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Gladys Joyce
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11 Jul 2016 16:18 |
Hello I am trying to find out information about my grandmother´s family. The only thing I know is that she was born in Dublin. Also my father´s family Joseph McGuire born in 1912 also in Dublin
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11 Jul 2016 16:30 |
Welcome to the boards Gladys.
A bit more info would help. Are you sure you know nothing about William's wife? Where did you get the name William Swinyard from? Was it from his daughters MC?
Known or assumed years of birth and details of other related events, would be useful.
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11 Jul 2016 16:35 |
Hello Gladys- can you tell us a little more about William Swinyard?
I see you have a William Swinyard born 1893 in your tree- is it the wife of this William you are trying to find?
What were their children's names and where were they born/ raised?
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11 Jul 2016 16:49 |
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Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%) Blout William J Gooch Medway 2a 1484 Booth Catherine Swinyard Medway 2a 1484 Davis Rosetta M Watson Medway 2a 1484 Swinyard William _ Booth Medway 2a 1484
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11 Jul 2016 17:43 |
Gladys has Kathleen Swinyard 1916 where as another member has her born 1912. Medway which would match with
EDIT - Probably not this one! Births Sep 1912 (>99%) Swinyard Kathleen M Champ Medway 2a 1468
Assuming a marriage to Joseph McGuire (Glady's father)
Marriages Jun 1947 (>99%) McGuire Joseph Saxby Lewisham 5d 294 McGuire Joseph Swinyard Lewisham 5d 294 Saxby Kathleen McGuire Lewisham 5d 294 Swinyard Kathleen McGuire Lewisham 5d 294
suggests that she had previously been married to a Mr Saxby.
Marriages Mar 1941 (>99%) Saxby Victor N Swinyard Lewisham 1d 1940 Swinyard Kathleen Saxby Lewisham 1d 1940
The 1947 Mcquire/Swinyard marriage does seem more plausible if one were to research the names of their children ;-)
We do need feed back to know if Glady's mother was born in Medway area in 1912 or if this is incorrect.
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11 Jul 2016 17:47 |
Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%) Champ Elizabeth E Swinyard Medway 2a 1013 Swinyard George E Champ Medway 2a 1013
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11 Jul 2016 17:54 |
1939 Register which might match the Champ/Swinyard 1912 marriage
Swinyard Household (5 People) 201 Nacton Road , Ipswich C.B., Suffolk, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Elizabeth E Swinyard 28 Apr 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married George E Swinyard 19 Feb 1891 Male Foreman Of Works Ceinc Dept Adm Married Winifred E Swinyard 15 Sep 1913 Female Shop Assistant (Grocery Single Donald L Snow 04 Jan 1907 Male Progress Clerk (Engineers) Married Kathleen M Snow 03 Jul 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
so if we were to assume that Kathleen M is their daughter, the 1912 marriage is a red herring
To confirm maiden name Marriages Sep 1938 (>99%) Snow Donald L Swinyard Ipswich 4a 3713 Swinyard Kathleen M Snow Ipswich 4a 3713
So the 1912 Medway birth, repeated below, is incorrect Births Sep 1912 (>99%) Swinyard Kathleen M Champ Medway 2a 1468
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11 Jul 2016 18:34 |
Gladys also had Eileen Swinyard 1918 in her tree:
A daughter for the 1916 marriage?
First name(s) EILEEN M Last name SWINYARD Birth year 1921 Birth quarter 3 Mother's last name BOOTH District GREENWICH County London Volume 1D Page 1816 -----------------------------------
But also this one:
First name(s) EILEEN E Last name SWINYARD Birth year 1918 Birth quarter 4 Mother's last name BOYFIELD District SLEAFORD County Lincolnshire Country England Volume 7A Page 603
Think we need a bit of feedback Gladys!
You can reply using the box at the bottom of this thread ("Add Your Reply").
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11 Jul 2016 18:58 |
As Gladys is a novice user of the boards - PM sent advising that we have added to the thread and asking her to read & reply using the 'Add your reply' box.
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Gladys Joyce
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11 Jul 2016 19:24 |
Yes my mother was previously married to a Mr Victor Saxby. She was born in Greenwich. Then she married Mr. Joseph McGuire (my father) from Dublin but who had moved to England where they met. I would like to find my father´s family and also my grandmother´s family, Catherine who was married to William Swinyard
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Gladys Joyce
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11 Jul 2016 19:27 |
Eileen Swinyard was my aunt. My mother´s sister. :-)
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11 Jul 2016 19:44 |
The birth reg for 2 Eileens were posted - was if the one with the mother's maiden name of Booth?
So pulling forward the marriage already posted - is this Wiliam and Catherine's marriage?
Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%) Blout William J Gooch Medway 2a 1484 Booth Catherine Swinyard Medway 2a 1484 <<< Davis Rosetta M Watson Medway 2a 1484 Swinyard William _ Booth Medway 2a 1484 <<<<
That tells us that her maiden name was Booth. If you were to get a copy of her MC, it should tell you her declared age and her father's name.
Do you know when she died? The dob may be on that.
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11 Jul 2016 20:06 |
Is it possible that this is her cremation?
Swinyard, Catherine Mary CrematedOn: 08 July 1976 Recorded at: Hither Green Crematorium (Lewisham) Date of death 05 July 1976
From https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
Corresponding Death reg CATHERINE MARY Last name SWINYARD Gender Female Birth day 4 Birth month 5 Birth year 1888 Death quarter 3 Death year 1976 District LEWISHAM County London Volume 14 Page 0530
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Gladys Joyce
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11 Jul 2016 20:24 |
This sounds like my Nan. Catherine Mary Swinyard. and cremated in Hither Green. I wish I knew her maiden name and some of her family.
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11 Jul 2016 20:42 |
Catherine M Swingard on the 1939 Register
1939 Register Transcription
Household (2 People) 71 Launcelot Road , Lewisham, London, England Attach to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Catherine M Swingard 04 May 1888 Female Domestic Duties Married 48 3 William E Swingard 18 Mar 1889 Male Railway Labourer Heavy Worker Married 48 2
Ref: RG101/0395A/009/39 Letter Code: © Findmypast Ltd Open a closed record Request a living person's record Close an open record Report an error should be swinyard
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11 Jul 2016 20:47 |
Well done for finding that 1939 Register entry safc :-D
Gladys - the evidence is that her maiden name is BOOTH as per the marriage and your Aunty Eileen's birth reg.
You can order a copy of the MC at a cost of £9.25 from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
That'll tell you who she names as her father. Witnesses might also be Booth relations.
Posting yet again Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%) Blout William J Gooch Medway 2a 1484 Booth Catherine Swinyard Medway 2a 1484 <<<<<< Davis Rosetta M Watson Medway 2a 1484 Swinyard William _ Booth Medway 2a 1484 <<<<<<
Perhaps this transcription layout will help you understand
First name(s) CATHERINE Last name BOOTH Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1916 Spouse's last name SWINYARD District MEDWAY District number - County Kent Country England Volume 2A Page 1484 MarriageFinder™ CATHERINE BOOTH married WILLIAM E SWINYARD
The reverse WILLIAM E Last name SWINYARD Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1916 Spouse's last name BOOTH District MEDWAY District number - County Kent Country England Volume 2A Page 1484
MarriageFinder™ WILLIAM E SWINYARD married CATHERINE BOOTH
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11 Jul 2016 21:13 |
William's death - day is a bit out WILLIAM EDWARD Last name SWINYARD Gender Male Birth day 10 Birth month 3 Birth year 1889 Death quarter 3 Death year 1977 District LEWISHAM County London Volume 14 Page 0657
His cremation Swinyard first names William Edward CrematedOn:23 September 1977 Recorded at: Hither Green Crematorium (Lewisham) Date of death 19 September 1977
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Chris Ho :)
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11 Jul 2016 21:21 |
British Army Service Records 1914-1920 (Find My Past) (William Edward Swinyard)
(a lot of images to read through, but below on it)
Married to Catherine Booth. Place Chatham. Date 8/1/16)
(below relates, Death Cert. on Record)
Births Mar 1916 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Swinyard Gladys P E Cottle Medway 2a 1388 (11/3/16. Place Gillingham. 6, Vicarage Road)
Deaths Sep 1917 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------------- Swinyard Gladys P E 1 Greenwich 1d 818 (1/7/17. Address, 4, West Grove Terrace, Point Hill. Blanche Foster as Informant. Address, 4, West Grove Terrace, Point Hill
Burial Register summary Swinyard Gladys Burial date 05 July 1917 Authority Royal Borough of Greenwich - London Location Greenwich Cemetery (Greenwich)
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
Chris :)
(16/4/1921, Address, 110, Norman Road, Greenwich. (Acknowledges receipt of War and Victory Medal. Royal West Kent Regt. 8609)
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11 Jul 2016 21:26 |
this your aunts birth
Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Swinyard Eileen M Booth Greenwich 1d 1816
a bit puzzeled if Eileen is your mother's sister why is Eileen born swinyard do you mean she is your mother's sister in law
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11 Jul 2016 21:27 |
Looks like William was in the army in 1911?
William Edward Swinyard Age in 1911: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Gender: Male Birth Place: Greenwich Civil Parish: Headley Search Photos: Search for 'Headley' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Quebee, West Kent Regiment, Bordon Marital Status: Single Occupation: Soldier Military Unit: 1st Battalion R W Kent Regiment Registration district: Alton Registration District Number: 108 Sub-registration district: Binsted ED, institution, or vessel: 13-19 Piece: 6234
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