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Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 253 Send Message	Barry	Report	9 Apr 2016 21:13
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 253 Send Message	Hello i am trying to find some info on my great great grand parents Samuel and Caroline Pratt from Deeping St James in Linconshire. My line comes from there son Albert 1852 - 1909. Would love to know more on Samuel and Caroline {Robinson} eg where did they live in 1841 and 1851 what was Samuel job and where and when did they die also do we know where they are buried? thanks for looking
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	9 Apr 2016 21:17
	1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Vicarage, St James Deeping, Bourn, Lincolnshire, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Samuel Pratt Head Married Male 26 1825 No Lincolnshire, England Transcription Caroline Pratt Wife Married Female 29 1822 - Carlby, Lincolnshire, England Transcription William Pratt Son - Male 12 1839 - Carlby, Lincolnshire, England Transcription John Pratt Son - Male 4 1847 - Lincolnshire, England Transcription George Pratt Son - Male 2 1849 - Lincolnshire, England Transcription Infant - Son - Male 0 1851 - Lincolnshire, England
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	9 Apr 2016 21:39
	1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Eastgate, Deeping St James, Bourn, Lincolnshire, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Francis Landon Head - Male 65 1806 - Northamptonshire, England Transcription Louisa Landon Wife - Female 58 1813 - Sussex, England Transcription Frederick J Landon Son - Male 13 1858 - Lincolnshire, England Transcription Samuel Pratt Lodger - Male 49 1822 - Lincolnshire, England Transcription Albert Pratt Lodger - Male 20 1851 - Lincolnshire, England samuel is a ag lab
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	9 Apr 2016 21:41
	1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Horse Gate, Deeping St James, Bourn, Lincolnshire, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Samuel Batts Head Widower Male - - Agricultural Labourer Deeping St James, Lincolnshire, England Transcription John Batts Son - Male 14 1847 Agricultural Labourer Deeping St James, Lincolnshire, England Transcription George Batts Son - Male 13 1848 - Deeping St James, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Albert Batts Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Deeping St James, Lincolnshire, England Transcription Samuel Batts Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Deeping St James, Lincolnshire, England samuel is 38
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Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 12,081 Send Message	Andrew	Report	9 Apr 2016 21:45
	Marriage? Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1844 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRATT Samuel Bourn 14 404a SMITH Caroline Bourn 14 404A Andy
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	9 Apr 2016 21:47
	Even though the age is 'out' - Caroline's burial? Place Deeping St James Church name St James Register type Register entry number 814 Burial date 16 Nov 1855 Person age 30 Burial person forename Caroline Burial person surname PRATT Burial person abode This Parish Notes J George Vicar Page 114 http://freereg2.freereg.org.uk
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Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	9 Apr 2016 21:53
	Baptisms from Freereg, Deeping St James from 1839 County LIN Place Deeping St James Church name St James Register type Register entry number 362 Baptism date 20 Oct 1844 Person forename John Person sex M Person abode Deeping St James Father forename Samuel Father surname PRATT Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Caroline His burial? Field Value County LIN Place Deeping St James Church name St James Register type Register entry number 448 Burial date 28 Apr 1845 Person age Infant Burial person forename John Burial person surname PRATT Burial person abode Deeping St James ............ County LIN Place Deeping St James Church name St James Register type Register entry number 466 Baptism date 5 May 1846 Person forename John Person sex M Person abode Deeping St James Father forename Samuel Father surname PRATT Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Caroline County LIN Place Deeping St James Church name St James Register type Register entry number 652 Baptism date 8 Oct 1848 Person forename George Person sex M Person abode Deeping St James Father forename Samuel Father surname PRATT Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Caroline County LIN Place Deeping St James Church name St James Register type Register entry number 842 Baptism date 13 Apr 1851 Person forename Albert Person sex M Person abode Deeping St James St James Father forename Samuel Father surname PRATT Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Caroline
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Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	9 Apr 2016 22:23
	Freereg lists 2 burials 1871-1900 The year of birth for this one c1827 Field Value County LIN Place Deeping St James Church name St James Register type Register entry number 205 Burial date 22 Sep 1877 Person age 60 Burial person forename Samuel Burial person surname PRATT Burial person abode Deeping Gate Maxey Notes J George Vicar There is a newspaper report of his inquest. Apparently he'd been working in the fields with his brother - George Pratt - when he dropped down dead. .......... The second entry is Field Value County LIN Place Skirbeck Church name St Nicholas Register type Register entry number 850 Burial date 08 Sep 1896 Person age 73 Burial person forename Samuel Burial person surname PRATT Burial person abode Holy Trinity Ancestry links him to a Samuel Pratt who was born in Northamptonshire & who married the widow Martha Benaton in 1881 Samuel Pratt Registration Year: 1881 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Boston Inferred County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 794 Records on Page: Name Martha Benaton Samuel Pratt 1881 prior to their marriage Samuel Pratt Age: 59 Estimated birth year: abt 1822 Relationship to Head: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Brigstock, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Boston County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: 16 Archer Lane Marital Status: Widower Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Farm Labourer Registration district: Boston ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3217 Folio: 113 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Martha Bennett 53 Samuel Pratt 59 1891 Samuel Pratt Age: 68 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Martha Pratt Gender: Male Where born: Bridgestock, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Wyberton Ecclesiastical parish: Wyberton Town: Wyberton County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Boston ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2570 Folio: 54 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Pratt 68 Martha Pratt 63 If you are sure your Samuel was born in Lincolnshire, then obviously this one is not your man
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Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	9 Apr 2016 22:36
	Just to add to the confusion 'a' Samuel Pratt was a witness for the prosecution in a case of drunk-driving which was committed in Deeping St James on 16 Nov 1912. As he helped to move the vehicle, this Samuel was probably a lot younger than someone in his 90s!
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Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	9 Apr 2016 22:40
	Barry - its best to reply on the thread rather than by PM. You asked for the name and date for the newspaper article - inquest for the sudden death in 1877 There are reports 2 for the same incident. Previews iKprsev.—Uu Wednesday, the met., Mrs. Fowler's, the Crane inn. was held Ix-luro Mr. Selby. J. coroner, on view of the body Samuel Pratt, labourer, who died suddenly the field previous day. His brother, Pratt, that and deceased were working together the farm September 25, 1877 - Lincolnshire Free Press - Spalding, Lincolnshire, England the 20tli inst., at .Mrs. Fowler's, the inn, Deeping St. James, before F. T. Selby, Esq., deputy coroner, on the body of Samuel Pratt, labourer, of Deeping (late. —George Pratt deposed that he and deceased (his brother) were working together on the farm September 28, 1877 - Stamford Mercury - Stamford, Lincolnshire, England ........ If you believe it to be the correct person but don't have access to the BNA on Genes or elsewhere, I can download and forward by PM.
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Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	9 Apr 2016 22:45
	Actually - the first article states he was 46 years old!
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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	9 Apr 2016 23:19
	This is the 1851 Census from ancestry, which show's Samuel's birth place and occupation ............ 1851 Census Name: Samuel Pratt Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Caroline Pratt Gender: Male Where born: St Jas Deeping, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Deeping St James Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Bourn Sub-registration district: Corby ED, institution, or vessel: 4a Household schedule number: 200 Piece: 2095 Folio: 723 Page Number: 44 Samuel Pratt 26 no occupation shown Caroline Pratt 29 b.ca 1822, Carlby, Lincolnshire William Pratt 12 b.ca 1839, Carlby, Lincolnshire, Blind John Pratt 4 b.ca 1847, St Jas Deeping, Lincolnshire George Pratt 2 b.ca 1849, St Jas Deeping, Lincolnshire Infant 2 Wks b.ca 1851, St Jas Deeping, Lincolnshire Address:- St James Deeping Note that William Pratt has a note added that he was Blind
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	9 Apr 2016 23:27
	I THINK this is Samuel in 1841 ............. it does look like Pratt on the image, but perhaps someone else would like to check. 1841 Census Name: Samuel Bratt Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Fen Deeping Hundred: Ness County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Bourne Sub-registration district: Deeping Piece: 617 Book: 2 Folio: 5 Page Number: 3 John Stabs 25 Male Servant Samuel Bratt 15 Male Servant Jane Mesures 15 Female Servant Address:- Farm, Halfway House (???next word) They're all working for Joseph Ewen, Farmer In this context, Male Servant usually means Agricultural Labourer, or other job on a farm.
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	9 Apr 2016 23:41
	It definitely doesn't say 'Bratt' , and - looking at another capital S on the page I don't think it says 'Spratt' either. I think it is likely to be Pratt FMP transcription on the same 1841 census: 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Halfway House Dg Fen, Deeping Fen, Bourne, Lincolnshire, England Joseph Ewen Male 35 1806 Lincolnshire, England Jane Ewen Female 30 1811 Lincolnshire, England John Stubs Male 25 1816 Lincolnshire, England Samuel Spratt Male 15 1826 Lincolnshire, England Jane Mesures Female 15 1826 Lincolnshire, England
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	9 Apr 2016 23:54
	However- the marriage that Andy put up earlier is transcribed as Spratt on http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ 10th June 1844 Parish Carlby Samuel Spratt father deceased Caroline Smith father deceased
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	10 Apr 2016 00:02
	Thanks for looking Austin! I THINK that William Pratt age 15 on the 1851 Census was Caroline's child, from a previous marriage? Note that the marriage say that Samuel married Caroline Smith, but the mother's maiden name according to Barry's OP is Robinson so did Caroline Robinson marry a Mr Smith, and when?
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	10 Apr 2016 00:04
	I wonder if he made a mistake- it was son Albert that married Robinson?
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	10 Apr 2016 00:07
	I looked at the spreadsheet for the marriage ......... and it does not say that Caroline was a Widow, and there was no other comment. so how does Robinson, which I presume Barry got from Albert's birth certificate, fit with Smith on the marriage?
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	10 Apr 2016 00:09
	Austin ............ you may be correct I've been trying to find William either in the 1841 or after a851, to see if that helps ......... but have had no success!
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: September 2015 Posts: 5,278 Send Message	AustinQ	Report	10 Apr 2016 00:13
	Possible? 1841 Name: William Smith Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Gender: Male Where born: Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Carlby Hundred: Ness County/Island: Lincolnshire Registration district: Bourne Sub-registration district: Bourne Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 616 Book: 2 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Dye 60 Elizabeth Dye 55 Henry Longfoot 75 William Smith 3<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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