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Hannah
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16 Apr 2016 15:10 |
Have been looking for George James DAVIES / DAVIS on the 1871 Census for years. He was living at 28 Rockingham Street, Surrey, UK in 1879 when he married Fanny Clapp. His father George was deceased in 1879 on the marriage certificate. It was witnessed by Sarah and Harry woods. I don't know if these were related or friends. George was born about 1848 in London and was a stonemason and Coroner's office worker. He died in 1892 in London. Trying to find out more about his family and siblings. Any suggestions or leads much appreciated!
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AnnCardiff
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16 Apr 2016 15:17 |
welcome to the boards Hannah :-)
Name George James Davies Birth Date 1848 Age 31 Spouse's Name Fanny Clapp Spouse's Birth Date 1852 Spouse's Age 27 Event Date 13 Dec 1879 Event Place St. John'S, Walworth, Surrey, England Father's Name George Davies Spouse's Father's Name Samuel Clapp Marital Status Single Spouse's Marital Status Single
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16 Apr 2016 15:19 |
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Name George James Davis Gender Male Christening Date 11 Jun 1847 Christening Place SAINT GEORGE THE MARTYR WORKHOUSE,SOUTHWARK,LONDON,ENGLAND Birth Date 17 May 1847 Father's Name William Geo Davis Mother's Name Sarah Ann
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16 Apr 2016 15:22 |
Name George J Davies Event Type Death Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year 1919 Registration District Camberwell County London Event Place Camberwell, London, England Age (available after 1866) 72 Birth Year (Estimated) 1847 Volume 1D Page 810 Line Number 121
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KathleenBell
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16 Apr 2016 15:46 |
Is this his death? :-
First name(s) GEORGE Last name DAVIES Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1850 Age 42 Death quarter 2 Death year 1892 District ST. SAVIOUR SOUTHWARK County London Volume 1D Page 6 Country England
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KathleenBell
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16 Apr 2016 15:49 |
Is this him in the 1891 census? :-
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription William Street, Christchurch Southwark, St Saviour Southwark, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Davies Head Married Male 41 1850 Coroners Officer Westminster, Middlesex, England Fanny Davies Wife Married Female 39 1852 - Westminster, Middlesex, England George S Davies Son Single Male 20 1871 Organist Battersea, Middlesex, England Fanny M Davies Daughter Single Female 17 1874 Collar Turner Battersea, Middlesex, England James W Davies Son - Male 15 1876 Messenger Southwark, Surrey, England Albert J Davies Son - Male 10 1881 School Southwark, Surrey, England Ernest J Davies Son - Male 8 1883 School Southwark, Surrey, England Caroline Davies Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Southwark, Surrey, England Alice May Davies Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Southwark, Surrey, England
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16 Apr 2016 15:54 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 45, Chapel Street, St Marylebone, Marylebone, London, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Davies Head Married Male 49 1812 Decorator & Grainer Tooting, Surrey, England Transcription Elizabeth Davies Wife Married Female 46 1815 - Marylebone, Middlesex, England Transcription George J Davies Son - Male 13 1848 Scholar Marylebone, Middlesex, England
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KathleenBell
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16 Apr 2016 16:02 |
Think this might be his wife in the 1901 census as a widow:-
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 211, Great Dover Street, Newington, St Saviour Southwark, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Fanny Davies Head Widow Female 47 1854 Linen Collar Turner Westminster, Middlesex, England Egbert John Davies Son Single Male 18 1883 Warehouseman N K Borough, Surrey, England Alice Davies Daughter - Female 11 1890 - London, England William Schroll Boarder Single Male 35 1866 Printer Bristol, Gloucestershire, England William Folly Boarder Single Male 25 1876 Carman Tooting, Surrey, England
I think Ernest J. (from the 1891 census) and Egbert J. might be the same person.
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16 Apr 2016 16:05 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Wyndham Street, Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Alice Herbert Nurse Child - Female 2 1849 - - Transcription George Davies Head Married Male 40 1811 House Decorator Tooting, Surrey, England xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Transcription Elizabeth Davies Wife Married Female 35 1816 - Marylebone, Middlesex, England Transcription George Toombs - Unmarried Male 3 1848 - Marylebone, Middlesex, England Transcription Amelia Courtenay - Widow Female 26 1825 Dressmaker Christchurch Transcription Charlotte Courtenay Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Lambeth, Surrey, England Transcription Walter Courtenay Son - Male 5 1846 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
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AustinQ
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16 Apr 2016 16:24 |
Image reads George J-
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Clarendon Square, Pancras, London, England
George Davies Head - Male 58 1813 - Grainer, Tooting,Surrey, Elizabeth Davies Wife - Female 54 1817 - Marylebone, Middlesex, George T Davies Son - Male 23 1848 - Journalist- Marylebone, Middlesex,
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16 Apr 2016 16:40 |
What was his occupation on his marriage cert to Fanny? Only I see that on the baptisms of some of the older children (1877) he's listed as labourer- he's then listed as stonemason in 1878.
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KathleenBell
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16 Apr 2016 17:36 |
I think this is him in 1881 (listed as a Stonemason):-
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 26, Surrey Row, Christchurch Southwark, St Saviour Southwark, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Davis Head Married Male 29 1852 Stonemason Westminster, Middlesex, England Fanny Davis Wife Married Female 33 1848 - Westminster, Middlesex, England George Davis Son Single Male 9 1872 - Battersea, Surrey, England Fanny M Davis Daughter Single Female 7 1874 - Battersea, Surrey, England James M Davis Son Single Male 5 1876 - Battersea, Surrey, England Albert F Davis Son Single Male 0 1881 - Southwark, Surrey, England
He seems to have been in the Southwark area in most of the records I have found, including the 1892 death that Hannah mentioned.
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AnnCardiff
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16 Apr 2016 18:30 |
I'll send Hannah a mnessage
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Hannah
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16 Apr 2016 21:23 |
Wow! Thank you all so much for your help! I keep hitting dead ends so haven't know where to go from here. I'm new on here having taken over my late Father's research.
Here are the details of George's marriage certificate:
Dec 13th 1879 St John's Church, ?Walworth, Surrey George James Davies 31 Batchlor Stonemason 28 Rockingham St Father: George Davies dec Fanny Clapp 27 Spinster 1 ?Spicer Terrace ?Walworth Father: Samuel Clapp Drover Witnessed by Sarah and Harry Woods
My grandfather, George Samuel Davies, was born 7 years before the couple were married. Here are the details:
Oct 22nd 1870 16 Latchmere Road GEORGE SAMUEL Boy Father: GEORGE JAMES DAVIES Stonemason Mother: Elizabeth Francis Davies formerly Clapp signed by her
George James Davies died:
Jun 14th 1892 4 William Street George Davies Male 42 years a Stonemason Cause of death ?Phthisis 4 months Exhaustion Signed by widow present at death
I have them on the 1881 Census but can't seem to find them anywhere else as yet.
Thanks again!
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Hannah
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16 Apr 2016 21:31 |
I'm pretty certain that Kath has found the right family on the 1891 Census as the children match up with my grandfather's siblings.
So George James Davies was a Stonemason and a Coroners Officer
1891 George Davies Head Married Male 41 1850 Coroners Officer Westminster, Middlesex, England Fanny Davies Wife Married Female 39 1852 - Westminster, Middlesex, England George S Davies Son Single Male 20 1871 Organist Battersea, Middlesex, England Fanny M Davies Daughter Single Female 17 1874 Collar Turner Battersea, Middlesex, England James W Davies Son - Male 15 1876 Messenger Southwark, Surrey, England Albert J Davies Son - Male 10 1881 School Southwark, Surrey, England Ernest J Davies Son - Male 8 1883 School Southwark, Surrey, England Caroline Davies Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Southwark, Surrey, England Alice May Davies Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Southwark, Surrey, England
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Hannah
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16 Apr 2016 21:45 |
Here are the other details I have:
George James Davies c1848 - 1892 Fanny Clapp 1847 - 1937
Children: George Samuel 1870 - 1932 My Grandfather Fanny Mary 1873 - ? James William 1876 - 1929 Albert J 1881 - 1900 Ernest John 1882 - ? Caroline 1888 - ? Alice May 1890 - 1967
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16 Apr 2016 21:58 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Latchmere Road, Battersea, Wandsworth, London, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Fanny Davis Head - Female 19 1852 - Middlesex, England Transcription G S Davis Son - Male 0 1871 - Surrey, England
no 16 latchmere road
3 families living at no 16
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Hannah
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16 Apr 2016 22:30 |
Thank you safc. That's the right family but it looks like George James Davies was somewhere else on Census night. There are family rumours that he could have been in prison that have yet to be proven.
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16 Apr 2016 22:53 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Old Change, St Mary Magdalen, London City, London, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place David Renfield ? - Female 45 1826 - London, Middlesex, England Transcription Alexander Pohl - - Male 30 1841 - Germany Transcription Joseph Dakin - - Male 21 1850 - Staffordshire, England Transcription William Carver - - Male 20 1851 - Essex, England Transcription William S Bray - - Male 24 1847 - Surrey, England Transcription John Gregory - - Male 20 1851 - Yorkshire, England Transcription Arthur Wellman - - Male 21 1850 - Berkshire, England Transcription Henry G Chamberlain - - Male 29 1842 - London, Middlesex, England Transcription George J Davies - - Male 24 1847 - London, Middlesex, England xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Transcription John Laughlin - - Male 23 1848 - Suffolk, England Transcription Thomas Welling - - Male 18 1853 - Hertfordshire, England Transcription John Martin - - Male 20 1851 - Sussex, England Transcription Ada M A Pye - - Female 21 1850 - Middlesex, England Transcription Louisa M Gough - - Female 24 1847 - London, Middlesex, En
george is a com clerk
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Hannah
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16 Apr 2016 23:08 |
That looks possible for George James Davies. Is that a type of boarding house as there are a lot of men at the same address?
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