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Help again please, I have started a new thread, I have done everything that you good people have told me to do but to now avail. I have tried to contact Lyn Newman without any success maybe she has left GR now. William Trotman b1856-1919 married Joanne Woodward b.1856-1942 and all I am trying to do is to confirm their children. I have looked at Scribes Alcove, also the census records but cannot find anything. Lyn Newman is a descendant of this family am would have all the answers.
They came from Stone in Gloucestershire.

Regards Keith

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Peddington Post Farm, Peddington Elm, Berkeley, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England


William Trotman Head Married Male 35 1856 Dairy Man Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England Transcription
Joanna Trotman Wife Married Female 37 1854 - Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England
Frederick Trotman Son Single Male 14 1877 Errand Boy Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England
Minnie Trotman Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England
Lillie Trotman Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England
Harry Trotman Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Blackhall, Clapton, Ham and Stone, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England

William Trotman Head Married Male 45 1856 Farm Labourer Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England
Joanna Trotman Wife Married Female 47 1854 - Gloucestershire, England
Albert H Trotman Son Single Male 17 1884 General Labourer Gloucestershire, England
Charles W Trotman Son - Male 9 1892 - Gloucestershire, England


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Blackhall Berkeley, Ham and Stone, Gloucestershire, England

William Trotman Head Married Male General Labourer 55 1856 Glos Pedington
Johanna Trotman Wife Married Female - 57 1854 Glos Rockhampton
Charles Trotman Son Single Male Dairyman 19 1892 Glos Pedington

Trotman Household (2 People)
Marybrook Street , Thornbury R.D., Gloucestershire, England

Charles W Trotman 11 Nov 1891 School Caretaker
Gwendoline G Trotman 27 Mar 1893 School Canteen Cook



Trotman Household (1 Person)
Salter Street , Thornbury R.D., Gloucestershire, England

Johanna Trotman 26 Nov 1853 Female Domestic Duties Single 60 1

Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
TROTMAN William Thornbury 6a 363
Woodward Joanna Thornbury 6a 363

mistranscribed in 1881


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
?, Ham with Stone, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England

William Tratman Head Married Male 25 1856 Labourer Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England
Joanna Tratman Wife Married Female 27 1854 Labourers Wife Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England
Ernest F Tratman Son Single Male 4 1877 - Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England
Minnie L Tratman Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England

note may have been a slight name variation?
Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
TRATMAN Minnie Louise Thornbury 6a 227

Births Jun 1877 (>99%)
TRATMAN Ernest Frederick Thornbury 6a 227

Possible but you would need to check

Births Jun 1882 (>99%)
Trotman Lily Rosina Thornbury 6a 235


England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) LILY ROSENA
Last name TROTMAN
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1910
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ LILY ROSENA TROTMAN married one of these people
HORACE SENECA BENNETT <<<<
District THORNBURY
District number -
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Volume 6A
Page 379
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain



Lily married Horace Seneca Bennett

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Stone Falfield Gloucestershire, Gloucestershire, England


Horace Seneca Bennett Head Married Male Carter 30 1881 Berkeley Gloucestershire Transcription
Lilly Rosina Bennett Wife Married Female - 28 1883 Peddington Gloshire <<<<<<<<
Horace Seneca Bennett Son Single Male - 0 1911 Black Hall Nr Berkeley Gloucestershire

The 1911 census says that there were 5 children born, all still living.

Albert Harry seems to use second name also?

Births Jun 1884 (>99%)
Tratman Albert Harry Thornbury 6a 232


marriage;
First name(s) ALBERT HARRY
Last name TROTMAN
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1907
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ALBERT HARRY TROTMAN married one of these people
MAUD MARY SAVAGE
District THORNBURY
District number -
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Volume 6A
Page 401
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ham Berkeley, Ham and Stone, Gloucestershire, England


Henry Trotman Head Married Male Estate Labourer 27 1884 Glo S Pedington Transcription
Maude Trotman Wife Married Female - 27 1884 Glo S Sharpness Transcription
Gladys Trotman Daughter - Female - 2 1909 Glo S Ham



1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Trotman Household (2 People)
Smarts Green , Dursley R.D., Gloucestershire, England

Harry A Trotman 08 Mar 1884 Agricultural Estate Foreman
Maud M Trotman 20 Sep 1883 Household Duties

Albert harry's daughter, someone else has her in their tree on here, maybe worth a message if you haven't already.


First name(s) GLADYS SYLVIA
Last name TROTMAN
Birth year 1908
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District THORNBURY
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Volume 6A
Page 229
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

TROTMAN Amy Blanche TROTMAN TROTMAN WOODWARD 1870 Stroud Dursley, Wotton-under-Edge 12 364
TROTMAN Charles William TROTMAN TROTMAN WOODWARD 1891 Stroud Thornbury, Berkeley 19 23
TROTMAN Edward Vincent TROTMAN TROTMAN WOODWARD 1867 Stroud Dursley, Wotton-under-Edge 11 306
TROTMAN Helena TROTMAN TROTMAN WOODWARD 1868 Stroud Dursley, Wotton-under-Edge 12 27
TROTMAN Lily Rosina TROTMAN TROTMAN WOODWARD 1882 Stroud Thornbury, Berkeley 15 264

Gloucestershire BMD Indexes

(any above relating perhaps?, from below link. Mother Maiden Name Woodward)

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx

Chris :)

As per Chris's post this is helena and Amy Blanche 1891

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Post Office, Barrs Lane, North Nibley, Dursley, Gloucestershire, England


Julia Trotman Head Widow Female 52 1839 Postmistress North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England
Helena Trotman Daughter Single Female 22 1869 Ladies Maid Domestic Servant North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England
Amy Blanche Trotman Daughter Single Female 20 1871 Post Office Assistant North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England
Harrold Woodward Nephew - Male 9 1882 Scholar North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England

Family in 1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Road, North Nibley, Dursley, Gloucestershire, England


Julia Trotman Head Widow Female 40 1841 Post Mistress (Cso) North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Transcription
Vincent Trotman Son Single Male 14 1867 - North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England
Amy Trotman Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Woodward Mother Widow Female 73 1808 - Frocester, Gloucestershire, England
Albert Powell Visitor Single Male 4 1877 Scholar North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England


and 1871

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Gloucester Road Gillmans House, North Nibley, Dursley, Gloucestershire, England


George Trotman Head - Male 34 1837 - Gloucestershire, England
Julia Trotman Wife - Female 32 1839 - Gloucestershire, England
Edward V Trotman Son - Male 4 1867 - Gloucestershire, England
Helena Trotman Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Gloucestershire, England
Amy B Trotman Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Gloucestershire, England
Julia Bye Servant - Female 13 1858 - Gloucestershire, England

So this marriage

Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%)
Trotman George Bristol 6a 5
WOODWARD Julia Bristol 6a 5

I'm not seeing a specific link between the two families of Trotman/Woodward but just for reference this is Joanna before marriage to William Trotman

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Woodend Lane, Hill, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England


Henry Woodward Head Married Male 37 1824 Agricultural Labourer Hill, Gloucestershire, England
Hannah Woodward Wife Married Female 41 1820 - Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England
Caroline Woodward Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Rockhampton, Gloucestershire, England
Samuel Woodward Son - Male 9 1852 - Rockhampton, Gloucestershire, England
Joanah Woodward Daughter - Female 7 1854 - Rockhampton, Gloucestershire, England

A thousand thanks for all your help Rambling rose and Chris Ho, what you have proved for me is that there were two families headed by a William Trotman and a wife of the same name also. I have to say I am useless at navigating the records.

Regards Keith

Following are Baptisms parents William & Johanna/ Joanne/Joanna Trotman/Tratman

Minnie Louise Trotman 1 Aug 1880 abode Histfield Father's occ Labourer

Lily Rosina Trotman 28 May 1882 abode Pedrington Father's occ Labourer

Charles William Trotman 17 Feb 1892 abode Pedrington Father's occ Labourer

Ernest Frederick Tratman 1 Apr 1877 abode Berkeley Father's occ Sawyer

Albert Harry Trotman 17 Apr 1884 abode Peddington Father's occupation Labourer

Unfortunately, the baptismal record does not have a birth date.

Marriage of William Trotman & Joanna Woodward

Name: William Trotman occ Sawyer
Marriage Date: 5 Jul 1876, Hill Parish, Gloucestershire
Age: 20
Father: Andrew Trotman occ Game Keeper
Bride: Joanna Woodward occ Servant
Age: 22
Father: Henry Woodward occ Labourer
Witnesses: Samuel Woodward & Caroline Woodward
Event Type: Marriage
Parish: Hill, Gloucestershire
Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts

1871 Father Andrew here is an under gamekeeper

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pedington, Berkeley, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England


Andrew Trotman Head - Male 45 1826 - Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Ann Trotman Wife - Female 35 1836 - Gloucestershire, England
William Trotman Son - Male 15 1856 - Gloucestershire, England
George Trotman Son - Male 13 1858 - Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Trotman Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Gloucestershire, England
Louisa Trotman Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Gloucestershire, England
Minnie Trotman Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Gloucestershire, England
John Trotman Son - Male 2 1869 - Gloucestershire, England
Frederick Trotman Son - Male 0 1871 - Gloucestershire, England

Here is a transcript of the George Trotman & Julia Woodward Marriage

First name(s) Julia
Last name Woodward
Sex Female
Marital status Single
Marriage year 1866
Marriage date 29 Mar 1866
Marriage place Montpelier, St Bartholomew, Gloucestershire, England
Father's first name(s) Samuel
Father's last name Woodward
Spouse's first name(s) George
Spouse's last name Trotman
Spouse's sex Male
Spouse marital status Single
Spouse's father's first name(s) Simon
Spouse's father's last name Trotman
Place Montpelier, St Bartholomew
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Record set Gloucestershire, Bristol Marriage Index 1644-1939
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory

Many thanks again all, I have progress today with your help, without it, I am at a loss.

Regards Keith

Londonbelle that was very useful the baptism dates for the children and one other thing I note the different spelling in Joanne/Johanna.

Many thanks.

Keith

Hi Keith

I am a Berkeley resident (lucky me).

Andrew Trotman would have been living on the Berkeley Estate, so that's who he probably worked for as a Gamekeeper. Just adding a little bit of colour!

Cheers
Christine