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Daisy Lily West first marriage

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Sep 2016 20:56

If it was a bigamous mariage that was annulled then you won't find any gro ref for it

Natasha

Natasha Report 10 Sep 2016 18:24

This has nothing to do with Muriel Dorothy Morris.

safc

safc Report 10 Sep 2016 18:23


England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) MURIEL DOROTHY J
Last name MORRIS
Gender Female
Birth day 28
Birth month 8
Birth year 1923
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 2006
District CHELMSFORD
District number 4681D
Register number D11G
Entry number 036
Date of registration mm/yy 0206
County Essex
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Natasha

Natasha Report 10 Sep 2016 18:15

Muriel D J is not Joan Dorothy West. Joan did not marry a Ralph Morris.

I am looking for Joan Dorothy West's father.

safc

safc Report 10 Sep 2016 18:14


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First name(s) MURIEL D J
Last name WEST
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1939
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ MURIEL D J WEST married
RALPH F MORRIS
Spouse's last name MORRIS
District POOLE
District number -
County Dorset
Country England
Volume 5A
Page 1328
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces

Natasha

Natasha Report 10 Sep 2016 18:08

What about Muriel?

Andrew

Andrew Report 10 Sep 2016 17:27

Births Dec 1923 (>99%)
West Muriel D J West Alverstoke 2b 821

Andy

Natasha

Natasha Report 10 Sep 2016 17:26

Fred and Daisy married in Dorset. When Daisy was disowned she moved this way, whereas she lived in London and that's where Joan was.

Natasha

Natasha Report 10 Sep 2016 17:26

Yeah I was trying to trace back in Daisys family which is done, as far as I want to go at the mo, but I want to find her first marriage. I'm not 100% sure how long she was with the man for but Joan was born 1926 and then Daisy remarried 1929. So I guess it all happened quickly. Just want to know who Joans father is really.

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Sep 2016 17:23

Yes, I know Fred was the second marriage - gives an idea of area possibly

Thought the names and places sounded familiar

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1361993

safc

safc Report 10 Sep 2016 17:22


Daisy L Graham on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Graham Household (4 People) 2 Asquith Cottages King Street , Poole M.B., Dorset, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Daisy L Graham 15 May 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 178 2
Frederick G Graham 24 Oct 1908 Male General Labourer Heavy Worker Married 178 1
Phyllis Phillips (Graham) 26 Jan 1931 Female At School Single 178 5
Muriel D J Morris (West,Graham) 28 Aug 1923 Female Power Press Operator At Metal Carpenter Factory Single 178 7

Ref: RG101/6926C/017/11 Letter Code: WKFR© Findmypast Ltd
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Natasha

Natasha Report 10 Sep 2016 17:14

Greyghost, yes that's the correct Daisy.

Natasha

Natasha Report 10 Sep 2016 17:14

Greyghost, that's the second marriage in 1929, so it's not that. The first marriage was before then with a different man.

Andrew, Joan was born in London, literally between the bow bells or something.

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Sep 2016 17:14

Is this Daisy's birth? Just to get an idea of age, so we know from what year she may have married first -

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) DAISY LILY
Last name WEST
Birth year 1902
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District ALVERSTOKE
County Hampshire
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 566

but would go with this death in the Poole RD

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) DAISY LILY
Last name GRAHAM
Gender Female
Birth day 15
Birth month 5
Birth year 1901
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1981
District POOLE
County Dorset
Volume 23
Page 0746

Andrew

Andrew Report 10 Sep 2016 17:11

When/where was Joan born?

Andy

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Sep 2016 17:10

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) DAISY L
Last name WEST
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1929
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ DAISY L WEST married
FREDERICK G GRAHAM
Spouse's last name GRAHAM
District POOLE
District number -
County Dorset
Country England

Natasha

Natasha Report 10 Sep 2016 17:00

I'm getting really frustrated. I've been searching Genes and Ancestry records to try and find Daisy's first marriage.

Daisy married a man who was already married therefore the marriage didn't count but Daisy didn't know this for several years - but surely there would still be a record somewhere?

Daisy and this man had a child known as either Dorothy or Joan. I know her as Aunty Joan but as a child she was known as Dorothy.

No one knows who the father is at all, but surely there has to be a record somewhere of her first marriage? I know there won't be any divorce papers due to the fact it wasn't a legit marriage.

That's all I got, it was a huge secret. But I really, really want to try and find Joan's father because he's got another family and it's interested, plus Joan is still alive and never knew her father or family. (Although her step father was amazing.)

Just to clarify, Daisy married Fred Graham in 1929. So it's not him, and the marriage is before that. :-( :-(