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Rambling
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26 Aug 2019 15:40 |
Martin, will have another look through. But one thing you can bear in mind is that the 1921 census will be released on Findmypast in 3 years time, that might bring the breakthrough on Elizabeth.
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Rambling
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26 Aug 2019 16:05 |
Putting this here only because of surname and address wondering if the Mr Wilson who Elizabeth gallon married could be the son of this lady?
1939 register 80 Church Street, Runcorn R.D., Cheshire, England
Emma M Wilson 05 Oct 1865 Female Ironmonger & General Dealer Widowed 291 1
?? 1911 Census For England & Wales Church St Frodsham, Frodsham, Cheshire, England
John Wilson Head Married Male 54 1857 Builder And General Dealer Chester Emma Menes Wilson Wife Married Female 48 1863 Assisting In The Business Pitts Hill Staffordshire
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27 Aug 2019 09:02 |
Martin,
Have you tried one of those Ancestry DNA kits? That might be your best bet to find Elizabeth.
Rose
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Martin
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5 Sep 2019 17:29 |
I am looking for information on Elizabeth Gallon who was a listed as a Passenger on board ship leaving UK for Cape, South Africa as below Not sure if she is my grandmother, but i would see if it leads anywhere
E Gallon Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960 Collections from Great Britain, England Country South Africa Title MISS Ship Name Carmarthenshire Birth Year 1900 Age 27 Ship Departure Port Southampton Destination Port Cape
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ArgyllGran
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5 Sep 2019 17:41 |
Her last UK address is given as Sherbourne Hotel, WC - probably not helpful .
She has no occupation .
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ArgyllGran
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5 Sep 2019 17:52 |
However, tt's also possible that E Gallon is this woman in 1925
Edith May Gallon in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960Name: Edith May Gallon Arrival Age: 25 Birth Date: abt 1900 Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa Arrival Date: 8 Jun 1925 Port of Arrival: Southampton, England Ports of Voyage: Algoa Bay [Port Elizabeth]; Cape Town; Madeira; East London Ship Name: Windsor Castle Shipping Line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd Official Number: 146535
She's a masseuse, going to Trentham House, Emsworth.
Edith M Gallon in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Edith M Gallon Registration Date: Oct 1928 [Nov 1928] [Dec 1928] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Havant Inferred County: Hampshire Spouse: Noel H Whatley Volume Number: 2b Page Number: 1086
Returned to South Africa at some point: -
a son, Michael John Hughes Whatley was baptised in 1932 in St George's Church, Simonstown, South Africa. Parents Edith May and Noel Hughes.
Edith and Michael, plus a 15-year-old named Ian Hughes Whatley, returned to the UK in 1934, heading for Netherleigh, Minehead.
Michael later joined the Royal Navy.
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Gwyn in Kent
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6 Sep 2019 06:06 |
Has anyone checked electoral lists for the 1921 birth address in case another name can be linked to Elizabeth.?
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Martin
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6 Sep 2019 12:00 |
Thank you Rambling for your replies My dad's birthday certificate does mentioned address as 89 Church St, Runcorn, Cheshire My dad appears to be registered twice Chin L Dock & Chin L Wilson, his mother is Elizabeth Gallon & his father Chin Dock But had no idea his mother changed name to Elizabeth Wilson (Presume she married a Wilson?) I assume my Grandmother looked after my father until he was 3 years old because his father took him to China My father never saw his mother again and never spoke much about her That's the reason i am trying to research our roots Then i came across a Elizabeth gallon as a Passenger List bound for Cape, South Africa Again, she may not be the same person but it seems a coincidence that she just disappeared from scene
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Martin
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6 Sep 2019 12:00 |
Thank you Rambling for your replies My dad's birthday certificate does mentioned address as 89 Church St, Runcorn, Cheshire My dad appears to be registered twice Chin L Dock & Chin L Wilson, his mother is Elizabeth Gallon & his father Chin Dock But had no idea his mother changed name to Elizabeth Wilson (Presume she married a Wilson?) I assume my Grandmother looked after my father until he was 3 years old because his father took him to China My father never saw his mother again and never spoke much about her That's the reason i am trying to research our roots Then i came across a Elizabeth gallon as a Passenger List bound for Cape, South Africa Again, she may not be the same person but it seems a coincidence that she just disappeared from scene
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Martin
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6 Sep 2019 12:00 |
Thank you Rambling for your replies My dad's birthday certificate does mentioned address as 89 Church St, Runcorn, Cheshire My dad appears to be registered twice Chin L Dock & Chin L Wilson, his mother is Elizabeth Gallon & his father Chin Dock But had no idea his mother changed name to Elizabeth Wilson (Presume she married a Wilson?) I assume my Grandmother looked after my father until he was 3 years old because his father took him to China My father never saw his mother again and never spoke much about her That's the reason i am trying to research our roots Then i came across a Elizabeth gallon as a Passenger List bound for Cape, South Africa Again, she may not be the same person but it seems a coincidence that she just disappeared from scene
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Martin
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6 Sep 2019 12:04 |
Thanks Rose Yes, i had my DNA done but it shows my roots as being Asian and 11% European
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Flip
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7 Sep 2019 11:23 |
Which DNA test did you take? There are a number of sites which will allow you to upload your raw DNA results to check for matches and try to make contact with relatives, some are better than others.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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7 Sep 2019 19:41 |
Repeating what is already known
View UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: Chin Dock Gender: Female Age: 50 Birth Date: abt 1874 Departure Date: 1 Nov 1924 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: Hong Kong, China Ship Name: Elpenor Search Ship Database: Search for the Elpenor in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Blue Funnel Line Official Number: 137536 Master: Captain T W Hanney Occ laundryman
Home address 817 Church Street Runcorn
With Lee Chin aged 3 Intending to live in China
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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7 Sep 2019 19:59 |
If this is Elizabeth she was only 21 when the son was born
Mother's Maiden Surname: GALLON, ELIZABETH - GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS Volume 10A Page 779
Could she have already married a Wilson by then
But there’s no marriage showing
By the birth record her mum wasn’t married .is it possible she married a Wilson so Elizabeth was known as Wilson rather than marrying a Wilson
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Chris Ho :)
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7 Sep 2019 20:43 |
(not much help below!)
Chris :)
02 December 1925 - The Scotsman - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
STEAMSHIP MOVEMENTS ELPENOR, from Liverpool, arr. Penang, 29.
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Martin
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19 Apr 2020 16:03 |
I still haven't found what I was searching since over a year My Grandmother E Gallon (father's side) may have been the Passenger Listed leaving Southampton for Cape (South Africa) on Carmarthenshire ship in 1927 (born 1900) so she would have been 27 years. My father Chin Dock would have been 6 years of age. Can anybody help with finding any more information because I have come to a standstill Thanks Martin Lee (grandson)
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rootgatherer
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19 Apr 2020 19:06 |
If your grandmother is listed as Elizabeth Wilson formerly Gallon on your father's birth certificate in 1921, would she have travelled in 1927 using the surname Gallon rather than Wilson?
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Martin
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4 Dec 2020 13:59 |
Just a long shot to follow up on my grandmother Elizabeth Gallon who might be the same person that i am looking for: Her name appeared on a Passenger List as follows:
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 First Name E Last Name Gallon Title MISS Age Transcribed 27 Departure Year 1927 Departure Month 9 Departure Day 3 Ship Name Carmarthenshire Ship Departure Port Southampton Destination Port Cape State Country South Africa Destination Place CAPE Destination Place Country SOUTH AFRICA Gender Female Marital Status Occupation NIL Birth Year 1900 Birth Month Birth Day Country Of Birth Last Residence Country UK Address Ship Official Number 148766 Ship Master's First Name H Ship Master's Surname STRONG Ship Master's Title CAPT Shipping line UNION CASTLE MAIL S S CO LTD Departure Port SOUTHAMPTON Ship Destination Port SOUTH AFRICA Ship Destination Country SOUTH AFRICA Ship Square Feet Ship Registered Tonnage 12194 Number Of Passengers 621 Category Travel & migration Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960 Collections from Great Britain, England
How can i find out more information on what/where she ended up. It is just a coincidence her name turned up
Thanks Martin
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4 Dec 2020 14:22 |
The 'last permanent residence' for that single woman travelling in 1927 was NOT the UK - it was South Africa.
And there is ONLY the initial ‘E’ - NO actual forename
Who registered your father's birth?
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ErikaH
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4 Dec 2020 14:37 |
There was no-one registered to vote at 89 Church Street, Runcorn in 1921 or 1922
1920 ER is not transcribed on FMP
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