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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 16 Apr 2016 11:26

Morning all

I am hoping to track the parents of the following lady - Jane Ashcroft.

Marriage: 12 May 1913 St Mary, Ince, Lancashire, England
Richard Bushell - 23, Collier, Bachelor, 23 Cross Street
Jane Ashcroft - 19, Spinster, 7 Margaret Street
Groom's Father: Henry Bushell, deceased, Labourer
Bride's Father: William Henry Ashcroft, Collier
Witness: Nehemiah Edwards; Catherine Guest
Married by Banns by: J. A. Cooil


I have her details after her marriage (she and Richard had four sons) but am having difficulty in going backwards with her parents.

It is possible that her father married an Alice Eaude, but that brings its own problems due to mistranscriptions of that name - Eude - Cude - Youde etc.

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1889 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference ASHCROFT William Henry EAUDE Alice Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended.



This is could be Jane's baptism - she would have been 15 at the time.

Baptism: 15 Dec 1909 St Nathaniel, Platt Bridge, Hindley, Lancashire, England Jane Ashcroft - [Child] of William Henry Ashcroft & Alice Abode: Adelaiide {sic] St. Occupation: Collier Baptised by: C.R.Slee.


I have Jane on the 1901 and 1911 - father born in Orrell in Wigan.

Going backwards, I have her father on the 71 and 91 census with a possible baptism in 1866 but can only find a suitable birth in 1868! At this point I went to bed.


Tackling her mother's side (if the name is Eaude)......there is her birth in 1861 but cannot find her between then and her marriage in 1889.


At this stage........I would really appreciate some help and advice as I feel I am missing something obvious. If all else fails, I will need the Ashcroft/Eaue marriage cert I guess.


Thanks.

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Apr 2016 11:45

1911 ??
Name: Jane Ashcroft
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ince in Makerfield
Search Photos: Search for 'Ince in Makerfield' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 20 Adelaide St Platt Bridge Nr Wigan
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Ring Spinner
Registration district: Wigan
Registration District Number: 458
Sub-registration district: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Piece: 23040
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hy Ashcroft 48 --- Coal Miner Hewer
Alice Ashcroft 50
Margaret Ashcroft 20
Jane Ashcroft 17
Ellen Ashcroft 14
William Ashcroft 6

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Apr 2016 11:47

1901
Name: Jane Ashcroft
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: William Ashcroft
Mother: Alice Ashcroft
Birth Place: Platt Bridge, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ince in Makerfield
Search Photos: Search for 'Ince in Makerfield' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Ince
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3563
Folio: 60
Page Number: 52
Household schedule number: 266
Household Members:
Name Age
William Ashcroft 32
Alice Ashcroft 39
Margaret Ashcroft 10
Jane Ashcroft 7
Ellen Ashcroft 3
George Berry 1

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Apr 2016 11:51

William Henry Ashcroft

in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
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Name: William Henry Ashcroft
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Wigan
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 152
Records on Page:
Name
William Henry Ashcroft
Lydia Lavinia Byers
Alice Eaude
John Farley

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 16 Apr 2016 11:54

Thanks Maddie.....yes that's what I found too.....so I must be on the right track - at least a step in the right direction.

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Apr 2016 12:00

???
EAUDE Alice Wigan Wigan & Leigh EAUDE WIG/61/373
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1860

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 16 Apr 2016 12:12

Yep.....but she disappears from then until 1889....or at least, I can't find her...... :(

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Apr 2016 12:13

ASHCROFT Ellen Hindley Wigan & Leigh EUDE HNDL/127/448
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1897

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Apr 2016 12:19

SIBLINGS ??
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1863
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
EAUDE Jane Wigan Wigan & Leigh EAUDE WIG/69/168

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1866
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference

Baptism: 1 Apr 1866 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
John Eaude - [Child] of Margaret Eaude
Born: 2 Mar
Abode: 1 Rigby's Yard, Lime St.
Baptised by: George T. O. Bridgeman Rector
Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1868, Page 117, Entry 930
Source: LDS Film 1885683
EAUDE John Wigan Wigan & Leigh CAUDE WIG/79/248

Baptism: 23 Mar 1863 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Jane Eaude - [Child] of Elizabeth Eaude
Born: 13 Feb 1863
Abode: Millgate
Baptised by: C. H. Newbold Clerk in Orders
Register: Baptisms 1861 - 1865, Page 194, Entry 1549
Source: LDS Film 1885682

Baptism: 1 Apr 1866 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
John Eaude - [Child] of Margaret Eaude
Born: 2 Mar
Abode: 1 Rigby's Yard, Lime St.
Baptised by: George T. O. Bridgeman Rector
Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1868, Page 117, Entry 930
Source: LDS Film 1885683

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 16 Apr 2016 12:20

I did wonder about those - looks like mum wasn't interested in marriage... :-D

Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Apr 2016 12:22

Just looking at this baptism......


Wigan, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1911



Name:Alice Hude
Birth Date:22 Dec 1860
Baptism Date:30 Dec 1860
Baptism Place:Wigan, All Saints, Lancashire, England
Mother:Elizabeth Hude
Parish as it Appears:Wigan

Correct dates for birth for Alice Eaude.....

Andy

malyon

malyon Report 16 Apr 2016 12:28

going by the census age it looks like william henry ashcroft was born in 1863

William Ascroft
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
birth registration: 1863 Wigan, Lancashire, England


William H Ascroft
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name William H Ascroft
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1866
Registration District Wigan
County Lancashire
Event Place Wigan, Lancashire, England
Volume 8C
Page 35

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Apr 2016 12:34

??
Baptism: 10 Jun 1866 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Henry Ashcroft - [Child] of Henry Ashcroft & Sarah
Born: 14 Apr
Abode: 41 Stanley St.
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: George T. O. Bridgeman Rector
Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1868, Page 140, Entry 1120
Source: LDS Film 1885683

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Apr 2016 12:37

1871

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Standish Road, Orrell, Wigan, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Ashcroft Head - Male 48 1823 - Lancashire, England
Transcription
Mary Ellen Ashcroft Daughter - Female 24 1847 - Lancashire, England
Transcription
Margaret Ashcroft Daughter - Female 17 1854 - Lancashire, England
Transcription
Esther Ashcroft Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Lancashire, England
Transcription
Sarah Ashcroft Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Lancashire, England
Transcription
George Ashcroft Son - Male 9 1862 - Lancashire, England
Transcription
William H Ashcroft Grandson - Male 2 1869 - Lancashire, England
Transcription
Margaret Ashcroft Granddaughter - Female 1 1870 - Lancashire, England
Transcription
Census details
First name(s) William H
Last name Ashcroft
Relationship Grandson
Marital status -
Gender Male
Age 2
Birth year 1869
Occupation -
Birth town -
Birth county Lancashire
Birth county as transcribed LANCASHIRE
Birth place England
House name -
Street Standish Road
Parish Orrell
Town -
City -
County Lancashire
Country England
Registration district Wigan
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 3896
Folio 57
Page 24
Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

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Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Apr 2016 12:43

Baptism: 7 Aug 1864 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Selina Ashcroft - [Child] of Henry Ashcroft & Sarah
Born: 17 Jul
Abode: Standishgate
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Saml. Doria Offg. Minisr.
Register: Baptisms 1861 - 1865, Page 346, Entry 2766
Source: LDS Film 1885682

Baptism: 10 Jun 1866 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Henry Ashcroft - [Child] of Henry Ashcroft & Sarah
Born: 14 Apr
Abode: 41 Stanley St.
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: George T. O. Bridgeman Rector
Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1868, Page 140, Entry 1120
Source: LDS Film 1885683

Baptism: 9 Jun 1868 St Catharine, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Ascroft - [Child] of Henry Ascroft & Sarah
Born: 8 Jun 1868
Abode: Stanley's Row
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: T. Higham
Register: Baptisms 1860 - 1872, Page 134, Entry 1071
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 8 Nov 1868 St Catharine, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Ascroft - [Child] of Henry Ascroft & Sarah
Born: 16 Jun 1868
Abode: 41 Stanley St.
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: J. Ridley
Register: Baptisms 1860 - 1872, Page 139, Entry 1107
Source: Original register at Wigan Archi

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 16 Apr 2016 12:58

Definitely some new info there.....thank you.

Hude? Had not thought of that variation before...thanks. I have tried saying Eaude in so many ways........even Odour (as in cologne) :-D

Will work on that later when I come back in.

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Apr 2016 13:01

a bit of a long shot

Marriage: 31 Jul 1871 St George, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Robert Stuart - (X), Full, Collier, Widower, Boyswell Field
Margaret Yewd - (X), Full, Spinster, Key Street
Groom's Father: John Stuart, Unknown
Bride's Father: John Yewd, Weaver
Witness: John Bamber, (X); Alice Henderson, (X)
Married by Banns by: Philip Hains
Register: Marriages 1867 - 1873, Page 155, Entry 309
Source: LDS Film 1885726

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 16 Apr 2016 13:09

Yewd? Another variation. Thank you. :-D

Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Apr 2016 14:15

Possible 1851 foe Elizabeth Eaude. Also Margaret with father John fits marriage found by Maddie


Name:
Elizabeth Eande
[Elizabeth Eaude]
Age:10
Estimated birth year:abt 1841
Relation:Daughter
Father's name:John Eande Gender:
Female
Where born:Wigan, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Wigan
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district:Wigan
Sub-registration district:
Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel:1gg
Neighbors:
View others on page
Household schedule number:80
Piece:2199
Folio:864
Page Number:23
Household Members:
Name
Age

John Eande 49
Peter Eande 16
Martha Eande 13
Elizabeth Eande 10
Margaret Eande 7

Andy

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Apr 2016 14:43

1841

Peter Eande
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name Peter Eande
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Wigan, Lancashire, England
Residence Note Crispin'S Court
Gender Male
Age 7
Age (Original) 7
Occupation Null
Birth Year (Estimated) 1834
Birthplace Lancashire
Registration District Wigan
Book Number 13
Parish Wigan
County Lancashire
Page Number 20
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 523/14
Affiliate Record Type Institution
Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace
John Eande M NULL Lancashire
Alice Eande F NULL Lancashire
Jane Eande F NULL Lancashire
Peter Eande M NULL Lancashire
Martha Eande F NULL Lancashire
Elizabeth Eande F 4 months Lancashire
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1841," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQL2-7QY : accessed 16 April 2016), Peter Eande in household of John Eande, Wigan, Lancashire, England; from "1841 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO HO 107, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.