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11 May 2016 13:06 |
That is interesting that Aunty Ev came to Adelaide. I can imagine work would have then taken them to Sydney, can still picture the house in Balmain Rd. I have met Stan who was living in Dubbo but that is some time ago and he would be in his 90's if still living. I didn't meet Ron but heard about him. So it is all fitting.
What i find interesting are the enlistment places for Stan and Ron. Usually it is close to where they live but they are both very remote locations. Getting late now but will look up their service records. Its always surprising just how many family members got caught up in the wars, it really was a total community effort and you get the sense it was a whole lot less about the individual like we are now. Imagine what we could achieve if we all got behind something these days!
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11 May 2016 12:30 |
Australia, World War II Military Service Records, 1939-1945? Name: Stanley Vincent Wells Birth Date: 26th July 1919 Birth Place: Sheffield England Enlistment Place: Bagot Nt Service Number: NX160374 Next of Kin: Eveline Wells Series Description: B883: Army, 2nd Al F
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11 May 2016 12:26 |
Australia, World War II Military Service Records, 1939-1945? Name: Ronald Hugh Wells Birth Date: 10th May 1917 Birth Place: Sheffield England Enlistment Place: Torres Straights Queensland Service Number: NX173939 Next of Kin: Eveline Wells Series Description: B883: Army, 2nd Al F
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11 May 2016 09:53 |
Births Jun 1917 (>99%) Wells Ronald H Spooner Ecclesall B. 9c 693
Births Sep 1919 (>99%) Wells Stanley V Spooner Sheffield 9c 1140
Another possible child born to the Wells/Spooner marriage........
Births Dec 1925 (>99%) Wells Doreen E Spooner Sheffield 9c 946
Deaths Dec 1926 (>99%) Wells Doreen E 0 Sheffield 9c 532
On the 1911 census for George Henry and wife Mary, it states that they had 8 children born, 6 living, 2 had died.
This is one of the children who died........
Births Dec 1898 (>99%) Spooner George Henry Ecclesall B 9c 368
George Henry Spooner in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: George Henry Spooner Gender: Male Baptism Date: 4 Oct 1899 Baptism Place: Crookes, York, England Father: George Henry Spooner Mother: Mary
.Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%) Spooner George Henry 1 Ecclesall B. 9c 221
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AustinQ
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11 May 2016 07:58 |
And I think this is Eveline leaving UK 1928- possible marriage to Joseph Wells 1917 Yorkshire:
Mrs Eveline Wells 32 Housewife Ronald Hugh Wells 10 School Stanley Vincent Wells 8 School Last UK residence: 101 Paget St. Sheffield
Departure 28th Feb 1928 Departure port LONDON Destination port ADELAIDE Destination ADELAIDE State South Australia Destination country AUSTRALIA Ship name BELTANA Ship official number 131853 Ship master's first name C H Ship master's last name ALLIN Ship master's title CAPTAIN Shipping line P & O AUSTRALIA VIA THE CAPE SERVICE City LONDON Ship destination port AUSTRALIA Ship destination country AUSTRALIA Ship square feet 21064 Ship registered tonnage 7974 Number of passengers 671
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AustinQ
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11 May 2016 06:43 |
This is Maggie leaving the UK in 1922:
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
name(s) MISS MAGGIE SPOONER Gender Female Age 19 Birth year 1903 Occupation DOMESTIC Departure 19th October 1922 Departure port LONDON Destination port ADELAIDE Destination ADELAIDE State South Australia Destination country AUSTRALIA Ship name BELTANA Ship official number 131853 Ship master's first name J B Ship master's last name CORNEWALL-JONES Ship master's title CAPTAIN Shipping line P. & O. BRANCH SERVICE City LONDON Ship destination port AUSTRALIA
Last Uk Address: 92 Sicey Ave, Shire Green, Sheffield --------------------------------------------------
And her marriage:
South Australia Marriages 1842-1937 Transcription First name(s) Maggie Last name Spooner Marital status Single/Spinster Age 21 Birth year 1903 Marriage year 1924 Marriage date 27 Sep 1924 Place St Pauls Church Adelaide District Adelaide State South Australia Country Australia Father's first name(s) George Henry Father's last name Spooner Spouse's first name(s) Walter Allan Spouse's last name Robinson Spouse's marital status Single/Spinster Spouse's age 22 Spouse's birth year 1902 Spouse's father's first name(s) William Henry Spouse's father's last name Robinson Registration number 300/940 Notes Additional information is on the certificate but not recorded in this index
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Chris Ho :)
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11 May 2016 05:12 |
Spooner, John Peter (Student, dob 27 Aug 1910). Parent or guardian name(s): Mary (~), of 3 Bolehill Rd. Admitted to Bolehill Junior & Infants Council School, Bole Hill Rd, Walkley, Sheffield, as of 23 Aug 1915, until 09 Jan 1918, reason for leaving: Removed. Previously attended None.
Spooner, Maggie (Student, dob 03 Jun 1903). Parent or guardian name(s): Geo. Henry (~), of 3 Bolehill Rd. Admitted to Bolehill Junior & Infants Council School, Bole Hill Rd, Walkley, Sheffield, as of 14 Nov 1910, until 24 Jul 1913, reason for leaving: Senior. Previously attended Wincobank.
Spooner, Maggie (Student, dob 03 Jun 1903). Parent or guardian name(s): George Henry (~), of 9ct 3 Bole Hill Rd. Admitted to Bolehill Junior & Infants Council School, Bole Hill Rd, Walkley, Sheffield, as of 18 Nov 1907, until 31 Jan 1908, reason for leaving: Under age. Previously attended None.
Spooner, Violet (Student, dob 18 Jul 1909). Parent or guardian name(s): Mary (~), of 9ct 3 Bolehill Rd. Admitted to Bolehill Junior & Infants Council School, Bole Hill Rd, Walkley, Sheffield, as of 25 Aug 1914, until 06 Feb 1918, reason for leaving: Removed. Previously attended None.
Spooner, Evelyn (Student, dob 31 may 1895). Parent or guardian name(s): George Hy. Spooner (~), of 3 Bole Hill Rd. Admitted to Bole Hill School, Bole Hill Rd, Walkley, Sheffield, as of 06 Jun 1904, until 25 Jul 1907, reason for leaving: Trans to Burgoyne Rd. Previously attended Bole Hill Jun.
http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/
(from above link, always worth a look, Sheffield!)
Chris :)
Marriage 1931 329/309 SPOONER John Peter BENNIER Gladys Wilhelmina Adelaide
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html
http://www.aca.sa.gov.au/Memorial-Details/cem/Enfield%20Memorial%20Park/mapid/16086
Gladys Wilhelmena Spooner Died on 9/06/1970 at 59 Years of age. Previously lived in TEA TREE GULLY .
SPOONER, John Peter Found in 'Newspaper Death Notices' Database Source: Advertiser Surname: SPOONER Given Name: John Peter Publication Date: 1975
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Craig
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11 May 2016 03:23 |
And i must say, leading on from early remarks, I think i get this site now! It may have some mechanical issues but it is the people here that make it. Thankyou.
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Craig
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11 May 2016 02:44 |
Oh dear - this is getting really strange now! It's funny how you hear stories growing up and things turn out not quite how you recall them, but usually truth is in there and facts like newspapers help to pull it all into line. The bit i am having trouble with is if this is the right John Spooner, my great grandmother was living in Magill in 1937, not far from me and yet i never heard anything about her. I was born in 1963 and of course she would have been dead by then, but given all the stories i heard about other relatives, this all seemed odd. And also the frequency we would meet up with Maggie and Vi. I will send out a blanket email to extended family members and see what they can tell me.
Also only recently I was at dinner at some other parents place and was looking though a family history book they had and saw John Peter Spooner born in Eccleshall. I seem to recall he has family still in the 'riverland' of SA. That might be a good avenue of enquiry too.
But thanks so much for the detail. I'm thinking i should try and condense all that information into something more concise.
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PricklyHolly
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10 May 2016 17:12 |
Mary Crawshaw was a servant with siblings Fanny and Henry Spooner on the 1891 census.......
Mary Crawshaw in the 1891 England Census Name: Mary Crawshaw Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Nether Hallam Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Household Members:
Fanny Spooner 59 Henry Spooner 64 (Brother) Mary Crawshaw 18
Res: 61 Bole Hill Road.
Henry died in 1892.......
Henry Spooner in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 Name: Henry Spooner Probate Date: 23 Sep 1892 Registry: Wakefield Death Date: 27 Jun 1892 Death Place: Sheffield, England
Of Bole Hall Walkley Sheffield......Yeoman
To George Spooner cowkeeper
Effects: £490 12s 6d
Mary Crawshaw in the 1881 England Census Name: Mary Crawshaw Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relationship to Head: Daughter Father: Georg Crawshaw Mother: Elizabeth Crawshaw Gender: Female Where born: Upper Hallam, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Bradfield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Roscoe Wood Registration district: Wortley
Household Members:
Georg Crawshaw 43 (Wine Drawer) Elizabeth Crawshaw 42 Clara Crawshaw 12 Tom Crawshaw 10 Mary Crawshaw 8 Selina Crawshaw 5 Lucy Crawshaw 3 Charles Crawshaw
Births Mar 1873 (>99%) Crawshaw Mary Wortley 9c 231
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10 May 2016 16:50 |
Prickly's 16:29
Reads JOHN PETER SPOONER(27), on complaint, charged with false pretences on the Unemployment Relief Council, at Adelaide; fined £10 and costs £2, in default 6 weeks. Evidence obtained by F C Nottage. Tried at Magill 18/5/37. (C4418.)
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AustinQ
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10 May 2016 16:39 |
There's a few articles on Trove re John Peter Spooner- got himself into a bit of bother:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y
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LondonBelle
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10 May 2016 16:35 |
1841 Census for same Family taken in Walkley?
Name: John Spooner Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Sheffield Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (South Division) County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration district: Nether Hallam Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1334 Book: 3 Folio: 16 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Spomer 45 John Spooner 25 Elizabeth Spooner 20 Henry Spooner 15 George Spooner 11 Fanny Spooner 8
Next door is John Hall b 1806 occ Cutler
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10 May 2016 16:29 |
I don't have access to be able to view this....
South Australia, Australia, Police Gazettes, 1927-1947? Wills, Probates, Land, Tax & Criminal Name: John Peter Spooner Birth: abt 1910 Age: 27 Year: 1937 Place: South Australia, Australia
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10 May 2016 16:25 |
Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950? Name John Peter Spooner Spouse: Gladys Wilhelmina Bennier Marriage Place: South Australia Registration Place: South Australia Registration Year: 1928-1932 Page number: 309 Volume Number: 329
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LondonBelle
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10 May 2016 16:20 |
Possible 1851 census for George Snr?
Name: George Spooner Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relation: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Crookes, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Nether Hallam Ecclesiastical parish: Crookes County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Bole Hill
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration district: Nether Hallam ED, institution, or vessel: 09 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Piece: 2336 Folio: 197 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age John Spooner 35 Head Farmer Mary Spooner 27 Sister CowKeeper Henry Spooner 24 Brother Farm Servant George Spooner 21 Brother Farm Servant Fanny Spooner 19 Sister House maid John Hall 46 Servant occ Cutler
All unmarried.
There was a Fanny Spooner aged 69 Single living next door to George Hy in the 1901 Census aged
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10 May 2016 16:13 |
Births Sep 1910 (>99%) SPOONER John [PF] Ecclesall B. 9c 433 (No "F" on the image)
Australia, World War II Military Service Records, 1939-1945? John Peter Spooner Birth Date: 27th Aug 1910 Birth Place Sheffield England Year Range 1939--1948 Enlistment Place Kensington Sa Service Numbers S111175 Next Of Kin Gladys Spooner Series Discription B884: Army Citizen Military Forces
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PricklyHolly
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10 May 2016 15:53 |
It looks like Mary remarried in 1918........
Marriages Jun 1918 (>99%) Sharp Frederick Spooner Sheffield 9c 892 Spooner Mary Sharp Sheffield 9c 892
Here she is travelling to Adelaide, Australia with daughter Violet and son John Peter ....
John Peter Spooner in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Name: John Peter Spooner Gender: Male Age: 13 Birth Date: abt 1911 Departure Date: 19 Jun 1924 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Adelaide, Australia Ship Name: Bendigo Shipping line: Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co Official Number: 145603 Master: Captain G H S Furlong
Mrs Mary Sharp 50 Housewife...........92 Sicey Avenue, Sheffield Violet Spooner 14 John Peter Spooner 13
Ah, Austin beat me to it! :-)
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AustinQ
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10 May 2016 15:50 |
Perhaps this is her marriage:
Name: Mary Spooner Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918 Registration district: Sheffield Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Spouse: Frederick Sharp Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 892
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AustinQ
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10 May 2016 15:49 |
This is the passenger list (Did Mary (George's wife) marry again? :
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Mrs Mary Sharpe 50 Housewife Violet Spooner 14 John Peter Spooner 13 Last UK Address 92 Sicey Avenue, Sheffield
Departure Date: 19 Jun 1924 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Adelaide, Australia Ship Name: Bendigo Shipping line: Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co Official Number: 145603 Master: Captain G H S Furlong
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