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There's a photograph of this lovely building on the internet:

http://www.expertagent.co.uk/in4glestates/%7BAB6717A5-E6CD-4CCA-8E26-BC0E5F1CD1C7%7D/%7B27B7FC20-A0F6-41FC-8DAC-1C6414D6E674%7D/external.pdf

Erin .......... I'm looking on Ancestry for that census return but I cannot see where it says 'Ladies Seminary'.
Please help.

Nicola ..I don't use Ancestry...I was curious as to what sort of school Isabel went to in TP (Them there Hervey's again !!) so searched the address and then Rachel Martineau's name and up came "Ladies Academy"


http://www.liverpool-schools.co.uk/Teachers_1853.xls

Thank you again. But what is 'TP' please??

Nicola. Get a grip !!!! Toxteth Park

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Liverpool Records and also the Library sadly do not have any records of the Seminary at No.36. But they were very helpful.
:-D

Nicola.. They are probably in some "Family Vault" given the pedigrees of those associated with the Seminary !!

Curiosity got the better of me again when I noticed a Jane Nobel Pilkington (should read Noble) lodger 61yrs on the 1851 Census..
Now who was she and what was she doing there....????
She was the daughter of John Pilkington and Jane Noble the very wealthy Lancashire Pilikngton's .Spent a good part of last nite reading about their history and the roots going back..Jane was obviously a gifted painter...but still don't know what she was doing "lodging" with Rachel..
1861 She is a visitor in the household of James and Jane Booth of Princes Gdns.Westminster

http://rivington.byethost14.com/doku.php?id=pilkington_painting_rivington_church&ckattempt=1

I cannot locate Rachel 1861 but find her visiting with Jane Pilkington Weybridge Surrey 1871...Rachel died 1878.Chertsey Surrey
.

It's always such fascinating stuff tracing others on the page, isn't it? I often get immersed in a line that is nothing to do with my family!

And I'm so glad to be able to give you something back in return for all your hard work for me - here is our gal in 1861:

Name:
Rachel Anne Markman
[Rachel Anne Martineau]

Age:
60

Estimated birth year:
1801

Relation:
Head

Gender:
Female

Where born:
Norwich, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish:
Weybridge

County/Island:
Surrey

Country:
England


Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:



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Registration district:
Chertsey

Sub-registration district:
Walton

ED, institution, or vessel:
9

Neighbors:
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Household schedule number:
70

Piece:
421

Folio:
139

Page Number:
16

Household Members:


Name

Age


Rachel Anne Markman 60
Mary Park 32
Lydia Gadd 21

:-D

Found this little quote on an internet search:

first one sister, and then another, settled in Liverpool; the eldest, Miss Rachel Martineau, in 1837 opening a school of rare educational value, in which her brother rendered active help.

So the Ladies Seminary obviously had a very good reputation.

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Near the Stage & Grounds, Weybridge Common, Weybridge, Chertsey, Surrey, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Rachel Jane Martinson Head Unmarried Female 60 1801 Proprietor Norwich, Norfolk, England
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Mary Park Servant Unmarried Female 32 1829 Domestic Servant Bacton, Norfolk, England
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Lydia Gadd Servant Unmarried Female 21 1840 Domestic Servant Upper Hale, Surrey, England


from find my past

(relates, for info.)

Chris :)

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Norwich
Church name Octagon Unitarian Chapel
Register type Other Register
Baptism date 25 Jun 1801
Person forename Rachel Anne
Person sex F
Father forename Thomas
Father surname MARTINEAU
Mother forename Elizabeth

http://www.freereg.org.uk/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martineau_family

(Thomas info. on above)

Nicola.....Louisa Ellen Hutchins (1851 Census) visiting Rachel was also very very interesting...How did all these ladies end up at the Seminary...what a seat of learning .....

https://ardnagashel.wordpress.com/the-hutchins/the-hutchins-family/

Nicola ...Just noticed (May 3) your having to look in the Scotland...who where and when...Have some spare credits.

So kind of you to help me out with credits for Scotland.

I am going to open up a new thread because it makes sense. I will head it up 'Them SCOTTISH Hervie's this time!'.