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Hi Flip,

I have PM'd you,

jean

Thanks Jean much appreciated, we appear to have hit a dead end with him.

Hi Flip,

sorry just seen this message,
I can't remember if I did find out any more about James or who asked me about him
but I will go through my notes, ( of which there are many ) and see what I can find.

regards

jean

I've sent a PM to Jean to see if she is still around and could help further.

ArgyllGran,

thank you very much for this, as I say I am trying to help someone else to find James and so please don't use any credits , I am passing all this information on so it will be up to them to go on SP.
All the James on the 1911 census have been looked at but so far none of them match the James we are looking for.
On his wife's death cert it says married to not widow of James Dalrymple.
The children are on the 1911 Irish census living with their aunt but spelling is Dalrimple.

I'm tempted to think this might be James's death:

1909 DALRYMPLE JAMES M 29
CALDERHEAD /LANARK 626/0B 0012

EDIT: No, it's not!

I gave in to temptation, spent a few credits, and had a look.

That James was a coal miner, married to a Margaret.

Rosetta's death cert would say if James had predeceased her or not. Of course, it wouldn't say when.

1953 DALRYMPLE ROSETTA
Other surname MCERLANE F 73
CALDERHEAD /LANARK 626/0B 0077

Thank you both , just to say you are both right, not the James we have been looking for, but thanks again for your help.

Thanks ArgyllGran,

I had just worked that one out and posted above :-(

It was worth a try though ;-)

Dea x

Don't want to pour cold water, but have doubts about that one, Dea.

[EDIT: Typing while you posted your last message! I see you doubt it yourself now!}

Apart from slight differences in YOB and occupation (though the image of the US incoming passenger list below does say he's an iron moulder, so not too dissimilar, I suppose) , the man Jean's friend is looking for was born Ireland, not Scotland.

The Kirkintilloch man claims to be single, and Scottish.
His father was James Dalrymple of 103 Townhead, Kirkintilloch.
No mention of Ireland.

James Dalrymple
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: James Dalrymple
Arrival Date: 4 Apr 1911
Birth Date: abt 1881
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: kirkentelloah [ Kirkintilloch]
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Furnessia

Apologies - I do not now think that the one who went to New York was the one you are looking for - I believe this is probably him and David Duncan on 1901:


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Townhead, 107, Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Duncan Head Married Male 52 1849 House Painter Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
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Marion Duncan Wife Married Female 53 1848 - Dalry, Ayrshire, Scotland
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James Duncan Son Single Male 28 1873 Iron Moulder Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Janet Duncan Daughter Single Female 22 1879 Dressmaker Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Alexander Duncan Son Single Male 17 1884 Labourer Nickel Work Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
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***David Duncan Son - Male 12 1889 Scholar Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
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Marion Duncan Granddaughter - Female 5 1896 - Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland




1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Townhead, 87, Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Dalrymple Head Married Male 47 1854 Pattern Maker (Iron Foundry) Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
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Margaret Dalrymple Wife Married Female 46 1855 - Inverness, Invernessshire, Scotland
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***James Dalrymple Son Single Male 22 1879 Iron Moulder Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
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John Dalrymple Son Single Male 20 1881 Mason Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
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Annie Dalrymple Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Power Loom Weaver Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
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Alic Dalrymple Son - Male 15 1886 Message Boy Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
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Janet Dalrymple Daughter - Female 13 1888 Scholar Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
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Duncan Dalrymple Son - Male 11 1890 Scholar Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
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William Dalrymple Son - Male 7 1894 Scholar Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland

Dea x

Dea,

thank you very much for this, I will pass this information on and see if they recognize any names,

regards

jean

I can't help wondering about this man ??

James Dalrymple
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: James Dalrymple
Gender: Male - Moulder
Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1881
Departure Date: 25 Mar 1911
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Furnessia
Search Ship Database: Search for the Furnessia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 176900
Master: J Black


He seems to be travelling with this person:
Name: David Duncan
Gender: Male - Painter
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1889
Departure Date: 25 Mar 1911
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Furnessia
Search Ship Database: Search for the Furnessia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 176900
Master: J Black
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They both give their place of residence as Kirkintilloch which is 8 miles north east of Glasgow centre.

Dea x
They are both going to stay with a 'Friend' - Thomas (Puhan/ Rihan / ??? - Cannot read the name.)
His Address - Eadwood (or Eastwood) Park, St Louis, Missouri.

Thanks very much ArgylleGran,

I will let the person who is looking for him know .
Although I am pretty sure he would have checked the 1911 for him.

He doesn't appear to be in England, Wales, or Ireland in 1911.

There are a few possibilities in Scotland - you can view the original census documents for the price of a few credits on Scotlands People:

1911 DALRYMPLE JAMES M 32 WEMYSS /FIFE 459/01 002/00 026

1911 DALRYMPLE JAMES M 30 KILWINNING /AYR 599/00 009/00 021

1911 DALRYMPLE JAMES M 34 POSSILPARK GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/07 008/00 019

1911 DALRYMPLE JAMES M 32 LEITH NORTH EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 692/01 018/00 002

1911 DALRYMPLE JAMES M 32 KIRKMAHOE /DUMFRIES 835/00 002/00 003

safc,

thanks very much for this information.
I am actually trying to help find this chap for someone else, so any help is great.
His wife Rosetta went into Hartwood asylum c 1911 and the children went back to Ireland to stay with family but James seems to have disappeared during this time .

Ireland Births 1864-1958 Transcription

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First name(s) Mary Margretta
Last name Dalrumple
Registration year 1899
Registered quarter/year Apr - Jun 1899
Registration district Ballymoney
Volume 1
Page 131
Mother's last name (original) -
County Antrim, Londonderry (Derry)
Country Ireland
Record set Irish Births 1864-1958
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
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Ireland Marriages 1845-1958 Transcription

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First name(s) James
Last name Dalrymple
Registration year 1898
Registered Quarter/Year Apr - Jun 1898
Registration district Ballymoney
Volume 1
Page 189
MarriageFinder™ James Dalrymple married one of these people
Rose M'erlaine, Ann Boyle
County -
Country Ireland
Record set Irish Marriages 1845-1958
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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Thank you too Margaret ,

Thank you safc,

that's my man,

regards

jean