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I have suggested to Cheryl that a copy of Kenneth's death certificate would give her information as to who the informant was.

There are so many Kenneth Broadhead marriages - his could be any one of them (or none).

1991 in Leeds; 1982 Huddersfield; 1986 Leeds; 1988 Penrith; 2000 North Yorkshire; as well as the two already mentioned.

Just to add..........Cheryl has informed me that the Broadhead/Witty marriage, is not her Kenneth.

So frustrating. :-|

I sent you a PM Cheryl with all the details.

x

That probably explains why I can't find him.
The dates seem to be correct.
Have you got names for the wife and daughter?
Thank you.

Morning

I have searched the ER on FMP ArgllGran but not had any luck.

Kenneth died in 2003

Kenneth Broadhead in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Kenneth Broadhead
Mother's Maiden Surname: Crowther
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1949
Registration district: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire, Northumberland, Westmorland
Volume Number: 2d
Page Number: 775


Kenneth Broadhead in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Kenneth Broadhead
Birth Date: 14 Sep 1949
Date of Registration: Sep 2003
Age at Death: 54
Registration district: Dewsbury
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register Number: A54C
District and Subdistrict: 088/1A
Entry Number: 150

There is a marriage for a Kenneth Broadhead in Dewsbury 1980.........I have checked that one out and it's not him.

There is a possible marriage 1967 Scarborough to a Witty.

One child was born to that marriage.

If it's the correct Kenneth........the wife and daughter are both on the 2014 ER.......and they are both on Facebook.

I will PM Cheryl the details shortly.

I just want to check out the "Friends List" to see if there is anything to confirm.

No, I was hoping you might make more sense of the ER results than I can, PH!

No worries ArgyllGran

I am more than happy for you to jump on in.


Over to you..........Prickles. :-) x

If that's the right Albert, his sister Helena married in 1921:

Helena Crowther
in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: Helena Crowther
Birth Year: abt 1891
Marriage or Bann Date: 27 Dec 1921
Parish: Hunslet Moor, St Peter, West Yorkshire, England
Spouse: Harry Atkins
Father: George Crowther




and there are the births of several probable offspring:

Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
ATKINS Kathleen Crowther Hunslet 9b 839

Births Sep 1924 (>99%)
Atkins Dorothy Crowther Hunslet 9b 803

Births Dec 1927 (>99%)
Atkins Margaret Crowther Hunslet 9b 619

Births Dec 1929 (>99%)
ATKINS Joyce Crowther Leeds South 9b 646

Births Sep 1931 (>99%)
Atkins Colin G Crowther Leeds South 9b 620

Maybe Albert ??


Albert Crowther
in the 1901 England Census

Name: Albert Crowther
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: George Crowther
Mother: Jemma Crowther
Birth Place: Hunslet, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Hunslet
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Hunslet
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4192
Folio: 14
Page Number: 20
Household schedule number: 138
Household Members:
Name Age
George Crowther 32
Jemma Crowther 34
Helena Crowther 10
Albert Crowther 7

???


Alice Wood
in the 1911 England Census

Name: Alice Wood
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hunslet Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Hunslet
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 16 Grove Rd Hunslet Leeds
Occupation: School
Registration district: Hunslet
Registration District Number: 501
Sub-registration district: Hunslet
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 27122
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Wood 38
Ada Wood 42
Alice Wood 13
Lillian Wood 8
Ada Wood 6
Emily Wood 4
Frederick William Wood 2


Alice Wood
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Alice Wood
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Edwin Wood
Mother: Ada Wood
Birth Place: Hunslet, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Hunslet
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Hunslet
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4191
Folio: 92
Page Number: 29
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Wood 28
Ada Wood 32
Alice Wood 3
Edith E Wood 8/12
John R Smith 24

You say you're interested in the Crowther side.

Do you have a copy of Mary's parents' marriage cert, as posted earlier by PH?
If we knew his father's name we might be able to trace some of the family.



Possibly Alice's birth ???

Alice Wood
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Alice Wood
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Hunslet
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 261

And maybe her death ???

Alice Crowther
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Alice Crowther
Birth Date: 16 Mar 1897
Date of Registration: Apr 1985
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume: 5
Page: 1286

Sorry for jumping in, PH, but I've PM'd Marion's marriage and son's birth details to Cheryl.

Finding them on ER's is another matter, though.

Per 192.com, the husband & son are listed in Wakefield in 2002, but Marion's name's not included, as far as I can see.

Per searchelectoralroll.co.uk, Marion and her husband and son are at that same Wakefield address (or at least the same postcode) - but I don't know when

The son is also listed at a Birmingham address on searchelectoralroll, and possibly at another Wakefield address, but I don't know when.
There are a couple of results for him on 192.com, but not at the Birmingham postcode, and no date.

(I don't have credits on either website.)

They're not at that address in the online BT phonebook.

I have to leave this for now Cheryl......but if I find anything of interest, I will get back to you later.

Prickles x

P.S.........I found a marriage for Marion and a son........will check that out later. x

I will PM you the Electoral Register details for Patrick.

As far as I know,Irvin remarried around 1978 ,I did think I had found Mary remarried to a Michael Osullivan but it was not the right Mary.
I think Patrick is at least a half brother but I am not in contact as I dont know where he is.
I think there is another possible half or full brother Kenneth born in September 1949,but I have not managed to trace him either.
I also found a possibl half sister,Marion Y Broadhead born in 1953 but again I am unsure where she is.

There is a birth after yours for a Patrick

Is he your brother and are you in touch with him?

He appears on the 2014 Electoral Register.

Do you know if Harold married?

I am wondering about this marriage....

??
Harold Crowther in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Harold Crowther
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1945
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County:Yorkshire West Riding
Spouse: Dorothy Whitaker
Volume Number: 9b
Page Number: 673

??

Dorothy Crowther in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Dorothy Crowther
Birth Date: 8 Jan 1929
Date of Registration: Sep 1981
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Wakefield
Inferred County: West Yorkshire
Volume: 5
Page: 1235

If that is her death, she would only have been 16 when she married......possible with her parents permission though.

It might be a good idea for you to purchase a copy of Harold's death cert to find out who the informant was.

If she moved to Wakefield (as this is where Irwin's death is registered), there is a possible listing on the 2014 electoral register.

Or perhaps her death was too recent to show on the indexes:

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

BROADHEAD MARY 05 March 2012 3747700 Death: 19 November 2011 Grant only Leeds

BROADHEAD MARY 06 January 2010 3181028 Death: 29 July 2009 Grant and will Leeds

There are quite a number of Broadhead / Crowther births from 1949 onwards, all in West Riding, various places, including (presumably) your own in Leeds.
(Correct surname on FreeBMD, but mistranscribed as Broadmead on Ancestry.)

Are you definitely aware of siblings or half-siblings?

You don't know when your mother died.
Do you know if she was still with Irvin when he died?
Or did they divorce, in which case she could have remarried (as you suggested above) and died under another surname?