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Missing the birth of Nancy Stoner 1909

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KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 23 Sep 2016 23:32

I'd agree with greyghost and say that the birth of Annie Stoner in Brighton wopuld be the most likely for Nancy.

Nancy is a well known nickname for someone called Ann or Annie.

Kath. x

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2016 23:05

First name(s) LEVI RAFFAELO
Last name ALIANDRO
Gender Male
Birth day 22
Birth month 10
Birth year 1910
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1998
District BRIGHTON
District number 4521D
Register number D1B
Entry number 063


First name(s) MAY BARBARA S N
Last name ALIANDRO
Gender Female
Birth day 30
Birth month 3
Birth year 1909
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1996
District BRIGHTON
District number 4521C
Register number C56A
Entry number 109

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Sep 2016 22:50

???????

Could Charles be Alec Charles - not seeing an Alec on the 1911, but there is Charles showing as born 1905. Age out again slightly 1911

Births Dec 1905 (>99%)
Stoner Alec Charles Brighton 2b 205
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1939 Register
Stoner Household (2 People)
36 Dominion Road , Worthing M.B., Sussex, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Alec C Stoner 12 Sep 1905 Male Grover Glass House Manager Married 2 1
Irene F Stoner 01 Aug 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 2 2

Also 3 closed records
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Surname First name(s) DoB District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1971 (>99%)
STONER Alec Charles 12Se1905 Worthing 5h 2438

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https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar#calendar

Stoner Alec Charles of 48 Lavington Road, Worthing died 31 January 1971 Administration (with Will) Brighton 16 April

EDIT - Alviegia has edited her earlier post (of 2214) having done further work on May and Levi - so I think my ????'s are probably redundant - will leave for now.

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2016 22:47

Charles Henry's wife in 1939.

102 Chester Terrace Chester Terrace , Brighton C.B., Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Elizabeth J Stoner 29 Sep 1902 Female - Married 364 1
Basil A Stoner 23 Sep 1910 Male Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 364 2
Ronald Edwards 12 Sep 1882 Male At School - 364 5

This is a strange one as the transcript actually reads
Charles H Stoner 29 Sept 1902 married
Elizabeth J Stoner 23 Sept 1910 married

the next 3 records are closed and Elizabeth has been scored through and See Page 35 written beside it.

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2016 22:31

Birth for Alfred, above in the 1939 Register?

Births Mar 1915 (>99%)

Stoner Frank A G Hudson Brighton 2b 395

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Sep 2016 22:30

A December birth 1907, may well have been registered Q1 1908

Marriages Dec 1933 (>99%)
Annie Stoner // Bernard S Trott Brighton 2b 712

??England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ANNIE
Last name TROTT
Gender Female
Birth day 19
Birth month 12
Birth year 1907
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1983
District BRIGHTON
County Sussex
Volume 18
Page 0262

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Sep 2016 22:23

My gt aunt was Annie Ethel, always known as Nance. This one should probably have been 3 by the time the 1911 census was taken, but maybe not by much? Perhaps the grandparents gave the ages...

???
England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) ANNIE
Last name STONER
Birth year 1908
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District BRIGHTON
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 183
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2016 22:14

1939 for them. She is still called May so most probably not Nancy.

3 Bath Street , Brighton C.B., Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
May Aliandro (Alexandro) 30 Mar 1909 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 98 2
Levi Alexandro 22 Oct 1910 Male Flour-Layer Married 98 1


EDIT Hang on there!! The family above them are Frank and May Stoner! What are the chances?



3 Bath Street , Brighton C.B., Sussex, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Frank Stoner 06 Oct 1876 Male Billiard Maker & Club Assist Married 97 1
May (L V) Stoner 05 Jan 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 97 2
Alfred Stoner 18 Feb 1915 Male Painter & Decorator Single 97 3

There are 2 closed records under this family and 3 closed records under May and Levi.

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2016 22:09

Just putting this up as a possible going by mother's first name.

First name(s) MAY BARBARA S N E
Last name STONER
Birth year 1909
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District BRIGHTON
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 211


and a possible marriage. I know it is a very long shot.


First name(s) MAY B
Last name STONER
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1936
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ MAY B STONER married
LEVI R ALIANDRO
Spouse's last name ALIANDRO
District BRIGHTON
District number -
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 691

Alan

Alan Report 23 Sep 2016 21:45

In 1911 at 49 Regent Street Brighton Sussex are
George Hudson Head 1853 58 Male Married
Elizabeth Hudson Wife 1864 47 Female Married
...
Frank Stoner Son-in-law 1871 40 Male Married Billiard Marker Brighton, Sussex
May Stoner Daughter 1885 Female Married 8 2 2 0 Waitress Fulham, London, England
Charles Stoner Grandson 1905 6 Male school Brighton, Sussex
Nancy Stoner Granddaughter 1909 2 Female school Brighton, Sussex

It says Frank and May have been married 8 years, with two children.
In fact the marriage was in 4Q1908, Frank Stoner to May Linda V Hudson Brighton,
and May's birth
1Q1885 Hudson May Linda V Fulham 1a 302

Charles is presumably (although he'd be 8 in the census not 6)
Births Dec 1902 (>99%)
Hudson Charles Henry Steyning 2b 259
but so far I haven't identified Nancy, or what became of her.

1911 has her aged 2 and at school which looks a little odd. Might she be Annie Elizabeth HUDSON, 4Q1904 Brighton who is not obvious in 1911?

Suggestions welcomed.

When Charles Henry marries in 1930 he is a widower and his father is shown as Frank Stoner, billiard maker, matching the 1911 census. I think the census should have Frank's age at 45 as I have eliminated the alternative Franks. My version of the family is listed at http://www.stoner.org.uk/stoner2008/Fg2h.html#BNF104

Alan