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GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 18 May 2016 15:44

Detail,
I was going over your previous thread re James Alexander Cameron b Jul 1944 in Edinburgh and died in Poole. Dorset in 2013
He was the son of Alexander John Cameron with 2nd wife Agnes Cunningham.
Agnes Cunningham was already 30yrs old when she married in 1936.

A child born 1944 is 8yrs after her marriage and she would already be in her late 30's at this time
I assume that his father, Alexander John Cameron will also have older children from his 1st marriage with Martha Buchanan and perhaps more with Agnes.

I agree with what was said on your previous thread.
There was no child named James Alexander Cameron born Edinburgh 5yrs either side of 1944.
Is James Alexander Cameron the name on Sue's birth cert?
Who registered his 2013 death? Was it Sue or someone else?
Can I assume that his date of birth actually came from his passport rather than a birth certificate?
Please ask Sue where the DOB came from.

Lots of questions but I dont think his birth name was James Alexander.
I wonder if his name was Ian Cameron

I'm not certain exactly where and when his father died but my guess is that his mother was the woman who died in Edinburgh in 1985 as the death index on SP fits her profile.
Agnes Cameron, other name Cunningham age 78

Am I correct in assuming that this son, known as James Alexander, his Canadian wife and children all travelled from Canada to Scotland for this funeral?

One last question.
What document does Sue hold that states her father was the son of Alexander John Cameron with Agnes Cunningham?


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 May 2016 17:18

If GlasgowLass's suggestion that his name was Ian is feasible, there was a birth of an Ian James Cameron in Edinburgh in 1944, and also a John James Cameron.

Ian is Gaelic for John - but these two births are two separate people.

There's also an Alastair Hugh born Edinburgh 1944. Alastair (and other spellings) is Gaelic for Alexander.

And an Ian with no middle name.

Why do you think his name might have been Ian, GL?
Because his grandfather was from Ross-shire and had the middle name of John, perhaps , with possible Gaelic connection?

Incidentally, his grandfather was born in Fodderty, per 1901 census posted on page 1, near but not actually Dingwall.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 18 May 2016 17:47

ArgyllGran,
I wondered about Ian because it's his son's name.

I have no doubt that the Cameron family moved from Oban to Edinburgh but, the question is when did they move?

Alexander John was living in Oban when he married his 1st wife in 1924
She died in Oban in 1935 and Alexander John was STILL living there where he remarried in 1936.
If JA had children from his 1st marriage, I expect that they would be born in Oban.
Depending on when JA and Agnes moved to Edinburgh, they too may have had children born in Oban.

I know they were in Edinburgh by 1960's but it doesn't necessarily mean their children were born there.
This needs a GRO visit... LOL

Re: father JA Cameron Snr who died in 1928
I misread his obituary and thought it I saw that he was born in Dingwall.
Having re read it, I see he was born in the county of Ross and left a legacy to the hospital in Dingwall.. DOH!

Detail

Detail Report 18 May 2016 18:04

Hi
It was James Alexander Cameron carer Brain James Daventry registered his death,

Which is the same name on the passport
DOB it says 23 July 1944


Alexander John Cameron and Agnes was in Oban.


GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 18 May 2016 18:07

That's the point Detail.
There is NO birth record for anyone with this name born in Edinburgh 1944

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 May 2016 18:23

Re death of Alexander John (jr) -

As his wife Agnes died in Edinburgh, maybe one of these is his death ??

1972 CAMERON ALEXANDER JOHN M 73 HAYMARKET EDINBURGH CITY/LOTHIAN REGION 730/00 0145

1975 CAMERON ALEXANDER JOHN M 77
LEITH EDINBURGH CITY/EDINBURGH 732/00 0361

These are the only deaths for that name, in Edinburgh, 1936 - 99

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 18 May 2016 18:40

Yes, I saw those ArgyllGran but, somewhere on the other thread Detail says he died in 1962.
I don't know where?
The friend who is looking for half siblings in Canada would NOT have known this grandfather if he died in 1962 which contradicts the info that I was given

From Detail 18.04
"Alexander John Cameron and Agnes was in Oban."

What are you referring to?

Detail

Detail Report 18 May 2016 18:46

thats what is on her birth certificate and his birth certificate 1944
Edit :
Sue father was James Alexander Cameron born 1944 death 2013

The ones in Canada The kids have the same father as sue

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GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 18 May 2016 19:49

"thats what is on her birth certificate and his birth certificate 1944"

Does that mean Sue has James's 1944 birth cert?