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S S in the 1901 England Census
Name: S S
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation to Head: Pauper Patient (Pauper)
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Boldre, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Fareham
Ecclesiastical parish: Fareham St Peter and St Paul
Town: Fareham
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Fareham
Sub-registration district: Fareham
ED, institution, or vessel: County Lunatic Asylum
S S 68 (Domestic Servant) Single......Lunatic
S S A in the 1911 England Census........(S S on the image)
Name:S S
Age in 1911: 78
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation to Head: Patient
Gender:Female
Birth Place: Boldre, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Fareham
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: Hants County Lunatic Asylum, Fareham
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Formerly Domestic Servant
Registration district: Fareham
S S A 78 ........Lunatic at 38 years
Edit: Lunatic at 38 yrs.......that would mean in 1873 which would fit in with her year of birth in 1833. Which is why no death or marriage can be found for her between 1871 and 1881?
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Deaths Dec 1917 (>99%)
Saunders Sarah 84 Fareham 2b 718
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OMG.....
If that is her.......I am sooo pleased I found her, but how very sad is that!
Anyone got any Gin???
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So sad. I wonder what was actually wrong with her - probably something easily controlled with medication nowadays.
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Very true ArgyllGran.
After all these years of searching, i feel both sad and elated that I may have finally found out what happened to her.
Thank you so much to everyone who took the time to post on here.
Very much appreciated.
I will check back on all the info tomorrow to be sure I am on the right track.
I will then order a copy of the death cert.
Thank you........Prickles. <3
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Please let us know the outcome!
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Her sister, Emma C was Caroline Emma:
Baptism:
First name(s) CAROLINE EMMA
Last name SAUNDERS
Birth year 1834
Baptism year 1834
Baptism day 20
Baptism month Apr
Son or daughter Daughter
First parent's first name(s) George
Second parent first name(s) Charlotte
Parish HORDLE
County Hampshire
Record set Hampshire baptisms
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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Harwood Cottage, Milford, Lymington, Hampshire, England
James Bagshel Male 60 1781 Hampshire, England
Susanna Bagshel Female 69 1772 Hampshire, England
Richd Bagshel Male 30 1811 Hampshire, England
Charles Bagshel Male 4 1837 Hampshire, England
Caroline Saunders Female 6 1835 Hampshire, England
Surname of family is mistranscribed and should be Bagshot
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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7, Ashley Hill, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Ellen Bartlett Head Widow Female 48 1853 Milk Business High Ham, Somerset, England
Rosalind Bartlett Daughter Single Female 20 1881 - High Ham, Somerset, England
Howard Bartlett Son Single Male 18 1883 Pupil Teacher Bristol, Gloucestershire,
Angelina White Mother Widow Female 71 1830 - Stoke St Gregory, Somerset,
Caroline Saunders Boarder Single Female 67 1834 Dress Maker BOLDRE Hampshire,
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Death:
First name(s) CAROLINE EMMA
Last name SAUNDERS
Gender Female
Birth year 1834
Age 67
Death quarter 2
Death year 1901
District LYMINGTON
County Hampshire
Volume 2B Page 389
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Hampshire Advertiser - Saturday 01 June 1901
BOLDRE
At Boldre on Tuesday, Mr Beranrd Harfield, the County Coroner, held an inquiry touching the death of Emma Caroline Saunders who died suddenly at Barborne Farm, Boldre on the 26th inst. George Saunders a farm bailiff of Boldre stated that the deceased was his step-sister. She lived at Bristol and had gone to Boldre on account of her ill health. When she arrived at the farm she was very much exhausted. On Sunday morning she was very ill and Dr Chinnery was sent for. The woman, however, died before his arrival. She had refused to have a doctor previous to Sunday morning. She had been sent witness, as at Bristol she had not had the necessities of life.- Dr Chinnery certified the cause of death to be syncope, due to cardiac failure, He stated that the deceased had not been well nourished and was suffering from curvature of the spine- A verdict in accordance with the medical testimony was returned by the jury.
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The half/ step brother:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Warborne Farm, Portmore, Boldre, Lymington, Hampshire, England
George W Saunders Head Married Male 55 1846 Farm Bailiff Milford, Hampshire,
Margaret Saunders Wife Married Female 56 1845 - South Stoneham, Hampshire,
Marion Saunders Daughter Single Female 16 1885 School Teacher Boldre, Hampshire,
Frances Saunders Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Boldre, Hampshire,
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Another very sad story.
So neither Sarah nor Emma married, and neither life ended well - assuming SS is the right Sarah.
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(seems to come up as below, that 1853)
Chris :)
Marriage
1853 TIBBEL George SAUNDERS Ellen St Thomas, Ryde
http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/index.php
(more relating, Tibbel on above)
Marriages Mar 1853 (>99%)
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SAUNDERS Ellin I Wight 2b 648
TIBBEL George I. Wight 2b 648
04 October 1876 - Hampshire Advertiser - Southampton, Hampshire
Death
On the 22nd ult., at Ryde, Isle of Wight, George Tibbel, aged 47.
Deaths Mar 1905 (>99%)
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Tibbel Ellen 76 I. Wight 2b 443
Death
1904 TIBBEL Ellen 76 years 1827 - 1828 Newport
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
(above has some childrens Baptisms Boldre, for George W Saunders and Margaret)
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Thank you Chris......I will check out that site.
Oh my goodness AustinQ, i am blown away by the info you found.
I thought i would leave it alone for tonight, and come back to it all tomorrow......but i just couldn't stay away.
I found this earlier........
Sarah Saunders in the UK, Lunacy Patients Admission Registers, 1846-1912
Name: Sarah Saunders
Gender: Female
Admission Date: 27 Apr 1871
Institution: Hants
Intitution Place: Hampshire, England
Death Date: 27 Dec 1917
Death Place: Hampshire, England
So the sister was Caroline Emma Saunders!
George William Saunders was indeed her step brother (half brother actually)......he married Margaret Puddle in 1871 Lymington, Hampshire.
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George W Saunders in the 1901 England Census
Name: George W Saunders
Age:55
Estimated birth year:abt 1846
Relation to Head:Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Margaret Saunders
Birth Place: Milford, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Boldre
Ecclesiastical parish: Boldre St Johns
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Household Members:
George W Saunders 55 (Farm Bailiff)
Margaret Saunders 56
Marion Saunders 16
Frances Saunders 13
Res:......Looks like Warborne Farm on the image.
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Sorry Austin
Yes you did...
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I couldn't find a baptism for Sarah........but now that you have posted the baptism of Caroline Emma, i now know that her mother's name was Charlotte!!
Fabulous!
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Sarah's baptism:
First name(s) SARAH
Last name SAUNDERS
Birth year 1832
Baptism year 1832
Baptism day 23
Baptism month Sep
Son or daughter Daughter
First parent's first name(s) George
Second parent first name(s) Charlotte
Parish HORDLE
County Hampshire
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Parents' marriage:
First name(s) GEORGE
Last name SAUNDERS
Marriage year 1831
Marriage day 1
Marriage month Aug
Place HORDLE
Bride's first name Charlotte
Bride's last name Cole
Parish Hordle
County Hampshire
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Possible burial for Charlotte?
First name(s) CHARLOTTE
Last name SAUNDERS
Age 25
Birth year 1809
Death year 1834
Death day 30
Death month Sep
Burial year 1834
Parish Milford
County Hampshire
Record set Hampshire Burials
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Just fabulous.......i can't even begin to tell you how thrilled i am.
George Saunders married his second wife Amelia Woodward in 1843, Lymington, Hampshire.
This might possibly be the death of his first wife..
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Deaths Dec 1839 (>99%)
Saunders Charlotte Milton 5 252
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I don't think the 1839 death is likely- isn't Milton in Kent?
I think, especially as no more children were born to George and Charlotte after 1834, that the 1834 death is more likely
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It's not quite 'snap' Prickles - your lady above died 5 years after the one which AustinQ posted and her death appears to have been in Kent??
Dea x
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