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Would help if Shirley could get back to us with details of that birth certificate.

Birth date on Mary's death certificate was 19 June 1859- let's hope we have a match.

I see that this has advanced well. I saw the possible Laity connection last night but just too tired to follow up.

I see someone else also thought that Amy could very well be Mary, wouldn't be the first time that happens.

Well done everyone.

(ah!, thankyou AQ)

Chris :)

http://www.findagrave.com/

(above has Laity)

Chris- the 1917 marriage is for their son:

First name(s) Edwin C
Last name Laity
Sex Male
Age 29
Birth year 1888
Father's first name(s) Edwine
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name Bevan
Event Marriage
Year 1917
Event date 28 Apr 1917
County Luzerne
State Pennsylvania
Country United States
Spouse's first name(s) Anna
Spouse's last name Bacho
Spouse's sex Female
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's birth year 1896
Spouse's father's first name(s) Andrew
Spouse's mother's first name(s) Anna
Spouse's mother's last name Parnahay

Shirley, could you give us Amy's exact date of birth please from that cert?

Dea x

(below from google search, if them)

http://holley.whiskeybay.net/report/fam925.html

Chris :)

Baptism
Day Month 07-May
Year 1856
Parish Or Reg District Helston
Forename Edwin Charles
Surname LAITY
Sex Son
Father Forename George
Mother Forename Eliza
Residence Church St.
Father Rank Profession mason


Day Month 16-Feb
Year 1852
Parish Or Reg District Sithney
Groom Fn George
Groom Sn LAITY
Groom Age 21
Groom Residence Sithney
Groom Condition Bachelor
Groom Rank Profession Mason
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) M
Groom Father Name George
Groom Father Rank Profession Mason
Bride Fn Eliza
Bride Sn JEFFERY
Bride Age 21
Bride Residence Sithney
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Bride Father Name John
Bride Father Rank Profession Labourer
Banns / Licence (B/L) B
Witness Fn1 Thos.
Witness Sn1 Russell
Witness Fn2 Mary
Witness Sn2 Harris

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/


Edits (although according to (United States Marriages Transcription. FMP) Marriage to Mary Bevan, 1917 April 27. Luzerne, Penn.)


(if Nephew on 1910, travelling with William Laity (24) Stone Mason)

LAITY JOHN 1891 — 1904 Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 (Ship Name, Philadelphia)


(looking at All New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 (Ancestry) below are with them)

Edwin Laity
3 Sep 1904 abt 1857 Southampton English Philadelphia

Mary Laity
3 Sep 1904 abt 1859


http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/extra-searches/emigration/

(also on above)

1900 United States Federal Census

Name: Mary Laytey
Age: 40
Birth Date: Jun 1859
Birthplace: England
Home in 1900: Edwardsville, Luzerne, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1886
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Edward Laytey
Marriage Year: 1886 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Years Married: 14
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 3
Mother: How many children: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Laytey 43 England (year of immigration 1880)
Mary Laytey 40 England (year of immigration 1886)
John Laytey 15 son England (year of immigration 1886)
Edwin Laytey 13 Pennsylvania
George Laytey 9 Pannsylvania

1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Mary Laity
Age in 1910: 50
Birth Year: abt 1860
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Edwardsville Ward 6, Luzerne, Pennsylvania
Street: Arch Street
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1885 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Edward Laity
Father's Birthplace: Wales
Mother's Birthplace: Wales
Native Tongue: English
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 24
Number of Children Born: 17
Number of Children Living: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Laity 52
Mary Laity 50
Edward Laity 22
John Laity 18 Nephew, b England

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Mary Laity
Age: 60
Birth Year: abt 1860
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Edwardsville Ward 6, Luzerne, Pennsylvania
Street: Arch Street
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1886 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Edwin Laity
Father's Birthplace: Wales
Mother's Birthplace: Wales
Native Tongue: English
Able to Speak English: Yes
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Laity 62
Mary Laity 60
Edwin C Laity 32
Anna Laity 21
George Laity 7
James Laity 6
David J Laity 2
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1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Mary La?Ty
[Mary Laity]
Birth Year: abt 1859
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Wales
Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Head
Homemaker?: Yes
Home in 1930: Edwardsville, Luzerne, Pennsylvania
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Arch Street
Ward of City: 6th Ward
House Number in Cities or Towns: 50
Dwelling Number: 82
Family Number: 84
Home Owned or Rented: Owned
Home Value: 6000
Radio Set: Yes
Lives on Farm: No
Age at First Marriage: 28
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Wales
Mother's Birthplace: Wales
Language Spoken: Welsh
Immigration Year: 1884 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Naturalization: Naturalized
Able to Speak English: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary La?Ty 71 Widow
Edwin La?Ty 40 Pennsylvania
Anna La?Ty 32 Daughter-in-law
George La?Ty 17
David La?Ty 13
Mary La?Ty 5
Edwin La?Ty 4
[4 3/12]
William La?Ty 3
[3 1/12]

Night Sylvia

I'll leave it to you to solve .............. I'm off to bed :-)

Hi Austin ...............

that does look like them in 1881 ....... good find!

and that death looks good for Mary Ann ...............

I wonder if they all emigrated?

Mary's death? Gives birth date:

Name: Mary Laity
[Mary Bevan]
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 88
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1859
Birth Place: Wales
Death Date: 26 Jan 1948
Death Place: Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA
Father: David Bevan
Mother: Mary Powell
Certificate Number: 5094

Morning Syvia- is this her in 1881?

Name: Mary Bevan
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Mary Ann Bevan
Gender: Female
Where born: Sirhowy
Civil Parish: Bedwellty
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 75 Vale Terrace
Occupation: Slag Picker At A Coal Pit
Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 5243 Folio: 115 Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Bevan 51 Widow
Mary Bevan 21 Daughter
Ann Bevan 16 Daughter
Sethamer Powell 83 Father
Mary Ann Morris 17 Lodger
Thomas Price 35 Lodger
Margaret Price 26 Lodger

One Public Family Tree on ancestry suggests that Mary Bevan, b.ca 1860, went to NSW on an Assisted Passage, arriving 22 April 1882

That means she should be on the 1881 Census in the UK, but I haven't yet traced her.

It looks as though the youngest child Ann is out working in 1881 ...........

1881 Census

Name: Ann Bevan
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Bedwellty, Monmouth, Wales
Civil Parish: Gelligaer
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: Tir Bach
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: General Servant
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub registration district: Gelligaer
ED, institution, or vessel: 10

Piece: 5308
Folio: 81
Page Number: 21

John Williams 62 Coal Miner
Martha Williams 61
Daniel Williams 39 Coal Miner
William Williams 28 Coal Miner
Mary Williams 24 Dressmaker
John Williams 22 Coal Miner
David Williams 20 Coal Miner
Ann Bevan 16

They could have changed their minds about her name after registering her, but then not changed the birth registration as they were supposed to do

????

i wonder if when they registered the birth if mary was miss heard as amy

as can't find anything on amy bevan

as a check ................

1871 Census

Name Age
Mary Ann Bevan 43 b.ca 1828, Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
Margaret Bevan 16 b.ca 1855 Bedwellty
Mary Bevan 11 b.ca 1860, Bedwellty
Ann Bevan 6 b.ca 1865, Bedwellty
Stepheniah Powell 78 b.ca 1793, Llancheanted, Brecknockshire, Wales


Bedwellty is in the Registration District Abergavenny