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Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Aug 2019 15:40

Martin, will have another look through. But one thing you can bear in mind is that the 1921 census will be released on Findmypast in 3 years time, that might bring the breakthrough on Elizabeth.

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Aug 2019 16:05

Putting this here only because of surname and address wondering if the Mr Wilson who Elizabeth gallon married could be the son of this lady?

1939 register
80 Church Street, Runcorn R.D., Cheshire, England

Emma M Wilson 05 Oct 1865 Female Ironmonger & General Dealer Widowed 291 1

??
1911 Census For England & Wales
Church St Frodsham, Frodsham, Cheshire, England


John Wilson Head Married Male 54 1857 Builder And General Dealer Chester
Emma Menes Wilson Wife Married Female 48 1863 Assisting In The Business Pitts Hill Staffordshire


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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 27 Aug 2019 09:02

Martin,

Have you tried one of those Ancestry DNA kits? That might be your best bet to find Elizabeth.

Rose

Martin

Martin Report 5 Sep 2019 17:29

I am looking for information on Elizabeth Gallon who was a listed as a Passenger on board ship leaving UK for Cape, South Africa as below
Not sure if she is my grandmother, but i would see if it leads anywhere


E Gallon
Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Collections from
Great Britain, England
Country
South Africa
Title
MISS
Ship Name
Carmarthenshire
Birth Year
1900
Age
27
Ship Departure Port
Southampton
Destination Port
Cape

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Sep 2019 17:41

Her last UK address is given as Sherbourne Hotel, WC - probably not helpful .

She has no occupation .

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Sep 2019 17:52

However, tt's also possible that E Gallon is this woman in 1925

Edith May Gallon
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960Name:
Edith May Gallon
Arrival Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1900
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 8 Jun 1925
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Algoa Bay [Port Elizabeth]; Cape Town; Madeira; East London
Ship Name: Windsor Castle
Shipping Line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 146535

She's a masseuse, going to Trentham House, Emsworth.



Edith M Gallon
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Edith M Gallon
Registration Date: Oct 1928
[Nov 1928]
[Dec 1928]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Havant
Inferred County: Hampshire
Spouse: Noel H Whatley
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1086


Returned to South Africa at some point: -

a son, Michael John Hughes Whatley was baptised in 1932 in St George's Church, Simonstown, South Africa.
Parents Edith May and Noel Hughes.

Edith and Michael, plus a 15-year-old named Ian Hughes Whatley, returned to the UK in 1934, heading for Netherleigh, Minehead.

Michael later joined the Royal Navy.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 6 Sep 2019 06:06

Has anyone checked electoral lists for the 1921 birth address in case another name can be linked to Elizabeth.?

Martin

Martin Report 6 Sep 2019 12:00

Thank you Rambling for your replies
My dad's birthday certificate does mentioned address as 89 Church St, Runcorn, Cheshire
My dad appears to be registered twice
Chin L Dock & Chin L Wilson, his mother is Elizabeth Gallon & his father Chin Dock
But had no idea his mother changed name to Elizabeth Wilson (Presume she married a Wilson?)
I assume my Grandmother looked after my father until he was 3 years old because his father took him to China
My father never saw his mother again and never spoke much about her
That's the reason i am trying to research our roots
Then i came across a Elizabeth gallon as a Passenger List bound for Cape, South Africa
Again, she may not be the same person but it seems a coincidence that she just disappeared from scene

Martin

Martin Report 6 Sep 2019 12:00

Thank you Rambling for your replies
My dad's birthday certificate does mentioned address as 89 Church St, Runcorn, Cheshire
My dad appears to be registered twice
Chin L Dock & Chin L Wilson, his mother is Elizabeth Gallon & his father Chin Dock
But had no idea his mother changed name to Elizabeth Wilson (Presume she married a Wilson?)
I assume my Grandmother looked after my father until he was 3 years old because his father took him to China
My father never saw his mother again and never spoke much about her
That's the reason i am trying to research our roots
Then i came across a Elizabeth gallon as a Passenger List bound for Cape, South Africa
Again, she may not be the same person but it seems a coincidence that she just disappeared from scene

Martin

Martin Report 6 Sep 2019 12:00

Thank you Rambling for your replies
My dad's birthday certificate does mentioned address as 89 Church St, Runcorn, Cheshire
My dad appears to be registered twice
Chin L Dock & Chin L Wilson, his mother is Elizabeth Gallon & his father Chin Dock
But had no idea his mother changed name to Elizabeth Wilson (Presume she married a Wilson?)
I assume my Grandmother looked after my father until he was 3 years old because his father took him to China
My father never saw his mother again and never spoke much about her
That's the reason i am trying to research our roots
Then i came across a Elizabeth gallon as a Passenger List bound for Cape, South Africa
Again, she may not be the same person but it seems a coincidence that she just disappeared from scene

Martin

Martin Report 6 Sep 2019 12:04

Thanks Rose
Yes, i had my DNA done but it shows my roots as being Asian and 11% European

Flip

Flip Report 7 Sep 2019 11:23

Which DNA test did you take? There are a number of sites which will allow you to upload your raw DNA results to check for matches and try to make contact with relatives, some are better than others.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Sep 2019 19:41

Repeating what is already known

View UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Add Alternative Information
Report issue
Name: Chin Dock
Gender: Female
Age: 50
Birth Date: abt 1874
Departure Date: 1 Nov 1924
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Hong Kong, China
Ship Name: Elpenor
Search Ship Database: Search for the Elpenor in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Blue Funnel Line
Official Number: 137536
Master: Captain T W Hanney
Occ laundryman

Home address 817 Church Street Runcorn

With Lee Chin aged 3
Intending to live in China

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Sep 2019 19:59

If this is Elizabeth she was only 21 when the son was born

Mother's Maiden Surname:
GALLON, ELIZABETH -
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS Volume 10A Page 779


Could she have already married a Wilson by then

But there’s no marriage showing

By the birth record her mum wasn’t married .is it possible she married a Wilson so Elizabeth was known as Wilson rather than marrying a Wilson

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Sep 2019 20:43

(not much help below!)

Chris :)

02 December 1925 - The Scotsman - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

STEAMSHIP MOVEMENTS
ELPENOR, from Liverpool, arr. Penang, 29.

Martin

Martin Report 19 Apr 2020 16:03

I still haven't found what I was searching since over a year
My Grandmother E Gallon (father's side) may have been the Passenger Listed leaving Southampton for Cape (South Africa) on Carmarthenshire ship in 1927 (born 1900) so she would have been 27 years. My father Chin Dock would have been 6 years of age. Can anybody help with finding any more information because I have come to a standstill
Thanks
Martin Lee (grandson)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 19 Apr 2020 19:06

If your grandmother is listed as Elizabeth Wilson formerly Gallon on your father's birth certificate in 1921, would she have travelled in 1927 using the surname Gallon rather than Wilson?

Martin

Martin Report 4 Dec 2020 13:59

Just a long shot to follow up on my grandmother Elizabeth Gallon who might be the same person that i am looking for: Her name appeared on a Passenger List as follows:

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
First Name E
Last Name Gallon
Title MISS
Age Transcribed 27
Departure Year 1927
Departure Month 9
Departure Day 3
Ship Name Carmarthenshire
Ship Departure Port Southampton
Destination Port Cape
State
Country South Africa
Destination Place CAPE
Destination Place Country SOUTH AFRICA
Gender Female
Marital Status
Occupation NIL
Birth Year 1900
Birth Month
Birth Day
Country Of Birth
Last Residence Country
UK Address
Ship Official Number 148766
Ship Master's First Name H
Ship Master's Surname STRONG
Ship Master's Title CAPT
Shipping line UNION CASTLE MAIL S S CO LTD
Departure Port SOUTHAMPTON
Ship Destination Port SOUTH AFRICA
Ship Destination Country SOUTH AFRICA
Ship Square Feet
Ship Registered Tonnage 12194
Number Of Passengers 621
Category Travel & migration
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Collections from Great Britain, England



How can i find out more information on what/where she ended up. It is just a coincidence her name turned up

Thanks
Martin

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Dec 2020 14:22

The 'last permanent residence' for that single woman travelling in 1927 was NOT the UK - it was South Africa.

And there is ONLY the initial ‘E’ - NO actual forename

Who registered your father's birth?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Dec 2020 14:37

There was no-one registered to vote at 89 Church Street, Runcorn in 1921 or 1922

1920 ER is not transcribed on FMP