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Births Sep 1910 (>99%)
SPOONER John [PF] Ecclesall B. 9c 433 (No "F" on the image)


Australia, World War II Military Service Records, 1939-1945?
John Peter Spooner
Birth Date: 27th Aug 1910
Birth Place Sheffield England
Year Range 1939--1948
Enlistment Place Kensington Sa
Service Numbers S111175
Next Of Kin Gladys Spooner
Series Discription B884: Army Citizen Military Forces

Possible 1851 census for George Snr?

Name: George Spooner
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Crookes, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Nether Hallam
Ecclesiastical parish: Crookes
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: Bole Hill

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Nether Hallam
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 2336
Folio: 197
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Spooner 35 Head Farmer
Mary Spooner 27 Sister CowKeeper
Henry Spooner 24 Brother Farm Servant
George Spooner 21 Brother Farm Servant
Fanny Spooner 19 Sister House maid
John Hall 46 Servant occ Cutler

All unmarried.

There was a Fanny Spooner aged 69 Single living next door to George Hy in the 1901 Census aged

Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950?
Name John Peter Spooner
Spouse: Gladys Wilhelmina Bennier
Marriage Place: South Australia
Registration Place: South Australia
Registration Year: 1928-1932
Page number: 309
Volume Number: 329

I don't have access to be able to view this....


South Australia, Australia, Police Gazettes, 1927-1947?
Wills, Probates, Land, Tax & Criminal
Name: John Peter Spooner
Birth: abt 1910
Age: 27
Year: 1937
Place: South Australia, Australia

1841 Census for same Family taken in Walkley?

Name: John Spooner
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sheffield
Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (South Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Nether Hallam
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1334
Book: 3
Folio: 16
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Spomer 45
John Spooner 25
Elizabeth Spooner 20
Henry Spooner 15
George Spooner 11
Fanny Spooner 8

Next door is John Hall b 1806 occ Cutler

There's a few articles on Trove re John Peter Spooner- got himself into a bit of bother:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

Prickly's 16:29

Reads
JOHN PETER SPOONER(27), on complaint, charged with false pretences on the Unemployment Relief Council, at Adelaide; fined £10 and costs £2, in default 6 weeks. Evidence obtained by F C Nottage. Tried at Magill 18/5/37. (C4418.)

Mary Crawshaw was a servant with siblings Fanny and Henry Spooner on the 1891 census.......

Mary Crawshaw in the 1891 England Census
Name: Mary Crawshaw
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Nether Hallam
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Household Members:

Fanny Spooner 59
Henry Spooner 64 (Brother)
Mary Crawshaw 18

Res: 61 Bole Hill Road.

Henry died in 1892.......

Henry Spooner in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Henry Spooner
Probate Date: 23 Sep 1892
Registry: Wakefield
Death Date: 27 Jun 1892
Death Place: Sheffield, England

Of Bole Hall Walkley Sheffield......Yeoman

To George Spooner cowkeeper

Effects: £490 12s 6d



Mary Crawshaw in the 1881 England Census
Name: Mary Crawshaw
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relationship to Head:
Daughter
Father: Georg Crawshaw
Mother: Elizabeth Crawshaw
Gender: Female
Where born: Upper Hallam, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Bradfield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: Roscoe Wood
Registration district: Wortley

Household Members:

Georg Crawshaw 43 (Wine Drawer)
Elizabeth Crawshaw 42
Clara Crawshaw 12
Tom Crawshaw 10
Mary Crawshaw 8
Selina Crawshaw 5
Lucy Crawshaw 3
Charles Crawshaw



Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
Crawshaw Mary Wortley 9c 231

Oh dear - this is getting really strange now! It's funny how you hear stories growing up and things turn out not quite how you recall them, but usually truth is in there and facts like newspapers help to pull it all into line. The bit i am having trouble with is if this is the right John Spooner, my great grandmother was living in Magill in 1937, not far from me and yet i never heard anything about her. I was born in 1963 and of course she would have been dead by then, but given all the stories i heard about other relatives, this all seemed odd. And also the frequency we would meet up with Maggie and Vi. I will send out a blanket email to extended family members and see what they can tell me.

Also only recently I was at dinner at some other parents place and was looking though a family history book they had and saw John Peter Spooner born in Eccleshall. I seem to recall he has family still in the 'riverland' of SA. That might be a good avenue of enquiry too.

But thanks so much for the detail. I'm thinking i should try and condense all that information into something more concise.

And i must say, leading on from early remarks, I think i get this site now! It may have some mechanical issues but it is the people here that make it. Thankyou.

Spooner, John Peter (Student, dob 27 Aug 1910).
Parent or guardian name(s): Mary (~), of 3 Bolehill Rd.
Admitted to Bolehill Junior & Infants Council School, Bole Hill Rd, Walkley, Sheffield, as of 23 Aug 1915,
until 09 Jan 1918, reason for leaving: Removed. Previously attended None.


Spooner, Maggie (Student, dob 03 Jun 1903).
Parent or guardian name(s): Geo. Henry (~), of 3 Bolehill Rd.
Admitted to Bolehill Junior & Infants Council School, Bole Hill Rd, Walkley, Sheffield, as of 14 Nov 1910,
until 24 Jul 1913, reason for leaving: Senior. Previously attended Wincobank.


Spooner, Maggie (Student, dob 03 Jun 1903).
Parent or guardian name(s): George Henry (~), of 9ct 3 Bole Hill Rd.
Admitted to Bolehill Junior & Infants Council School, Bole Hill Rd, Walkley, Sheffield, as of 18 Nov 1907,
until 31 Jan 1908, reason for leaving: Under age. Previously attended None.


Spooner, Violet (Student, dob 18 Jul 1909).
Parent or guardian name(s): Mary (~), of 9ct 3 Bolehill Rd.
Admitted to Bolehill Junior & Infants Council School, Bole Hill Rd, Walkley, Sheffield, as of 25 Aug 1914,
until 06 Feb 1918, reason for leaving: Removed. Previously attended None.


Spooner, Evelyn (Student, dob 31 may 1895).
Parent or guardian name(s): George Hy. Spooner (~), of 3 Bole Hill Rd.
Admitted to Bole Hill School, Bole Hill Rd, Walkley, Sheffield, as of 06 Jun 1904,
until 25 Jul 1907, reason for leaving: Trans to Burgoyne Rd. Previously attended Bole Hill Jun.


http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/

(from above link, always worth a look, Sheffield!)

Chris :)

Marriage
1931 329/309 SPOONER John Peter BENNIER Gladys Wilhelmina Adelaide

https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html


http://www.aca.sa.gov.au/Memorial-Details/cem/Enfield%20Memorial%20Park/mapid/16086

Gladys Wilhelmena Spooner
Died on 9/06/1970 at 59 Years of age.
Previously lived in TEA TREE GULLY .


SPOONER, John Peter
Found in 'Newspaper Death Notices' Database
Source: Advertiser
Surname: SPOONER
Given Name: John Peter
Publication Date: 1975

This is Maggie leaving the UK in 1922:

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription

name(s) MISS MAGGIE SPOONER
Gender Female
Age 19
Birth year 1903
Occupation DOMESTIC
Departure 19th October 1922
Departure port LONDON
Destination port ADELAIDE
Destination ADELAIDE
State South Australia
Destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship name BELTANA
Ship official number 131853
Ship master's first name J B
Ship master's last name CORNEWALL-JONES
Ship master's title CAPTAIN
Shipping line P. & O. BRANCH SERVICE
City LONDON
Ship destination port AUSTRALIA

Last Uk Address: 92 Sicey Ave, Shire Green, Sheffield
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And her marriage:

South Australia Marriages 1842-1937 Transcription
First name(s) Maggie
Last name Spooner
Marital status Single/Spinster
Age 21
Birth year 1903
Marriage year 1924
Marriage date 27 Sep 1924
Place St Pauls Church Adelaide
District Adelaide
State South Australia
Country Australia
Father's first name(s) George Henry
Father's last name Spooner
Spouse's first name(s) Walter Allan
Spouse's last name Robinson
Spouse's marital status Single/Spinster
Spouse's age 22
Spouse's birth year 1902
Spouse's father's first name(s) William Henry
Spouse's father's last name Robinson
Registration number 300/940
Notes Additional information is on the certificate but not recorded in this index

And I think this is Eveline leaving UK 1928- possible marriage to Joseph Wells 1917 Yorkshire:


Mrs Eveline Wells 32 Housewife
Ronald Hugh Wells 10 School
Stanley Vincent Wells 8 School
Last UK residence: 101 Paget St. Sheffield

Departure 28th Feb 1928
Departure port LONDON
Destination port ADELAIDE
Destination ADELAIDE
State South Australia
Destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship name BELTANA
Ship official number 131853
Ship master's first name C H
Ship master's last name ALLIN
Ship master's title CAPTAIN
Shipping line P & O AUSTRALIA VIA THE CAPE SERVICE
City LONDON
Ship destination port AUSTRALIA
Ship destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship square feet 21064
Ship registered tonnage 7974
Number of passengers 671

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
Wells Ronald H Spooner Ecclesall B. 9c 693


Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Wells Stanley V Spooner Sheffield 9c 1140

Another possible child born to the Wells/Spooner marriage........

Births Dec 1925 (>99%)
Wells Doreen E Spooner Sheffield 9c 946


Deaths Dec 1926 (>99%)
Wells Doreen E 0 Sheffield 9c 532


On the 1911 census for George Henry and wife Mary, it states that they had 8 children born, 6 living, 2 had died.

This is one of the children who died........


Births Dec 1898 (>99%)
Spooner George Henry Ecclesall B 9c 368

George Henry Spooner in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: George Henry Spooner
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 4 Oct 1899
Baptism Place: Crookes, York, England
Father: George Henry Spooner
Mother: Mary

.Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%)
Spooner George Henry 1 Ecclesall B. 9c 221

Australia, World War II Military Service Records, 1939-1945?
Name: Ronald Hugh Wells
Birth Date: 10th May 1917
Birth Place: Sheffield England
Enlistment Place: Torres Straights Queensland
Service Number: NX173939
Next of Kin: Eveline Wells
Series Description: B883: Army, 2nd Al F

Australia, World War II Military Service Records, 1939-1945?
Name: Stanley Vincent Wells
Birth Date: 26th July 1919
Birth Place: Sheffield England
Enlistment Place: Bagot Nt
Service Number: NX160374
Next of Kin: Eveline Wells
Series Description: B883: Army, 2nd Al F

That is interesting that Aunty Ev came to Adelaide. I can imagine work would have then taken them to Sydney, can still picture the house in Balmain Rd. I have met Stan who was living in Dubbo but that is some time ago and he would be in his 90's if still living. I didn't meet Ron but heard about him. So it is all fitting.

What i find interesting are the enlistment places for Stan and Ron. Usually it is close to where they live but they are both very remote locations. Getting late now but will look up their service records. Its always surprising just how many family members got caught up in the wars, it really was a total community effort and you get the sense it was a whole lot less about the individual like we are now. Imagine what we could achieve if we all got behind something these days!