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He wasn't in Pell Street for very long. 3 possible births for children to this couple.

Electoral register:

1955
38 West India Dock Road- Stepney

Cecil Heywood
Ivy Heywood
Albert Venour
Thelma Venour
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1956
2b Pell Street- Stepney

Ahmed Kussan
Ahmed Nagi
Ahmed Mana Saleh
Mavis Saleh
Albert E Venour
Thelma B Venour

Thanks to everyone that has helped really do apprwciate it.

Looks like Phyllis remarried.

First name(s) PHYLLIS D
Last name WALLEY
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1963
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ PHYLLIS D WALLEY married
JOSEPH SMITH
Spouse's last name SMITH
District POPLAR
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 5D
Page 619


and her death.

First name(s) PHYLLIS DOREEN
Last name SMITH
Gender Female
Birth day 4
Birth month 9
Birth year 1928
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1994
District HAVERING
District number 2341A
Register number HA68
Entry number 269
Date of registration mm/yy 1194
County Essex

There is a tree on ancestry with this family. They don't have Albert on it though.

PARENTS
Frederick William Venour

1865–
Clara Marchant

1869–1955


SON

Albert Victor Venour

1901–1929

Birth 1901 • Mile End

Death 25/02/1929 • Stepney, London, England


Spouse & Children

Florence Eleanor Mercer

1903–1992


1) reginald victor venour 1924–2014 birth 29/12/1924 • Mile End, Greater London
Spouse & Children

vera rose ricketts

1925–2016
Private
Private
Private
Private

2) Stanley Ronald Venour 1926–

3) Phyllis D Venour 1928–1994 Death
7/11/1994 • oldchurch hospital, havering

4) Private

Helen, will pm some possible children for Reginald V Venour

and also possible children for Phyllis Venour.

Do you have his marriage certificate to Thelma Barbara Robertson?

This will give you his father's name and occupation, which will help confirm the information already found.


EDIT:-
I can't find anything for a Thelma Barbara Robertson, what do you know about her?

You say you know the name of your great uncle, so could you share with us so we can see if his name fits in anywhere?

So is nothing found earlier relevant then?

yes unfortunatley one of the tree holders of him s actually a half sibling of myself and she refuses to speak with me due to not being full sibling very silly situation as for the guy joseph smith the other tree holder not heard anything from him , i have searched though anad it seems albert was married three times and he is a hild from his third marriage but a step child not actually his so he wwouldnt be any help any way :(
i have recently spoke wiith a neighbour and ranomly she has the same surname and i am trying to research to see if we are related as my great uncle has the same name as her great grandad and im trying to find a link
its also for my childrens benefit as they have no family apart from me and my husband and it would be nice if this neighbur is related even if really distant you know . very complex situation fingers crossed i an find out lol
thankyou for those tips very helpful :)

Using google, they come up...(albert edward venour)

(something always worth doing family history wise, helps with all sorts sometimes)

Chris :)

Edits (worth a check also in 'Search All Member Trees' (top right of page here, under 'Search', he seems to be shared with other Genes Members.

chris? what do you mean ?

(some items seem to relate to him on google search)

Chris :)

I know his name was Albert Edward venour born in 1927 lived in pell st Stepney and married Thelma Barbara Robertson . I am trying to find out about siblings , cousins etc .. On the venour side . But struggling trying to find names etc

Can't see the chcildren in 1939?
May be easier if we had their exact dates of birth, as it is possible that they are under a different name.

Helen, do you have at least Albert Edward's date of birth please?

May be relevant?

First name(s) REGINALD V
Last name VENOUR
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1947
Registration month -

MarriageFinder™ REGINALD V VENOUR married
VERA R RICKETTS
Spouse's last name RICKETTS

District WEST HAM
District number -
County Essex
Country England
Volume 5A
Page 1560
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain


First name(s) PHYLLIS D
Last name VENOUR
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1947
Registration month -

MarriageFinder™ PHYLLIS D VENOUR married
MICHAEL WALLEY
Spouse's last name WALLEY

District WEST HAM
District number -
County Essex
Country England
Volume 5A
Page 1586
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Possible baptism for mother Florence:-



Name: Florence Eleanor Mercer
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Jun 1903
Father's name: William Mercer
Mother's name: Florence Mercer
Parish or Poor Law Union: Limehouse St Peter
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers


Mentioned on father's military records:-

Name: Florence Eleanor Mercer
Birth Date: 27 May 1903
Birth Place: Poplar
Document Year: 1914
Relationship to Soldier: Child
Form Title: Military History Sheet
Other Records:
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
William Mercer Self (Head)
Flora Mabella Schuffer Spouse
Florence Eleanor Mercer Child
Mabel Edith Mercer Child
Robert Henry Mercer Child
Rosina Mercer Child
Alice Mercer Child
William Mercer Child
Kate Mercer Child


Her death show that she did have middle name Eleanor so above could very well be her:-

Name: Florence Eleanor Green
Birth Date: 27 May 1903
Date of Registration: Oct 1992
Age at Death: 89
Registration district: Waltham Forest
Inferred County: London
Volume: 15
Page: 615

1939 Register for them? There is 1 closed record under the family. Wonder where all the children from the previous marriage are?


Green Household (3 People) 1 Danette Gardens , Dagenham M.B., Essex, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
George P Green 10 Dec 1902 Male Drayman Heavy Worker Married 17 1
Florence E Green 27 May 1903 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 17 2
Alfred C Green 20 Nov 1935 Male Under School Age Single 17 3

Father looks to have been a sailor

Name: Albert Victor Venour
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 21 Mar 1902
Birth Place: Mile End, London
Service number: J79104
First Service Date: 3 Oct 1917
First Ship Served On: Impregnable
Last Service Date: 8 Mar 1918
Last Ship Served On: Pembroke I

............................................


Name: Albert Victor Venour
Year: 1924
County or Borough: Tower Hamlets
Ward or Division/Constituency: Stepney
Street address: 64 Cleveland

Name: Albert Victor Venour
Year: 1925
County or Borough: Tower Hamlets
Ward or Division/Constituency: Stepney
Street address: 64 Graham House

Name: Albert Victor Venour
Year: 1926
County or Borough: Tower Hamlets
Ward or Division/Constituency: Stepney
Street address: 64 Isaac

Well, Florence remarried, thank goodness.


England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

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First name(s) FLORENCE E
Last name VENOUR
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1930
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ FLORENCE E VENOUR married
GEORGE P GREEN
Spouse's last name GREEN
District STEPNEY
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1C
Page 556

More details for his father's birth.


London, Docklands and East End Baptisms, 1558-1933 Transcription

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First name(s) Albert Victor
Last name Venour
Birth year 1902
Birth date 21 March 1902
Baptism year 1902
Baptism date 07 May 1902
Address 6 Mays Buildings, Devonshire Street
Father's first name(s) Frederick William
Father's occupation Brewer's Labourer
Mother's first name(s) Clara
Parish St Anthony, Stepney
Church address Globe Road
County London
Country England
Docklands Ancestors reference X086/167


and death. How sad to die so young leaving the mother with 4 toddlers.


ALBERT V
Last name VENOUR
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1903
Age 26
Death quarter 1
Death year 1929
District STEPNEY
County London
Volume 1C
Page 485

Possible birth of father:-

Births Jun 1902 (>99%)
VENOUR Albert Victor Mile End 1c 509

"IF" this is his father then this may also be relevant:-

1911
Name: Albert Victor Venour
[Albert Victor Venone]
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Mile End
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
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County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 64 Cephas St, Mile End
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Registration District Number: 21
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town North Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 1620
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick William Venour 45
Clara Venour 42
Edward Leonard Venour 18
Albert Victor Venour 9
James Alfred Venour 5
Louisa Fry Venour 1