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:-S Phew!! Please could someone help with any info for Frederick Crook 1880) I can only see him on 1881 and 1891 then nothing :-S

Thanks for ali info Joonie & Ann and everyone x

lancsAnn

I think that is still some kind of guess ... although what was stated seems very authoritative I don't know where it came from!

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1318412

'He left England in 1888 to work on the anglo-chile nitrate railway tocopilla as a black ksmith....i dont know what happened to him after this...'

? how is this known, Cane?

but absolutely, the jumble of info and guesses in multiple threads helps no one


edit - the info comes from what Chris found published in Manchester in 1894, that Chris posted in

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1303278

'Crook. - Tidings are required of Josiah Crook, last heard of in South America Dec 4th 1890. He left Manchester in Nov 1888 and worked on the Anglo-Chilli Nitrate Railway Company, Tocopilla, Chilli, as a blacksmith.
>> The inquirer is his daughter, Mary Elizabeth Crook, 20, Canning -street, Woodward-street, Ancoats, Manchester.'

Cane - it might have been useful to know that he was in S America when the 1891 census was taken. I and possibly others spent some time looking for him possibly working away from home in England.

familysearch has numerous records of a Guillermo Crook, seaman, born in Chile 1925, entering the USA 1947-1957

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results/?count=75&query=%2Bsurname%3Acrook%20%2Bany_place%3Achile

someone here has enquired about a James Crook 1875 England, in Brazil

http://sabrits.co.uk/C.php

there is a Guillermo (Willy) Crook in Galapagos (part of Ecuador)

https://www.facebook.com/CrookW?ref=br_rs

He seems to be the Eduardo Guillermo Crook who has this youtube channel and is a musician

https://www.youtube.com/user/comocrook

this is a very poor google translation of his biographical web page, but no family info

https://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.willycrook.com.ar/biografia.html&prev=search


I would contact that person to enquire whether he has English roots, for example, although he was born in Argentina

still one would not think there are many South American families named Crook (I am related by marriage to a Chilean family, via an English/Scottish ancestor who had children there in the mid-1800s, and they are the only family by that name in South America)

you missed one (at least?) Chris

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1318412

far far too many threads about the same thing/person

totally unfair to people who try to help and end up repeating what has been done before

'cane' in future please add to one of your existing threads if you want to try again, so that others see what is known or has been tried already

... and don't state things as facts that are not (as in that last thread when you stated that a Josiah Crook in North Carolina was born in England when he wasn't)

looks good Maddie
Yes Ann..this is the piece which I have. His daughter Mary is looking for her father.i always hoped that she found him

There is an interesting bit in the Manchester Times (can't copy) but in essence it is a missing person enquiry for a Josiah Crook by his daughter Mary Elizabeth. Josiah was last heard of in S America on Dec 4 1890. Left Manchester Nov 1888 where is was working for a railway company as a blacksmith.

Co-incidence?

coulkd this be a possibilty
Josiah Crook

in the UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current

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Name: Josiah Crook
Death Date: 27 Nov 1900
Cemetery: Philips Park Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Miles Platting, Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England
Has Bio?: N
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1183790

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1231005

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1303278

(He left Manchester in Nov 1888 and worked on the Anglo-Chilli Nitrate Railway Company, Tocopilla, Chilli, as a blacksmith.)

(do above relate here?)

Chris :)

(things 'Crook' usually relating found on google search!)

yes that looks like him

Well he was around till c 1890 when Emily was baptised

could be him 1884

Manchester Rate Books 1706-1900 Transcription

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First name(s) Josiah
Last name Crook
Occupier's first name(s) Josiah
Occupier's last name Crook
Owner's first name(s) L
Owner's last name Rostron
Date Feb 1887
Year 1887
Address Gorton Lane
Location Gorton Township
Title of record Rate Assessments
Archive reference M 10/13/5/45
Record set Manchester Rate Books 1706-1900
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Rate Books
Collections from Great Britain

she was born c 1894 not 1884 !

Richard Crook
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary Crook
Birth Place: Tyldesley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Salford
Search Photos: Search for 'Salford' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Ordsall in Salford St Clement
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3737
Folio: 7
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Crook 44
Mary Crook 49
William H Crook 22
Richard A Crook 19
Edith E Crook 15
Emily Crook 10
Elizabeth A Crook 6 born Salford


So Emily was Josiah child then Marynwent 4, years to having Elizabeth by Richard

Would say she is the first child by Richard unless any of the deceased children were his too

Did you mean Elizabeth Alice born 1894 not 1884 as that is the only one born in Salford between 1880 & 1899

Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
Crook Elizabeth Alice Salford 8d 162

I know all the Manchester births are quire sketchy and hard to find :-(

she use's jus Alice on the 1911 census shirley

This may be William Henry


Births Dec 1877 (>99%)
Crook William Henry Chorlton 8c 497

Would show as born 1878 on census , may be an error on census

Where is Elizabeth Alice on the census ??
There is a Richard. 1883 and a Florence 1884. So where does she fit in

Well Emily is his

Baltism 2.7.1890 All Saints Ancoats, Lancashire, England
Emily Crook - [Child] of Josiah Crook & Mary
Abode: 80 Viaduct St.
Occupation: Blacksmith
Baptised by: George A. Fry
Register: Baptisms 1888 - 1891, Page 165, Entry 1315
Source: LDS Family Search
This is the only one that comes up