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Cynthia
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16 Apr 2016 11:26 |
Morning all
I am hoping to track the parents of the following lady - Jane Ashcroft.
Marriage: 12 May 1913 St Mary, Ince, Lancashire, England Richard Bushell - 23, Collier, Bachelor, 23 Cross Street Jane Ashcroft - 19, Spinster, 7 Margaret Street Groom's Father: Henry Bushell, deceased, Labourer Bride's Father: William Henry Ashcroft, Collier Witness: Nehemiah Edwards; Catherine Guest Married by Banns by: J. A. Cooil
I have her details after her marriage (she and Richard had four sons) but am having difficulty in going backwards with her parents.
It is possible that her father married an Alice Eaude, but that brings its own problems due to mistranscriptions of that name - Eude - Cude - Youde etc.
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1889 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference ASHCROFT William Henry EAUDE Alice Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended.
This is could be Jane's baptism - she would have been 15 at the time.
Baptism: 15 Dec 1909 St Nathaniel, Platt Bridge, Hindley, Lancashire, England Jane Ashcroft - [Child] of William Henry Ashcroft & Alice Abode: Adelaiide {sic] St. Occupation: Collier Baptised by: C.R.Slee.
I have Jane on the 1901 and 1911 - father born in Orrell in Wigan.
Going backwards, I have her father on the 71 and 91 census with a possible baptism in 1866 but can only find a suitable birth in 1868! At this point I went to bed.
Tackling her mother's side (if the name is Eaude)......there is her birth in 1861 but cannot find her between then and her marriage in 1889.
At this stage........I would really appreciate some help and advice as I feel I am missing something obvious. If all else fails, I will need the Ashcroft/Eaue marriage cert I guess.
Thanks.
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16 Apr 2016 11:45 |
1911 ?? Name: Jane Ashcroft Age in 1911: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1894 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Ince in Makerfield Search Photos: Search for 'Ince in Makerfield' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 20 Adelaide St Platt Bridge Nr Wigan Marital Status: Single Occupation: Ring Spinner Registration district: Wigan Registration District Number: 458 Sub-registration district: Hindley ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Piece: 23040 Household Members: Name Age William Hy Ashcroft 48 --- Coal Miner Hewer Alice Ashcroft 50 Margaret Ashcroft 20 Jane Ashcroft 17 Ellen Ashcroft 14 William Ashcroft 6
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16 Apr 2016 11:47 |
1901 Name: Jane Ashcroft Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1894 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: William Ashcroft Mother: Alice Ashcroft Birth Place: Platt Bridge, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Ince in Makerfield Search Photos: Search for 'Ince in Makerfield' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Ince County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Hindley ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3563 Folio: 60 Page Number: 52 Household schedule number: 266 Household Members: Name Age William Ashcroft 32 Alice Ashcroft 39 Margaret Ashcroft 10 Jane Ashcroft 7 Ellen Ashcroft 3 George Berry 1
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16 Apr 2016 11:51 |
William Henry Ashcroft
in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Record Image View
Order a Marriage Certificate for William Henry Ashcroft Search for William Henry Ashcroft in the UK Census Collection Search for William Henry Ashcroft in the London Times
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Name: William Henry Ashcroft Registration Year: 1889 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Wigan Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 152 Records on Page: Name William Henry Ashcroft Lydia Lavinia Byers Alice Eaude John Farley
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Cynthia
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16 Apr 2016 11:54 |
Thanks Maddie.....yes that's what I found too.....so I must be on the right track - at least a step in the right direction.
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16 Apr 2016 12:00 |
??? EAUDE Alice Wigan Wigan & Leigh EAUDE WIG/61/373 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1860
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Cynthia
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16 Apr 2016 12:12 |
Yep.....but she disappears from then until 1889....or at least, I can't find her...... :(
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16 Apr 2016 12:13 |
ASHCROFT Ellen Hindley Wigan & Leigh EUDE HNDL/127/448 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1897
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16 Apr 2016 12:19 |
SIBLINGS ?? Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1863 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference EAUDE Jane Wigan Wigan & Leigh EAUDE WIG/69/168
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1866 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
Baptism: 1 Apr 1866 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England John Eaude - [Child] of Margaret Eaude Born: 2 Mar Abode: 1 Rigby's Yard, Lime St. Baptised by: George T. O. Bridgeman Rector Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1868, Page 117, Entry 930 Source: LDS Film 1885683 EAUDE John Wigan Wigan & Leigh CAUDE WIG/79/248
Baptism: 23 Mar 1863 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Jane Eaude - [Child] of Elizabeth Eaude Born: 13 Feb 1863 Abode: Millgate Baptised by: C. H. Newbold Clerk in Orders Register: Baptisms 1861 - 1865, Page 194, Entry 1549 Source: LDS Film 1885682
Baptism: 1 Apr 1866 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England John Eaude - [Child] of Margaret Eaude Born: 2 Mar Abode: 1 Rigby's Yard, Lime St. Baptised by: George T. O. Bridgeman Rector Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1868, Page 117, Entry 930 Source: LDS Film 1885683
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16 Apr 2016 12:20 |
I did wonder about those - looks like mum wasn't interested in marriage... :-D
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Andrew
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16 Apr 2016 12:22 |
Just looking at this baptism......
Wigan, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1911
Name:Alice Hude Birth Date:22 Dec 1860 Baptism Date:30 Dec 1860 Baptism Place:Wigan, All Saints, Lancashire, England Mother:Elizabeth Hude Parish as it Appears:Wigan
Correct dates for birth for Alice Eaude.....
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16 Apr 2016 12:28 |
going by the census age it looks like william henry ashcroft was born in 1863
William Ascroft England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008 birth registration: 1863 Wigan, Lancashire, England
William H Ascroft England and Wales Birth Registration Index Name William H Ascroft Event Type Birth Registration Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration Year 1866 Registration District Wigan County Lancashire Event Place Wigan, Lancashire, England Volume 8C Page 35
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16 Apr 2016 12:34 |
?? Baptism: 10 Jun 1866 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England William Henry Ashcroft - [Child] of Henry Ashcroft & Sarah Born: 14 Apr Abode: 41 Stanley St. Occupation: Miner Baptised by: George T. O. Bridgeman Rector Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1868, Page 140, Entry 1120 Source: LDS Film 1885683
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16 Apr 2016 12:37 |
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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Standish Road, Orrell, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Ashcroft Head - Male 48 1823 - Lancashire, England Transcription Mary Ellen Ashcroft Daughter - Female 24 1847 - Lancashire, England Transcription Margaret Ashcroft Daughter - Female 17 1854 - Lancashire, England Transcription Esther Ashcroft Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Lancashire, England Transcription Sarah Ashcroft Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Lancashire, England Transcription George Ashcroft Son - Male 9 1862 - Lancashire, England Transcription William H Ashcroft Grandson - Male 2 1869 - Lancashire, England Transcription Margaret Ashcroft Granddaughter - Female 1 1870 - Lancashire, England Transcription Census details First name(s) William H Last name Ashcroft Relationship Grandson Marital status - Gender Male Age 2 Birth year 1869 Occupation - Birth town - Birth county Lancashire Birth county as transcribed LANCASHIRE Birth place England House name - Street Standish Road Parish Orrell Town - City - County Lancashire Country England Registration district Wigan Archive reference RG10 Piece number 3896 Folio 57 Page 24 Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Census Collections from Great Britain
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16 Apr 2016 12:43 |
Baptism: 7 Aug 1864 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Selina Ashcroft - [Child] of Henry Ashcroft & Sarah Born: 17 Jul Abode: Standishgate Occupation: Collier Baptised by: Saml. Doria Offg. Minisr. Register: Baptisms 1861 - 1865, Page 346, Entry 2766 Source: LDS Film 1885682
Baptism: 10 Jun 1866 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England William Henry Ashcroft - [Child] of Henry Ashcroft & Sarah Born: 14 Apr Abode: 41 Stanley St. Occupation: Miner Baptised by: George T. O. Bridgeman Rector Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1868, Page 140, Entry 1120 Source: LDS Film 1885683
Baptism: 9 Jun 1868 St Catharine, Wigan, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Ascroft - [Child] of Henry Ascroft & Sarah Born: 8 Jun 1868 Abode: Stanley's Row Occupation: Miner Baptised by: T. Higham Register: Baptisms 1860 - 1872, Page 134, Entry 1071 Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
Baptism: 8 Nov 1868 St Catharine, Wigan, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Ascroft - [Child] of Henry Ascroft & Sarah Born: 16 Jun 1868 Abode: 41 Stanley St. Occupation: Miner Baptised by: J. Ridley Register: Baptisms 1860 - 1872, Page 139, Entry 1107 Source: Original register at Wigan Archi
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Cynthia
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16 Apr 2016 12:58 |
Definitely some new info there.....thank you.
Hude? Had not thought of that variation before...thanks. I have tried saying Eaude in so many ways........even Odour (as in cologne) :-D
Will work on that later when I come back in.
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Maddie
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16 Apr 2016 13:01 |
a bit of a long shot
Marriage: 31 Jul 1871 St George, Wigan, Lancashire, England Robert Stuart - (X), Full, Collier, Widower, Boyswell Field Margaret Yewd - (X), Full, Spinster, Key Street Groom's Father: John Stuart, Unknown Bride's Father: John Yewd, Weaver Witness: John Bamber, (X); Alice Henderson, (X) Married by Banns by: Philip Hains Register: Marriages 1867 - 1873, Page 155, Entry 309 Source: LDS Film 1885726
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Cynthia
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16 Apr 2016 13:09 |
Yewd? Another variation. Thank you. :-D
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Andrew
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16 Apr 2016 14:15 |
Possible 1851 foe Elizabeth Eaude. Also Margaret with father John fits marriage found by Maddie
Name: Elizabeth Eande [Elizabeth Eaude] Age:10 Estimated birth year:abt 1841 Relation:Daughter Father's name:John Eande Gender: Female Where born:Wigan, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Wigan Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district:Wigan Sub-registration district: Wigan ED, institution, or vessel:1gg Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number:80 Piece:2199 Folio:864 Page Number:23 Household Members: Name Age
John Eande 49 Peter Eande 16 Martha Eande 13 Elizabeth Eande 10 Margaret Eande 7 Andy
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16 Apr 2016 14:43 |
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Peter Eande England and Wales Census, 1841 Name Peter Eande Event Type Census Event Date 1841 Event Place Wigan, Lancashire, England Residence Note Crispin'S Court Gender Male Age 7 Age (Original) 7 Occupation Null Birth Year (Estimated) 1834 Birthplace Lancashire Registration District Wigan Book Number 13 Parish Wigan County Lancashire Page Number 20 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 523/14 Affiliate Record Type Institution Household Role Gender Age Birthplace John Eande M NULL Lancashire Alice Eande F NULL Lancashire Jane Eande F NULL Lancashire Peter Eande M NULL Lancashire Martha Eande F NULL Lancashire Elizabeth Eande F 4 months Lancashire Citing this Record
"England and Wales Census, 1841," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQL2-7QY : accessed 16 April 2016), Peter Eande in household of John Eande, Wigan, Lancashire, England; from "1841 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO HO 107, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.
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