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26 Aug 2016 16:02 |
Thanks Chris - at least that is proof then......
Unfortunately I know of no records online for that particular church, although I do believe that they are held at Lancashire Records Office.
Strangely though, I can't see anything of this marriage on either Lancs BMD or on FreeBMD.
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26 Aug 2016 13:27 |
Ooh!, hold on, one for you here Dea, Manchester, lol...(just this minute found!, been 'niggling' me all morning this has!)
Edits (if can be found online, that is!)
Chris :)
22 May 1908 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
ITEMS OF LOCAL INTEREST. Today Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Battiste, Grafton Street, Worksop, celebrate their Golden Wedding. They were married at St. Chad's Roman Catholic Church, Manchester, on 22nd May 1858, and for 48 years Mr. Battiste has been employed by Shireoaks Colliery, near Worksop, since leaving which he has been employed by Worksop Urban Council. He is a native of Genoa, Italy, but has resided in England since he was 15. Mrs. Battiste is a native of Sheffield, her maiden name being Rowbotham. She is 68 years of age, whilst her husband is nearly 71, and both are very active and well preserved. They have six children surviving, 22 grandchildren and 2 great - grandchildren.
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26 Aug 2016 13:18 |
A tree on Ancestry suggests that Sarah's maiden name is Rowbotham but I see no proof of this and no marriage for her to Joseph.
I found this Sarah Rowbotham on 1851 which would appear to fit ?
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 16, Smith Field, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Rowbotham Head Married Male 37 1814 File Cutter Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Hannah Rowbotham Wife Married Female 41 1810 - Thorne, Yorkshire, England Transcription Hannah Rowbotham Daughter - Female 15 1836 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription Sarah A Rowbotham Daughter - Female 10 1841 Scholar Wadsley, Yorkshire, England Transcription Joseph Rowbotham Son - Male 7 1844 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription William Rowbotham Son - Male 4 1847 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
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26 Aug 2016 08:10 |
Was looking around at Joseph on 'google', seems to be a problem that!...(others not having!)
(notes Sarah A. comes from your way Gins, lol, think if it came to it, the 1870 Ambrose Birth Cert. would be needed)
Chris :)
(below looks to be John)
Births Mar 1862 (>99%) --------------------------------------------- BATTIST John Worksop 7b 25
(and Burial of the son Joseph on 1861, notes he was born Lancs.)
Burial County Nottinghamshire Place Worksop Church name Our Lady And St Cuthbert (Priory) Register type Parish Register Register entry number 114 Burial date 01 Sep 1861 Person age 1 Burial person forename Joseph Burial person surname BATTIST Burial person abode Worksop
Deaths Jun 1913 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------- Battiste Joseph 75 Worksop 7b 34
Deaths Mar 1926 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------- Battiste Sarah A 85 Worksop 7b 35
1911 (Find My Past) Joseph Battisle Head Married Male General Labourer 73 1838 Genoa Italy Sarah Ann Battisle Wife Married Female - 70 1841 Sheffield Yorks Albert Battisle Son Single Male Coal Miners Filler Belowground 29 1882 Worksop Notts Address 15 Grafton St Worksop Parish Worksop County Nottinghamshire Census reference RG14 PN20225 RG78 PN1211 RD427 SD1 ED4 SN312 (says Married 52yrs, 10 children born, 6 living, 4 died)
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26 Aug 2016 07:43 |
Chris
Can you find a marriage between Joseph Battiste & Sarah?
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26 Aug 2016 07:19 |
Baptism County Nottinghamshire Place Worksop Church name Our Lady and St Cuthbert (Priory) Register type Unspecified Baptism date 26 Apr 1893 Person forename William Person sex M Person abode 40 Lowtown St Father forename Charles William Father surname FORES Father occupation Miner Mother forename Annie
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
(you can find more relating on above, free to use, tick 'Soundex' for surname variants!)
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Births Mar 1870 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------ LATOIR Ambrose Worksop 7b 24
(notes Brother John had below Son)
Burial County Nottinghamshire Place Worksop Church name St John Register type Unspecified Baptism date 26 Feb 1884 Person forename Ambrose Person sex M Person abode Worksop Father forename John Father surname BATTISTE Father occupation Collier Mother forename Mary Ellen
Burial County Nottinghamshire Place Worksop Church name Our Lady And St Cuthbert (Priory) Register type Parish Register Register entry number 748 Burial date 04 Mar 1884 Person age 2w Burial person forename Ambrose Burial person surname BATTISTE LE TOUR Burial person abode Worksop
Births Mar 1884 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------- Battiste Le Toir Ambrose Worksop 7b 31 Le Toir Ambrose Worksop 7b 31
Deaths Mar 1884 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------- Battiste-Le-Toir Ambrose 0 Worksop 7b 22 LE TOIR Ambrose Battiste 0 Worksop 7b 22
(Ambrose Father of Lilly)
County Nottinghamshire Place Worksop Church name St John Register type Parish Register Register entry number 398 Marriage date 26 Jul 1891 Groom forename Ambrose Groom surname BATTISTE Groom age 21 Groom condition bachelor Groom abode Grafton Street Groom occupation Wood Turner Bride forename Matilda Bride surname BLOWER Bride age 18 Bride condition spinster Bride abode Prospect Place Groom father forename Joseph Groom father surname BATTISTE Groom father occupation Miner Bride father forename Philip (deceased) Bride father surname BLOWER Bride father occupation Miner Witness George Peet Witness Sarah Ann
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26 Aug 2016 05:43 |
Here is Joseph
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 144, Newgate Street, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England John Drury Head Married Male 58 1803 Agricultural Labourer Yorkshire, England Elizabeth Drury Wife Married Female 58 1803 - Yorkshire, England Henry Lister Lodger Unmarried Male 19 1842 Agricultural Labourer Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Job Drury Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Coal Miner Gateford, Nottinghamshire, England Patience Drury Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1847 - Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Israel Drury Son - Male 7 1854 - Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Mary Ann Taylor Servant ... Female 32 1829 - Yorkshire, England James Smith Lodger Widower Male 33 1828 Agricultural Labourer Hertfordshire, England Herbert Culp Lodger Married Male 25 1836 Moulder Lancashire, England Mary Ann Culp Lodger Married Female 27 1834 - Lancashire, England Richard Rhodes Lodger Unmarried Male 18 1843 ... Lincolnshire, England Thomas Rhodes Lodger Unmarried Male 16 1845 ... Sheffield, Yorkshire, England ... Cruthers Lodger Married Male 41 1820 Agricultural Labourer Liverpool, Lancashire, England Harriett Cruthers Wife Married Female 38 1823 Agricultural Labourers Wife Warwickshire, England Mary Cruthers Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England ... Cruthers Daughter - Female 9 1852 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Ellen Cruthers Daughter - Female 13 1848 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Edward Foy Lodger Married Male 25 1836 Agricultural Labourer Ireland William Wright Lodger Married Male 36 1825 Agricultural Labourer Ruskington, Lincolnshire, England Jane Wright Wife Married Female 41 1820 Agricultural Labourers Wife Northampton, Northamptonshire, England John Foy Lodger Unmarried Male 18 1843 Cordwainer Ireland Arnold Previn Lodger Married Male 32 1829 Upholsterer Ireland John Smith Lodger Married Male 37 1824 Bricklayer & Slater Ireland Ellen Smith Wife Married Female 37 1824 Bricklayers Wife Ireland
Joseph Battesti Lodger Married Male 22 1839 Coal Miner Italy <<<<<< Sarah Battesti Wife Married Female 20 1841 Coal Miners Wife - York Joseph Battesti Son - Male 1 1860 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
George Foreman Lodger Married Male 30 1831 Agricultural Labourer Wardington, Lincolnshire, England Mary Foreman Lodger Married Female 26 1835 Agricultural Labourer Ireland John Foy Lodger Unmarried Male 21 1840 Wood Sawyer Ireland Michael Smith Lodger Married Male 81 1780 Agricultural Labourer Ireland Thomas Herbert Lodger Unmarried Male 41 1820 Wheelwright Ireland Henry Goodingham Lodger Married Male 42 1819 Engraver Bath, Somerset, England Alexander Smith Lodger Married Male 40 1821 Umbrella Maker Norwich, Norfolk, England George Ward Lodger Married Male 42 1819 Cutler Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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26 Aug 2016 05:25 |
Wow,
Thanks again and you have found the Italian link, super, this will keep me busy for ages........
Thankyou again.
Jane X.
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26 Aug 2016 05:24 |
Just looked back at the 'Fores' line and they appear to be from Yorkshire & Nottinghamshire.
Here is William's Grandfather:
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Whiston, Upper, Whiston, Rotherham, Yorkshire, England John Foers Male 40 1801 Yorkshire, England Elizabeth Foers Female 40 1801 Yorkshire, England James Foers Male 15 1826 Yorkshire, England Benjn Foers Male 12 1829 Yorkshire, England Charles Foers Male 12 1829 Yorkshire, England Hannah Foers Female 10 1831 Yorkshire, England John Foers Male 8 1833 Yorkshire, England Willm Foers Male 6 1835 Yorkshire, England Thos Foers Male 1 1840 Yorkshire, England
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26 Aug 2016 05:13 |
Hello Ginny
Thankyou for sorting this, I shall take some time to study it all, I am rather slow with it all.
Apparently there is a connection with Italy for the Fores line but I think this is probably not true just someones memory not quite right.
What a great help Jane X.
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26 Aug 2016 05:12 |
Here's the Italian connection for the Battiste family (Lily' Grandfather, Beatrice's G Great grandfather - Joseph Battiste b1838c Italy)
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Grafton Street, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Joseph Battiste Head Married Male 53 1838 Coal Miner Italy Sarah A Battiste Wife Married Female 50 1841 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Ambrose Battiste Son Single Male 21 1870 Wood Yard Labourer Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Sarah A Battiste Daughter Single Female 18 1873 - Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Walter Rowbottom Nephew Single Male 20 1871 Coal Pit Labourer Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Albert Battiste Son - Male 9 1882 School Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cresswell Street, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Joseph Battis Head Married Male 43 1838 Coal Miner Italy <<<<< Sarah A Battis Wife Married Female 40 1841 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England John Battis Son Single Male 19 1862 General Labourer Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England William Battis Son Single Male 17 1864 General Labourer Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Ambrose Battis Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Emma Battis Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Sarah A Battis Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Walter Rowbotham Nephew Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
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26 Aug 2016 05:02 |
Hi Jane
Did you see my post from yesterday. The 1939 Register showing the parents of Beatrice?
Here is her father in 1901/11
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 40, Low Town Street, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Chas Wm Fores Head Married Male 30 1871 Colliery Underground Labourer Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Annie Fores Wife Married Female 28 1873 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England William Fores Son Single Male 7 1894 - Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Beatrice Fores Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 9 Clinton St Worksop, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Charles W Fores Head Married Male Coal Miner Hewer 40 1871 Worksop Notts Annie Fores Wife Married Female - 38 1873 Sheffield Yorks William Fores Son Single Male Pony Driver In Coal Pit Below Ground 17 1894 Worksop Notts Beatrice Fores Daughter - Female School 12 1899 Worksop Notts Charles Fores Son - Male - 9 1902 Worksop Notts Walter Fores Son - Male - 4 1907 Worksop Notts Nellie Fores Daughter - Female - 2 1909 Worksop Notts --------------------------------------------------------------------------
And her mother
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 111, Sandy Lane, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Ambrose Battiste Head Married Male 31 1870 Woodyard Labourer Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Matilda Battiste Wife Married Female 26 1875 - Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Elizabeth Ann Blower Step Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Walter Battiste Son - Male 8 1893 - Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Lily Battiste Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 111 Sandy Lane Worksop, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Ambrose Battiste Head Married Male Finisher Woodyard 41 1870 Nottingham Worksop Matilda Battiste Wife Married Female - 36 1875 Nottingham Worksop Walter Battiste Son Single Male Pony Driver In Coal Mine 18 1893 Nottingham Worksop Lilly Battiste Daughter Single Female - 14 1897 Nottingham Worksop Frederick Johnson Boarder Single Male Out Of Work 28 1883 Nottingham Worksop
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26 Aug 2016 04:37 |
Hi,
Can anyone find a census for Battiste or Fores family 1911 or 1901
Fores family is possibly linked to Italy
Jane.
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25 Aug 2016 08:11 |
Beatrice and her husband are in Australia
living Deakin Victoria in 1980
Name: Beatrice Hyrnik Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1980 Subdistrict: Heathmont State: Victoria District: Deakin Country: Australia
28 Hill Street Ringwood both process workers
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25 Aug 2016 08:08 |
Thanks Shirley, I knew I'd seen that marriage. I was searching the 'wrong' year!!!
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25 Aug 2016 07:48 |
nice find gins cos Beatrice did marry Michal Hyrnik
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25 Aug 2016 07:46 |
Annie married 1956
Annie''s death (Beatrice sister) :
Name: Annie Moore Birth Date: 25 Jan 1923 Date of Registration: Jun 1994 Age at Death: 71 Registration district: Worksop Inferred County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire Register Number: 3A District and Subdistrict: 6911B Entry Number: 195
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25 Aug 2016 07:45 |
First name(s) LILY Last name BATTISTE Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1896 Age 71 Death quarter 3 Death year 1967 District WORKSOP County Nottinghamshire Volume 3C Page 426 Country England Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
so never married
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25 Aug 2016 07:45 |
(possible for her below)
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Baptism County Nottinghamshire Place Worksop Church name St John Register type Unspecified Baptism date 13 May 1896 Person forename Lilly Person sex F Person abode 15 Crown St Father forename Ambrose Father surname BATTISTE Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Matilda
Burial County Nottinghamshire Place Worksop Church name Our Lady And St Cuthbert (Priory) Register type Parish Register Register entry number 325 Burial date 04 Aug 1967 Person age 71 Burial person forename Lily Burial person surname BATISTE Burial person abode 490 Gateford Road
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25 Aug 2016 07:43 |
Probate: William Fores (same address as 1939, above) Died 12th March 1959
To: Beatrice Hyrnik, married woman £76 12s
Edit: I saw a marriage with the above surname and I can't find it now!!!!
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