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Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
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Atherley Bessie Ann Portsmouth 2b 1156
Gallon Mary Elizabeth Portsmouth 2b 1156
Plowman Kate Christchurch 2b 1156
Reed Major Stanley Portsmouth 2b 1156
Wilson Thomas Tinnion Portsmouth 2b 1156
(is that above?)
Chris :)
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
(use above, it's also free!)
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that's this one
Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
Gallon Mary Elizabeth Portsmouth 2b 1156
Wilson Thomas Tinnion Portsmouth 2b 1156
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That's the one I found and disproved earlier ............... she would have been in her late 50s in 1921!
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Re-posting my earlier posts on Mary Elizabeth .................
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Working on the principle that Elizabeth Gallon might be older, I looked for marriages between a Mr Wilson and an Elizabeth Gallon form 1900 to 1921 ....... i didn't look before 1900. The following was the only one that I found on freebmd
Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
Gallon Mary Elizabeth Portsmouth 2b 1156
Wilson Thomas Tinnion Portsmouth 2b 1156
This looks like Thomas Tinnion's Birth Registration .....
Births Sep 1872 (>99%)
WILSON Thomas Tinnion Whitehaven 10b 566
I then found this Probate Record on ancestry .............
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Thomas Tinnion Wilson
Probate Date: 8 Feb 1917
Registry: Exeter
Death Date: 12 Nov 1916
Death Place: Devon, England
from image:-
of Mill Street, Sidmouth, Devonshire, grocer, died 12 November 1916 at the Devon County Asylum, Exminster, Devonshire. Probate granted Exeter 8 February 1917 to Thomas Gallon, engineer, and Mary Elizabeth Wilson, widow.
Effects £454 1s
The following death registration matches the probate record, St Thomas is the Registration District that includes Exminster ...........
Deaths Dec 1916 (>99%)
Wilson Thomas T 43 St.Thomas 5b 88
But then my possible theory came to a screeching halt %3A-%28
If the information on the 1901 and 1911 Censuses is accurate, Mary Elizabeth would be too old to have a child in 1921 %3A-%28
1901 Census
Name: Thomas F Wilson <<<<< it is Thomas T on the image
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary E Wilson
Mother: Mary A Wilson
Birth Place: Larton, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Portsmouth
Search Photos: Search for 'Portsmouth' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Southsea St Bartholomew
Town: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsmouth
Sub-registration district: Kingston and East Southsea
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 987
Folio: 120
Page Number: 17
Household schedule number: 134
Mary A Wilson 55 b.ca 1846, Worthington, Cumberland, Widow, Living on Own Means
Thomas F Wilson 29 b.ca 1872, Lrton, Cumberland, Son, Tea Dealer (Grocer
Mary E Wilson 36 b.ca 1865, Camden Town, London, Daughter-in-law
Address:- 54 Beach Farm Rd
1911 Census
Name: Thomas Tannior Wilson
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Orton, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Portsmouth
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County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: 54 Francis Avenue, Southsea
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Grocers Assistant Co Operative Society
Registration district: Portsmouth
Registration District Number: 90
Sub-registration district: Kingston and East Southsea
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 223
Piece: 5537
Thomas Tannior Wilson 39
Mary Elizabeth Wilson 45 b.ca 1866, Camden Town, London
Married 10 years, no children
SylviaInCanada Report Edit Delete 25 Jun 2016 05:42
Mary Elizabeth seems to have certainly been born ca 1866
This looks like her in 1881 (from FMP as ancestry has stopped working for me) .....
1881 Census
George Gallon Head Married Male 44 1837 Rly Engine Driver Northumberland, England
Emma Gallon Wife Married Female 46 1835 - Edenham, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Elizbth Gallon Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Domestic Servant Camden Town, Middlesex, England
George Edw Gallon Son Single Male 13 1868 Labourer In Printing Works Battersea, Surrey, England
Eva Eliza Gallon Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Battersea, Surrey, England
Wm Taylor Gallon Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Battersea, Surrey, England
Emma Gallon Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Battersea, Surrey, England
John Gallon Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Battersea, Surrey, England
Isabella Gallon Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Battersea, Surrey, England
Herbert Gallon Son Single Male 1 1880 - Battersea, Surrey, England
Eliza Herbert Sister In Law - Female 45 1836 Domestic Servant Unemployed Edenham, Lincolnshire, England
SylviaInCanada Report Edit Delete 25 Jun 2016 05:48
I really doubt that someone born in 1864-1866 would have had a child in 1921, at the age of ca 55
Back to the drawing board!
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It was a good theory while it lasted!!!!!
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as a thought could Elizabeth Gallon married before she married a Wilson ??
that would account for no marriage as Elizabeth Gallon to a Wilson.
Gallon surname seems to be a orientated around Tynemouth area 1910 /1930
found very few birth's for Wilson - mth Gallon all within Tynemouth
Mary C Wilson 1912 Tynemouth parents maybe William Wilson and Sarah Gallon = 1912
only these up to 1930 mth Gallon --- may have been 2 mothers nee Gallon
going by 2 births in 1924
Chin L Wilson 1921 Runcorn
Frank Wilson 1922 Tynemouth
Gladys Wilson Sep1924 Tynemouth
Rhoda Wilson Dec 1924 Tynemouth
Alan F Wilson 1928 Tynemouth
Mavis
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Thanks Mavis
I have no information regarding my grandmother Elizabeth Gallon other than she had my father in 1921 she registered her name as Elizabeth Wilson so i presume she was married before my dad's birth (also my dad's father is not Wilson) It would help if i can find my grandmother's birth certificate but all i remembered my dad saying was that she was Welsh, the only address i have is 89 Church St Runcorn
Reading from the replies i have seen, it may be possible that Wilson was killed (WW1)
Thanks
Martin
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there dos'nt seem to be any Elizabeth Gallon's in Wales1901 or 1911
Mavis
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You were asking about Mabel Wong on your other thread but this is better posted here
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1360786
I was wondering if this is Mabel' parents:
1939
Household (3 People)
31 Wavertree Road , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England
Eleanor M Moe (Foo,Wong) 07 Feb 1910 Female Housewife Married 148 3
1 more person who is officially closed
Chak M Wong 23 Aug 1903 Male Laundry Man Married 148 2
1 more person who is officially closed
King Chung 19 Mar 1894 Male Laundry Man Single 148 4
1 more person who is officially closed
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Mabel' mom?
ELEANOR MABEL MOE (the death certificate will give the informants name)
GenderFemale
Birth day 7
Birth month 2
Birth year 1910
Death quarter 4
Death year 1973
District LIVERPOOL
CountyLancashire
Volume10D
Page808
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Marriages Dec 1957
FOO Eleanor M MOE Southampton 6b 1126
LOO Moe FOO Southampton 6b 1126
MOE Loo FOO Southampton 6b 1126
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Last name CHAK M WONG
Gender Unknown
Birth year 1903
Age 37
Death quarter 4
Death year 1940
District LIVERPOOL SOUTH
County Lancashire
Volume8B
Page282
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Probate:
CHAK M WONG
Died 24 Dec 1940 of 31 Wavertree Road. Admin to: Eleanor Mabel Wong £337.13
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(grief Gins, Moe Loo Foo, all bordering on nightmare lol, concentration needed or what!)
(probably related somewhere to Foo from other 'Thread)
Chris :)
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Chris
Bit of a mare with the names or what!
Hopefully Martin might recognise a name or three! Eleanor' second name might well fit, with the daughter being called Mabel
Martin, if Mabel Wong has passed away, you can upload her death certificate to FMP to ask for the (1939 register) record to be opened. You can see on the info I posted that there are records closed and one of them might be Mabel
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Dear all
Thanks again for your inputs, i really do appreciate all your efforts putting together bits of information
My mother Mable Lee (formerly Wong) is still alive living in Los Angeles, California, she is 87 and her memory is not what it use to be and digging up the past might cause her undue stress
Considering she has had 10 children and worked 18 hours a day in the laundry business i think she has done well
I have no idea about my grandparents on my mom's side, she has 2 sisters still living in LA, one died this year (auntie Annie)
when i go over to see her early next year i willl ask her about names you mentioned, certainly the names mentioned above dont ring any bells
:-)
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Hello Mavis
On my dad's birth certificate,his mother's name was Elizabeth Wilson (formerly Gallon) in 1921 so she either was married or had her name changed, i really dont know,i can only reason that my grandmother was born somewhere between 1986 & 1904 assuming that she was 35 when she had my dad in 1921, which seems unlikely (i reckon she must have been in her 20's when she had my dad
Maybe i am wrong but i am clutching at straws here
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How can i find out more information about my grand mother when all i have is her name on my dad's birth certificate but there is no mention when she was born, where she came from, what her background family was etc. Her address at that time (1921) when my father was born was 89 Church St, Runcorn, Cheshire. I have exhausted the search but seem to come up against a brick wall.
I really appreciate all the information i have gained so far from those who have helped me but the last piece of the puzzle is still missing
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only birth's 1921 Cheshire
Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Wilson Chin L Gallon Runcorn 8a 385
Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Dock Chin L Gallon Runcorn 8a 385
note the same reg number
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this Elizabeth gallon is born 1900
Births Sep 1900 (>99%)
Gallon Elizabeth S. Shields 10a 779
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could this be the marriage for Elizabeth
Marriages Jun 1921 (>99%)
Gallon Eliza C Lee Glendale 10b 875 Scan available - click to view
Lee Robert Gallon Glendale 10b 875
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birth for the above
Births Jun 1895 (>99%)
Gallon Eliza Catherine Glendale 10b 476
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Malyon .......
you posted ..........
malyon Report 17 Jul 2016 17:24
this Elizabeth gallon is born 1900
Births Sep 1900 (>99%)
Gallon Elizabeth S. Shields 10a 779
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this birth registration was posted on p 2 by Chris Ho
It is really confusing when you, or any of of us, post information that has already been posted.
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I am still unable to find more information about my grandmother Elisabeth Wilson (Gallon), can anyone help?
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