Hockley 39
Rosina Hockley 21
Joseph Hockley 16
Elizabeth Robinson 18
Robert Robinson 16
Harriet Purscell 47
>>>>James Langham 39

(oh, lol, was just looking for below 1861)

Chris :)

KING'S ARMS, Pimlico.-Now No. 68, Ranelagh Road.


06 June 1862 - Morning Advertiser - London, London, England

Wanted
Good IN-DOOR POT-MAN, one whose character will bear the strictest Investigation. Apply the King’s Arms, Ranelagh-road, Pimlico, between ten and eleven p.m.

(wondering about below for newspapers, coming up on google, not found yet!, London Evening Standard, if AQ has more time than me)

Edits (looks to belong to a name Sly, H.J.L, but 1851)

Chris :)

London, England - Genes Reunited

www.genesreunited.co.uk/searchbna/results?memberlastsubclass...
... London, England. 16 Jan 1861 .... THk EVENING STANDARD, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 10, 1861, ... J. L , king's Arms, Great College-st,, Westminster.


Edits (as below google William Hockley, they have Longham, instead of Langham)

http://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/WestminsterStJohn/KingsArmsCollege.shtml

Same kind of advert from The Morning Advertiser 09 Aug 1860

Wanted, a Potman. Apply King's Arms, College Street, Westminster, between ten and eleven o'clock today. None need apply without a good character.



Think this is the King's Arms in the 1861 Census.

Londonbelle thank you for the information, my lady Christine said that she wasn't sure this was the right James Langham. She hasn't been able to find anything else on a James Langham because we have so little information on him, I can honestly say I have no idea where he came from at all which is why I am at a brick wall.

It is so frustrating without further documentation which I don't know where to find. The baptism gives very little information other than the names and the birth certificate only has Mary's name on it.

thank you all
Jacquie