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I just added a little more to my post above

Thanks AustinQ, in the departure year of 1909 my Mary Letitia would've been born, she'd of been about 15 months old. Maybe she left Mary behind? Perhaps I do need to look further a field.

I don't have time to look know- but the shipping record I put up is from FMP, but on Ancestry there are more records- and one where M L Scott is described as a widow.

If no-one has looked into it, I'll check it further when I get back.

Elizabeth's husband emigrated earlier.

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First name(s) -
Last name EVATT
Title SURGEON GENL
Gender Male
Age 45
Birth year 1860
Marital status M
Departure year 1905
Departure day 3
Departure month 7
Departure port LIVERPOOL
Destination port QUEBEC
Destination QUEBEC
Country CANADA
Destination country CANADA
Ship name LAKE CHAMPLAIN
Ship master's first name WILLIAM
Ship master's last name STEWART
City LIVERPOOL
Ship destination port MONTREAL
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship square feet 16148
Ship registered tonnage 7392
Number of passengers 528
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States

Evelyn John R Evatt
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep, 1898
Registration district: Dublin South, Ireland
Volume: 2
Page Number: 513
FHL Film Number: 101259

Records on Page:
Name
Mary Jane Leech
Frederick William Dunlop
Kathleen Mary Rice
Mary J Deane-Freeman
Elizabeth Strettell Scott
Evelyn John R Evatt
Nicholson Ormsby Scott
Fanny Crumplin
James William Bardon

After a little more digging on that passenger list, I'm leaning towards that M L Scott being Elizabeth Strettell Evatt's mother- and thinking the age should be 78 (not 28). Elizabeth, her husband Evelyn, and her mother appear together on a later passenger list.

Furthermore I see no other children born to Mary Letitia and her husband Strettell Jackson Scott.

So back to the drawing board!

I have now sent off for Marys death Certificate on the slim chance that if migh reveal her place of birth.

You can search on Ancestry for Fran* Scot with keywords "Coal Miner". There are only 4 of them in 1911 and I don't think any of them are yours.

I'll check the 1881 census and let you know if any of them are possible. The only English census that can be searched by occupation are the 1881 and 1911. All the others you need to look at each image. All the Scottish census transcribed on Ancestry can be searched by occupation.

Anything's worth a try. Can you let us know please if the death certificate reveals anymore detail?

Worth remembering that the year of birth was different on her death certificate to that that she herself had given in 1939.

I still can't help feeling that she wasn't born Scott but that was maybe a stepfather's surname.

That Frank Scott has been married 4 years and has had 2 children and they are with him on the census.

Ok thanks rootgatherer

On the basis that Frank might be her step father I have looked for Mary Letitia's born in 1908 qu2 (Warburton, Harries and Totty) and then looked for a marriage between those Scott and those surnames.

I haven't had any success but will check other the other quarters and 1909 as her DOB was different in 1939.

Although her age is 39 on her marriage cert (3.6.48) she would've been 40 just 2 weeks later. And this is signed and witnessed so I would think this to be correct. Meaning born in 1908.

You'll be able to order her death certificate online from the GRO.

I would count to much on ages being accurate on marriage certificates, people tell porkies for all sorts of reasons. I have an example in my tree where a couple had their marriage re-registered years later because the bride had knocked two years off her age.

Looking at births for Mary Letitia

June Q 1908
Harries in Llanlly
Tolley in Conway
Warburton in Prestwich

Sep Q 1908
Carter in South Shields
Higgins in Pontypridd
Max in Bristol parents William and Mary
Nesbitt in West Derby


Jun Q 1909

no Mary Letitia's 1 Mary Lettice Newsham in Preston

Sep Q 1909
Davies in Llandovery
Hulse in Rotherham parents Daniel and Ann
Phillips in Pontardawe
Spencer in Coventry parents Edward and Mary

those with Parents I found on Ancestry and their spouses

perhaps some one with better skills than me may be able
to trace these Mary's further forward

I hav'nt checked deaths

Mavis

Thank you, will try and see if there are marriages between these surnames and Scott.

Nottingham Evening Post, Wednesday September 26, 1928

The ad is for Situations Wanted -

Wanted - Private nursing, day or night, - Apply Nurse, 127 North Sherwood Street

There are also deaths listed there- I think it was a general nursing home.

Stirling Observer - Tuesday 06 March 1945

A minor warrant was granted to Moraig Nursing Home, Stirling (Ltd), to make alterations to the coachman's house at 9 Gladstone Place.

Feeling a bit deflated today.
I have received Mary Letitia Scott's deaths and it didn't reveal her place of birth.

I wouldn't pay a genealogist! Have you really exhausted all avenues?

I haven't read through all the thread again (and my memory isn't great), but -

Have you contacted central libraries re addresses on electoral registers. Some libraries will help- when did Mary Letitia first appear at the Sherwood address- were there others listed with her at the same address in different years.

Is the informant who you expected it to be? Is it a family member that can be traced?

Have you made contact with George's descendants to see if they have any information?

I'm hopeful that others will come up with a few suggestions of help- that you can do yourself without paying fees.

When I searched in FMP (dont have full access) under Mary Letitia Scott, electoral roll to 1932, there appears to be some records for Cornwall.

At what age would she start to appear on the electoral roll if she was born in 1908?