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2 Nov 2016 19:31 |
He's been bugging me for a while. According to the London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911, his dob was 17 Feb 1896 when he was living with his family in Plumstead.
They later moved to Belvedere, Kent.
From details supplied by a Probate Research company, he had 3 children, the eldest being Mary Amelia Taylor.
Using the dob, there is this entry on the 1939 Register, which seems to 'fit'.
Taylor Household (3 People) 9 Lower Newport Road , Aldershot M.B., Hampshire, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Albert Taylor 17 Feb 1896 Male Metal Turner Engineer Married 72 1 Mary Taylor 31 Jul 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Married 72 2 Daniel Murphy (Markwick) 15 May 1914 Male General Labourer Single 72 5 (Daniel Murphy did not have a name change - transcription error)
Mary A hasn't been transcribed but is on the image as being born 1 Feb 1925. The name she died under was Markwick with the name change notation dated 13 Jul 1959.
Can anyone work out what Albert's presumed wife's maiden name was and when/where they married? Also any details for Mary A 1925? Born where? Married who?
The other children named on the Probate research were Albert Maurice and Eileen Joan. They could still be living.
Thank you
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2 Nov 2016 20:06 |
This was the easy one!!
Marriages Dec 1958 (>99%)
MARKWICK Maurice A TAYLOR Surrey S.W. 5g 1375 TAYLOR Mary A MARKWICK Surrey S.W. 5g 1375
The only Mary Amelia Taylor born 1925 that I can see was born in Cork, Ireland?????
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2 Nov 2016 20:08 |
death of Maurice??
Name: Maurice Arthur Markwick Birth Date: 29 Dec 1923 Date of Registration: Feb 2005 Age at Death: 81 Registration district: West Surrey Inferred County: Surrey Register Number: D19J District and Subdistrict: 761/1D Entry Number: 203
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2 Nov 2016 20:17 |
?????????? is this Maurice???
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Maurice Markwick Birth Date: abt 1924 Age: 2/12 Port of Departure: South Africa Arrival Date: 11 Apr 1924 Port of Arrival: Southampton, England Ship Name: Tanganjika Search Ship Database: Search for the Tanganjika in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: Hamburg-American Line
Travelling with ........
Reginald, age 27, Government Servant Clarice, age 28, married Yvonne, age 2,
Address:- 947, Vicarage Road, Leyton, London Country of previous Residence:- Njazaland Intending to live in England
I can't make out the name of the port where they boarded
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2 Nov 2016 20:18 |
Here is Maurice.
Maurice Athur Markwick
in the UK, Foreign and Overseas Registers of British Subjects, 1628-1969
Name: Maurice Athur Markwick Gender: Male Birth Date: 29 Dec 1923 Birth Place: Govt. Hospital, Blantyre, Nyasaland Protectorate Event Type: Birth Father: Reginald Arthur Markwick, British Civil Servant Mother: Clarisse Rose Dubert Piece Description: RG 36: Returns in Africa and Asia, 1895-1965
So surely this must be Mary Amelia. She was married by now though.
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image First name(s) MARY AMELIA Last name TAYLOR Gender Female Last residence country NYASALAND Departure year 1960 Departure day 26 Departure month 11 Departure port LONDON Destination port - Ship name UGANDA Shipping line BRITISH INDIA STEAM NAV.CO.LTD City LONDON Ship destination port BEIRA Ship destination country MOZAMBIQUE
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2 Nov 2016 20:20 |
Two Public Family Trees have ..........
Maurice Arthur Markwick
Birth 29 DEC 1923
Death FEB 2005 • West Surrey
Parents
Reginald Arthur Markwick 1898–1977 Clarissa Dubut 1896–1997
Spouse Mary
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2 Nov 2016 20:23 |
Thanks - I've since found the same marriage, and Mary Amelia'd Probate entry in 2014.
Although there's a possible ER entry for Albert Maurice in the Aldershot area, finding a birth seemed impossible.
If Albert Taylor stayed on in the Army in WW1 (no definate proof he even served!) its possible he was posted to Ireland.
The Mary A Taylor on freeBMD is
Births Jun 1925 (>99%) Taylor Mary A Banwell Clutton 5c 676.
However, I couldn't see a suitable parental marriage or births for her younger siblings :-S
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2 Nov 2016 20:26 |
Name: Maurice Athur Markwick Gender: Male Birth Date: 29 Dec 1923 Birth Place: Blantyre, Nyasaland Photectorate
So that's why he isn't on the normal GRO index. Thanks
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2 Nov 2016 20:38 |
Could be.
The birth Sylvia found
Mary Amelia Last name Taylor Registration year 1925 Registered quarter/year Jan - Mar 1925 Registration district Cork Volume 5 Page 59 Mother's last name (original) - County Cork
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2 Nov 2016 21:31 |
What about this one?
Name: Albert Taylor Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1924 Registration district: Barnet Inferred County: Middlesex Spouse: Mary Murphy Volume Number: 3a Page Number: 582
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2 Nov 2016 21:37 |
Re:- comment that there is no proof that Albert Taylor served in the army, if you take another look at 1939 record it is noted after his occupation:-
S/Sgt ? Royal Artillary No.1416084
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2 Nov 2016 21:45 |
Is this Albert in 1911?
Name: Albert Taylor Age in 1911: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1896 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Plumstead, Kent, England Civil Parish: Erith Search Photos: Search for 'Erith' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: 6 Northumberland Park, Belvedere, Kent Marital Status: Single Occupation: Errand Boy Grocer Registration district: Dartford Registration District Number: 43 Sub-registration district: Erith ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 5 Piece: 3744 Household Members: Name Age Joel Taylor 50 Eliza Taylor 49 Ruby Taylor 18 John Taylor 17 Albert Taylor 15 Arthur Taylor 12 Ivy Taylor 11
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2 Nov 2016 23:18 |
The occupation listed on the 1939 register is 1416084 Staff Sgt. Artificer, Royal Artillery.
Kath. x
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3 Nov 2016 00:39 |
Thanks for the interpretation of the S/Sgt. Mine was that he was in the Reserves. With such a common name, it was impossible to say for sure if he had a WW1 medal card. I'd picked up on the Metal Turner which is the same as or related to all the other Taylor's occupations in the family. That lot were Millwrights, Turners etc.
Yes, the 1911 is correct.
Since his father was Joel, the suggested MC in Barnet might prove one way or the other if Mary was nee Murphy. FreeBmd doesn't show the births of either of the younger siblings with mmn Murphy to 1939 & there is one closed record on the 1939 which might be one of them.
Another Irish birth?
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3 Nov 2016 20:02 |
Just had a quick look at the record for Mary Amelia Taylor's passenger card which alviegal posted yestarday.
The initial search brought up another record for someone of the same name. Married, travelling with a Herbert Taylor b 1915 destination address in Blackpool. That's a shame.
MARY AMELIA Last name TAYLOR Gender Female Birth year 1914 Birth day 10 Birth month 11 Marital status M Occupation HOUSEWIFE Departure year 1956 Departure day 14 Departure month 12 Departure port LONDON Destination port BEIRA Destination BEIRA Country MOZAMBIQUE Destination country MOZAMBIQUE Ship name KENYA Ship master's first name ? Ship master's last name DENINGHAM City LONDON Ship destination port BEIRA Ship destination country MOZAMBIQUE
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4 Nov 2016 08:00 |
Don't know if this is the same man??
The Scotsman 16 March 1929
Air Ministry, March 15, 1929. The names of the undermentioned have been brought to notice by Group. Capt. W. G. S. Mitchell, C.B.E, D.S.O., for distinguished services rendered in connection with the operations in the Protectorate of Aden during the period June-August 1928. ROYAL AIR FORCE. .............................................................. 359069 Aircraftsman 2nd Class (Acting Sergt.) (Pilot) Reginald A. Markwick; ...........
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4 Nov 2016 12:43 |
Thanks Dee
Although I'm not following the Markwicks prior to Maurice's marriage to Mary Amelia, a couple of trees on Ancestry suggest he could be Maurice's father, or related in some other way.
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25 Nov 2017 15:21 |
Bring this forward again.
How do you go about buying an Irish BC, bearing in mind we don’t know the mother’s name?
Mary Amelia Last name Taylor Registration year 1925 Registered quarter/year Jan - Mar 1925 Registration district Cork Volume 5 Page 59 Mother's last name (original) - County Cork
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25 Nov 2017 17:54 |
I have to go out now but will have a look tomorrow- but the Murphy marriage is possible if Mary was born in Ireland. Eileen born 1945 mmn Murphy. Possible marriage to Woodcock and death in 1997 Leicester.
Or do you have the ages of Mary's siblings?
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26 Nov 2017 08:06 |
Working on the presumption that Mary was a Murphy, and looking at the Daniel Murphy in the household-
Daniel was born 15th August 1914 (Transcription of 1939 says May- but original is August)
I think this is his death:
Name: Daniel Joseph Murphy Death Age: 69 Birth Date: 15 Aug 1914 Registration Date: Jul 1984 Registration district: North east Hampshire Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 20 Page: 341 ------------------------
Daniel was born in Cork:
Name DANIEL JOSEPH MURPHY Date of Birth 15 August 1914 Group Registration ID 1145598 SR District/Reg Area Cork Sex Male Father: Maurice Murphy (Chief Stoker RN) Mother: Annie Murphy- formerly Howard Address: 10 Harbour View. --------------------------------------
And this is Mary's birth (matching birth date on 1939 register)- confirming she was a Murphy (Daniel was her Brother)
Name MARY MURPHY Date of Birth 31 July 1902 Group Registration ID 7167348 SR District/Reg Area Cork Sex Female Father: Maurice Murphy- Stoker RN Mother: Annie Murphy- formerly Howard Address: 2 East Hill ---------------------------------
So the 1924 marriage posted by Catherine looks to be correct.
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