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Eringobragh1916 its apparently another Irish family link.

My grandmother Emily Nelson born 1927 Stockton

Parents on birth certificate of my grandmother

Richard Henry Nelson
Mary Frances Nelson (formerly Fleming)

All the suggested evidence points to Mary Frances Fleming daughter of James Fleming coming from Ireland.

What address on Birth Cert....(so Richard and Mary Married 3rd November 1928, on image you provided, Emily born before then)


Births Mar 1927 (>99%)
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Nelson Emily Fleming Stockton 10a 165


Marriages Dec 1928 (>99%)
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FLEMING Mary F NELSON Stockton 10a 160
Nelson Richard H Fleming Stockton 10a 160

Chris :)

Hiya Chris,

My grandmother's birth certificate (Emily Nelson 5th Feb 1927) states the following address-

17 Smithfield
Stockton on Tees

I think Chris is wondering the same as me- they seem to have had several children before they married -yet neither, according to their marriage certificate, was married before- so why did they wait?

Hi AustinQ it's a good question unfortunately I have absolutely no idea :-)

My main research was to discover who the mother of Mary Frances Nelson (formerly Fleming). It occurred to me the easiest way to resolve this is to simply ask one of her surviving grandchildren whether she was Irish.

If so this will confirm the Cork suggestion and that her mother was Mary Lynch who married James Fleming in 1891 Cork.

This evening I got Richard Henry Nelson's birth certificate so I now can confirm his mother was Emily Duffy (sounds like another Irish name to me).

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/kornflakes77/Richard%20Henry%20Nelson%201895%20birth%20certificate_zpsiskfzhsy.jpg

So I think the answer to my question who were the mothers of Richard Henry Nelson & Mary Frances Fleming is-

Emily Duffy
Mary Lynch

This ancestry search could be so much easier if the English marriage licenses followed the Scottish system.....so much more info on Scottish marriage licenses.

yup finally got to chat to Christine Frizzell and she confirmed that her grandmother Mary Frances Nelson (formerly Fleming) had a very strong Irish accent and stated that her sister Clarice said she was from County Cork....that would clinch my suspicion that she is who I thought she was.