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Nottsgirl
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3 Jul 2016 14:38 |
Hi All,
Could some kind person please have a look on 1891 census for Emma Burton (nee Walli) born 1843 Stapleford Nottinghamshire husband was James Burton index has them in Leicestershire.
Then 1901 census for Emma Wallis born 1843 Stapleford living in Beeston Nottingham with mother? elizabeth Wallis would like all details please.
Wendy
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3 Jul 2016 14:42 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription North Street, Whitwick, Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England
James Burton Head Married Male 51 1840 Inn Keeper Coalville, Leicestershire, England Emma Burton Wife Married Female 48 1843 - Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England
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PricklyHolly
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3 Jul 2016 14:43 |
Emma Wallis in the 1901 England Census Name:Emma Wallis Age:59 Estimated birth year:abt 1842 Relation to Head:Daughter Gender:Female Mother:Elizabeth Wallis Birth Place:Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish:Beeston Ecclesiastical parish:Beeston Town:Beeston County/Island:Nottinghamshire Country:England
Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Beeston
Household Members:
Elizabeth Wallis 78 (Widow) Monthly Nurse Emma Wallis 59 Silk (Something?) Spin
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Nottsgirl
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3 Jul 2016 14:44 |
Hi Gins,
Thank you so much yes that's her, she sometimes used the name Emily so been hard to find.
Wendy
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Nottsgirl
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3 Jul 2016 14:46 |
Hi Prickles,
Thank you so much can you see if she was down as single or married or widowed please I've had one or to who used the maiden name instead of married names.
Wendy
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PricklyHolly
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3 Jul 2016 14:47 |
Single on the 1901..
Prickles. ;o))
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Maddie
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3 Jul 2016 14:49 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 23, Chapel Street, Beeston, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Elizabeth Wallis Head Single Female 78 1823 Monthly Nurse Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription Emma Wallis Daughter Single Female 59 1842 Silk Doubler Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England
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PricklyHolly
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3 Jul 2016 14:49 |
I think her occupation reads.......Silk Dresser/Doubler
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Nottsgirl
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3 Jul 2016 14:49 |
Hi Prickles,
Thank you so much.
Wendy
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Nottsgirl
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3 Jul 2016 14:52 |
Hi Prickles and Maddie,
Thank you so much could be the same Emma and left her husband year of births and place of birth all match but will need to do some more work on them to be sure. :-(
Wendy
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Gee
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3 Jul 2016 15:06 |
Have you considered that James may have died and she reverted to her maiden name
Deaths Jun 1899 Burton James 59 Ashby Z. 7a 68
It is the correct James above. Death 13th May 1899. Probate: Whitwick, innkeeper to John Joseph Sharp, solicitor £69 10s 9d
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PricklyHolly
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3 Jul 2016 15:12 |
I am not seeing her in the 1911 census as Burton or Wallis.
Might this be her death........
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Deaths Mar 1911 (>99%) Wallis Emma 67 Basford 7b 125
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Nottsgirl
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3 Jul 2016 17:42 |
Hi Gins & Prickles,
Sorry had to go off line. I do believe it's the same Emma and I hadn't thought that James may have died so Thank you so much Gins. Prickles The death for Emma Wallis in 1911 could be her age is right so probably died before 1911 census and could be buried in Beeston Cemetery. I cannot find a possible death for her mother Elizabeth can you see her anywhere in deaths or on 1911 census.
Again you both for you help you are brilliant as always
:-D :-D
Wendy
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Gee
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3 Jul 2016 19:04 |
I can't see an obvious death for Elizabeth either.
Maybe the person who was the informant on her death certificate had no clue as to her age?
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Nottsgirl
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4 Jul 2016 07:03 |
Hi Gins,
Thank you for looking at least I know I didn't miss it. It could be that she moved from Beeston maybe going to live with one of her other children somewhere else. More work to do.
Wendy
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AustinQ
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4 Jul 2016 08:29 |
The Emma in 1901 is with her Mother in 1891, and 1881, so doesn't fit with living in Leicester with James Burton in 1891:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Brown Lane, Beeston, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Elizabeth Wallis Head Widower Male 58 1823 Nurse Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, Emma Wallis Daughter Single Female 39 1842 Silk Weaver Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, -----------------------------------------------
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Chapel Street, Beeston, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Elizabeth Wallis Head Widow Female 68 1823 Nurse Sick Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, Emma Wallis Daughter Single Female 47 1844 Silk Doubler Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, -----------------------------------------------------------
Perhaps the Emma/ Emily that married James Burton died? They were living in Ashby de la Zouch in 1891- so maybe this death?
Death: Name: Emma Burton Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Registration Year: 1894 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 51 Registration district: Ashby de la Zouch Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 52
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4 Jul 2016 17:13 |
Hi Austin,
OK so that means that there was another Emma Wallis born 1842/3 Stapleford so back to the drawing board for me and the 1881 census is wrong too for this Emma. Most of the Stapleford Wallis's are on my tree. This Wallis section was in Sneinton in 1871, will post details later. The death you found sounds promising.
Wendy
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4 Jul 2016 18:13 |
Hi,
Here's what I have on this Wallis line:
James Wallis born 1822 Stapleford married Elizabeth Daykin 24 Jan 1840 Elizabeth died July 1848 in Stapleford Chidren were: Hannah Daykin Wallis born 1841 Emma Wallis 1843 (see above posts) Sarah Ann Wallis 1846. James then married Elizabeth Gray 16 July 1850 in Beeston children were John James 1851 born Hackney Middlesex Elizabeth 1855 Stapleford Alfred 1862 Sneinton.
Now census I have are: 1851: Mare Street, Hackney Piece 1506, Folio 35, Pg 1 James, wife Elizabeth Daughters Emma and Sarah Ann, and son John James. 1861: Manvers Street, Sneinton, Nottingham Piece 2451, Folio 84, Pg 36 James wife Elizabeth daughters Hannah, Emma, Sarah Ann, Elizabeth, son John James
1871: South Street, Sneinton Piece 3505, Folio 42, Pg 27 James (names as John James) wife Elizabeth daughters Emma and Elizabeth, sons John James and Alfred.
Marriage I have for children are: 23 March 1862 Hannah Wallis to George Burrell, Hannah's father James Wallis and Emily (Emma) Wallis was a witness
1 Oct 1871 Elizabeth Wallis of South Street father James Wallis to Reuben Parker and John James Wallis was Witness.
25 Dec 1871 John James Wallis of South Street father down as John James Wallis to Catherine Smith. witnesses were Elizabeth and Reuben Parker (above marriage)
26 Jan 1884 Emily Wallis of South Street father James Wallis to James Burton witnesses were Stephen and Fanny Wallis her cousin's.
Cannot find a death for James or Elizabeth and cannot find family on 1881 census as looks like the Elizabeth and Emma I had on 1881 census is the wrong ones.
Wendy
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AustinQ
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4 Jul 2016 18:34 |
I'm not sure what Emma/ Emily you are following- sorry, it doesn't take much to confuse me! Who is your Ancestor (who are you trying to work back/ sideways from?)
So I'm just putting up a few records that may relate to either Emma, and perhaps you might spot the Emma you're looking for:
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Brown Lane, Beeston, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Samuel Webster Head - Male 78 1793 Labourer Eastwood Nottinghamshire, Hannah Webster Wife - Female 70 1801 - Beeston, Nottinghamshire, Emma Wallis Granddaughter - Female 29 1842 - Silk Winder Stapleford Nottinghamshire,
(This Emma is also with her Grandparents in 1851 and 1861)
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Oh, and then this: - is this the family you're trying follow (This Elizabeth born c1845)?
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription South Street, Sneinton, Radford, Nottinghamshire, England
John Jame Wallis Head - Male 48 1823 - Nottinghamshire, England Elizabeth Wallis Wife - Female 49 1822 - Nottinghamshire, England Emma Wallis Daughter - Female 26 1845 - Nottinghamshire, England John J Wallis Son - Male 20 1851 - London, Middlesex, England Elizabeth A Wallis Daughter - Female 16 1855 - Nottinghamshire, Alfred Wallis Son - Male 8 1863 - Nottinghamshire, England
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AustinQ
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4 Jul 2016 18:43 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 32, Walker Street, Snenton, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Walter Goddard Head Married Male 37 1844 Frame Work Knitter Nottinghamshire, Hannah Goddard Wife Married Female 38 1843 - Daybrook, Nottinghamshire, Thos Goddard Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Daybrook, Nottinghamshire, Arthur Goddard Son Single Male 1 1880 - Sneinton, Nottinghamshire Mary Lawson Martin Boarder Widow Female 43 1838 Lace Hand Leicestershire, Emma Wallis Boarder Single Female 35 1846 Hosiery Mender Stableford, Nottinghamshire,
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