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Trying to find a marriage of Robert E Marshall and Lily Frances Parish.
Their son, John J Marshall born 1912, and birth certificate gives above information.
Robert was listed a Solicitor. He was born in Southampton. Ethel.

1939:
Marshall Household (3 People) "Tower View" Thisselt Road , Canvey Island U.D., Essex, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Robert E Marshall 18 Sep 1860 Barristers Clerk (Retired)
Lily F Marshall 13 Jun 1880 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Lily F A Marshall 16 Sep 1909 Unpaid Domestic Duties

Dea x

Who was born in Southampton please?

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
Marshall John J P Parish Edmonton 3a 928

Robert was:

Births Dec 1860 (>99%)
MARSHALL Robert Edward Southampton 2c 12


Dea x

Sons birth


England & Wales births 1837-2006


First Name JOHN J P
Last Name MARSHALL
Birth Year 1912
Gender Male
Mother's Maiden Name PARISH
Year 1912
Country England
County Middlesex
Event Quarter 2
District EDMONTON
District Number
Volume 3A
Page 928
Entry Number
Line Number 146
DOR
Category Births, Marriages & Deaths
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
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There doesn't seem to be a marriage for him in England or Wales.

Perhaps they didn't marry?

Robert Edward Marshall in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Robert Edward Marshall
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 17 Oct 1860
Baptism Place: All Saints, Southampton, Hampshire, England
Father: Joseph Marshall
Mother: Henrietta Frances

I can't spot him on the 1911 census.

Possibly the Lily F A Marshall born 1909...

Lily Frances A Marshall in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Lily Frances A Marshall
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Romford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 570


Lily Frances A Marshall in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Lily Frances A Marshall
Birth Date: 16 Sep 1909 >>>>>>>>>>Yes it is!
Date of Registration: Mar 1979
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Southend on Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 3359

1901


Name: Robert E Marshall
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Lodger
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Southampton, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Preston
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Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Steyning
Sub-registration district: Shoreham
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 939
Folio: 153
Page Number: 23
Household schedule number: 146
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry G Hollies 67
Jane E Hollies 49
William G Hollies 77
Bernard Harben 3
Eileen Methofer 1
Robert E Marshall 40<<<<<<< married

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Dec 1961 (>99%)
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MARSHALL Lily F P 81 Rochford 4a 711


Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Dec 1949 (>99%)
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Marshall Robert E 89 Thurrock 4a 800


Andy

This appears to be Lily Frances Parish.......

Lily Parish in the London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911
Name: Lily Parish
Age: 8
Birth Date: 13 Jun 1880 <<<<<<<<
School: Woods Road School
Borough: Southwark
Admission Date: 10 Sep 1888
Parent: George .....78 Brayard/s? Road


Lily Frances Parish in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Lily Frances Parish
Registration Year: 1880
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Stepney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 401

A copy of the birth cert would set you on the right track...........for info as to father George's occupation and who her mother was.

Robert 1891. Solicitor and single.


Name:Robert E Marshall
Age:30
Estimated birth year:abt 1861
Relation:Lodger Gender:
Male
Where born:Sonthampton
Civil Parish:Solihull
Ecclesiastical parish:Solihull
Town:Solihull
County/Island:Warwickshire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district:Solihull
ED, institution, or vessel:1
Neighbors:
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Piece:2461 Folio:
12
Page Number:17
Household Members:
Name
Age


Alexander Woods 54
Jane F Woods 48
May Jenkins 14
Robert E Marshall 30

Andy

Robert Edward Marshall
Probate Date: 31 Jan 1950
Registry: London, England
Death Date: 16 Nov 1949
Death Place: Essex, England

Probate to Lily Frances Parish Marshall, widow



Lily Frances Parish Marshall
Probate Date: 30 Jan 1962
Registry: London, England
Death Date: 12 Dec 1961
Death Place: Essex, England


Administration to Gladys Beryl Kelsey, married woman.


Isn't it a bit unusual for an English woman to retain her maiden surname and just tag her married name on to it.........unless of course she wasn't married but was known by her partner's surname?

1891 Census states that Robert is Married ...have checked the Image

Census details
First name(s) Robert E
Last name Marshall
Relationship Lodger
Marital status Married
Gender Male
Age 30
Birth year 1861
Occupation Solicitor
Birth town Southampton
Birth town as transcribed SOUTHAMPTON
Birth county -
Birth place -
Street High Street
Town Solihull
Parish Solihull
City -
County Warwickshire
Registration district Solihull
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 2461
Folio 12
Page 17
Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

This is the only marriage that I can find between 1881 (not married) and 1891 (married)

Marriages Jun 1884
Edmonds John Wiggins Guildford 2a 119
Fenn Marion Emily Guildford 2a 119
MARSHALL Robert Edward Guildford 2a 119
Nicholson Emily Alice Guildford 2a 119

There is a marriage between Marion Emily Fee and John Wiggins Edmonds on 12 Apr 1884, so Robert Edward married Emily Alice Nicholson.

Just looking at the image of the Marriage for Marion & John and the Marriage for Robert Edward Marshall and Emily Alice Nicholson is above it.

Details are

Date 8 Apr 1884 - Parish Church of Stoke-next-Guildford
Name Robert Edward Marshall age 23 occ Solicitor
Abode Stoke
Father Joseph Marshall occ Physician deceased
Bride Emily Alice Nicholson aged 20
Abode Guildford (St Nicholas)
Father Thomas Nicholson occ Gentleman
Witnesses Mary Augusta Marshall, Thomas Nicholson, Elizabeth Mary Nicholson & Frances S Marshall

That's him Londonbelle! Well found. So he wasn't free to marry unless Emily died or he divorced her.

On the 1861 census his father Joseph is a G.P.

There is an article here about him neglecting his wife. Give me a wee while and I will type it here.

Leicester Chronicle 23 November 1889


A LOCAL SOLICITOR'S MAINTENANCE CASE

WIFE "ON THE PARISH"


At the Nuneaton Petty Sessions on Thursday, Robert Edward Marshall, solicitor of Nuneaton, Hinckley and Leicester was summoned on the information of MR J Estlin, clerk to the Nuneaton Board of Guardians, for neglecting to maintain his wife, Emily Alice Marshall and thereby allowing her to become chargeable to the Common Fund of the Nuneaton Union-- PC Thompson proved leaving a duplicate of the summons with Mr J H Brownson, at the Abbey House, defendant's last known place of abode. Mr Estley briefly explained the circumstances of the case and said the parties had been married about 5 years. Differences then arose which led to a separation and Mrs Marshall's father sued defendant for the maintenance of his wife. The case was referred to arbitration and an award was made of 30s per week but, according to his instructions, not one shilling had been paid in respect of the same. Mrs Marshall's father had stated his inability to keep his daughter, and she had been admitted to the Workhouse, the Guardians giving instructions for proceedings to be taken under the Vagrant Act. Mr Estlin was then sworn, and said that, to the best of his belief, defendant was able to maintain his wife and he (witness) knew that she had become chargeable to the Union. A warrant was issued for defendant's arrest.



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Worcester Journal 23 November 1889

Emily Alice Nicholson in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Emily Alice Nicholson
Registration Year: 1864
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 9



Emily A Marshall in the 1891 England Census
Name: Emily A Marshall
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Kings Norton
Ecclesiastical parish: Moseley
Town: Moseley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England


Household Members:

Jonathan F Cuff 45
Mary E Cuff 34
Mary E N Cuff 16
Samuel F Cuff 15
Katherine A Cuff 13
Maud M J Cuff 12
Katherine Jackson 64
Emily A Marshall 26 (Married) Clerk Insurance Office

Emily has joined the Salvation Army in 1901. A Sergeant......married

She claims to be widowed in 1911.

Huddersfield Chronicle 04 January 1890

THE BANKRUPTCY ACT

(Receiving Orders)

Robert Edward Marshall, Abbey Street, Nuneaton, solicitor.

What a rotter!!


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007?
Name: Emily A Marshall
Birth: abt 1864
Death: Dec 1955 - Bournemouth, Dorset, England


Emily Alice Marshall in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Emily Alice Marshall
Probate Date: 1 Mar 1956
Registry: London, England
Death Date: 22 Oct 1955
Death Place: Bournemouth, England

Of 65 Boundary Road, Ensbury Park, Bournemouth.....At the Chase Nursing Home, Redhill Heights, Bournemouth.

To Innes Halsey Nicholson...retired civil servant

Effects: £208 8s 2d


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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915?
Name: Innes Halsey Nicholson
Birth: Jul 1881 - South Stoneham, Hampshire

Robert died before Emily...so that's why he couldn't marry Lily.