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30 Mar 2016 14:01 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 9, West Street, Bethnal Green, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Willingale Head Married Male 64 1817 Gen Lab Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Etherline Willingale Wife Married Female 62 1819 - Suffolk, England Alfred W Willingale Son Single Male 22 1859 Gen Lab Mile End, Middlesex, England
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30 Mar 2016 14:02 |
Charles Willingale with first wife & children in 1841 ???
Charles Willingale in the 1841 England Census Name: Charles Willingale Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St John The Evangelist Hundred: Westminster County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Westminster Sub-registration district: St John the Evangelist Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 737 Book: 15 Folio: 8 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Edward Hooper 70 Hannah Hooper 65 Emma Hooper 10 Chas Willingale 25 Kezia Willingale 25 Charles Willingale 6 Samuel Willingale 4 Kezia Willingale 10 Mo
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30 Mar 2016 14:03 |
?? Charles 1841 with first wife. He is a Coachman. Children Charles and Samuel are of an age to be the Charles and Samuel shown on the 1851
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Gray Coat Street, St John the Evangelist, Westminster, Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Edward Hooper Male 70 1771 Middlesex, England Hannah Hooper Female 65 1776 Middlesex, England Emma Hooper Female 10 1831 Middlesex, England Chas Willingale Male 25 1816 Middlesex, England <<<<<<<< Kezia Willingale Female 25 1816 Middlesex, England Charles Willingale Male 6 1835 Middlesex, England Samuel Willingale Male 4 1837 Middlesex, England Kezia Willingale Female 0 1841 Middlesex, England James Buchanan Male 45 1796 - Ann Buchanan Female 45 1796 - Alexander Buchanan Male 35 1806 - Sarah Buchanan Female 21 1820 Middlesex, England James Buchanan Male 14 1827 Middlesex, England Mary Buchanan Female 11 1830 Middlesex, England Henry Buchanan Male 9 1832 Middlesex, England Robt Castleman Male 30 1811 Middlesex, England Martha Castleman Female 30 1811 Middlesex, England
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30 Mar 2016 14:09 |
Could this be Charles's first wife? If so, they must have separated. Certainly I can't see a death for her before he appears with Ethelinda, as well as not being able to find a Willingale/ Harris marriage..
She's listed as unmarried here - of course might be someone completely different . . . ..
Kesia Willingale in the 1861 England Census Name: Kesia Willingale Age: 44 Estimated birth year: 1817 Relation: Sister-in-law Gender: Female Where born: St Anns, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Pancras Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 335 Piece: 101 Folio: 136 Page Number: 47 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Willingale 53 Kesia Willingale 44
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30 Mar 2016 14:22 |
I can't find a Willingale/Kezia marriage
London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: William George Willingale Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 9 Sep 1838 Father's name: Charles Willingale - a Coachman Mother's name: Keziah Willingale Parish or Poor Law Union: Vincent Square St Mary Borough: Westminster Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
born 17.3.1838
and also same date Samuel Richard Jones Willingale b 22.7.1836
Abode - 2 Brady's Place
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30 Mar 2016 14:24 |
Name: Elizabeth Ethelinda Willingale Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 30 May 1852 Father's name: Charles Willingale Mother's name: Ethelinda Willingale Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Mary Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
Born 15.4.1852 Abode Turner Street. Father an Omnibus Driver
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30 Mar 2016 14:30 |
Name: Charles Willingale Harris Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 29 Aug 1858 Mother's name: Ethelinda Harris Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Mary Borough: Tower Hamlets
Born (? 6th) June 1857. No Father named. Abode 9 (Ladylakis?) Grove
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30 Mar 2016 14:37 |
I have just noticed in your 13:03 post that you say Ethelinda is Harris nee Stearn !!
Ethelinda Stearn England Births and Christenings Name Ethelinda Stearn Gender Female Christening Date 11 Jun 1820 Christening Place SUFFOLK COUNTY BTS, SUFFOLK, ENGLAND Birthplace STANTON ALL SAINTS Father's Name Joseph Stearn Mother's Name Hannah
-------------------------------------- Ethelinda Stearn England and Wales Marriage Registration Index Name Ethelinda Stearn Event Type Marriage Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration Year 1839 Registration District Ipswich County Suffolk Event Place Ipswich, Suffolk, England Volume 12 Page 479 Line Number 88 Ethelinda Stearn probably married one of the following people Name Frederic Hardee Name Edward Harris Name Jane Rands Name Henry Rush Name Lydia Southgate
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30 Mar 2016 14:39 |
??? "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch
Joseph Stearn mentioned in the record of Joseph Stearn and Hannah Mills Name Joseph Stearn Spouse's Name Hannah Mills Event Date 03 Jun 1811 Event Place Melton,Suffolk,England
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30 Mar 2016 14:40 |
This is interesting !!
Joseph Stearn mentioned in the record of William Snowling Stearn Name Joseph Stearn Gender Male Wife Hannah Mills Son William Snowling Stearn Name William Snowling Stearn <<<<<<<<<<<<< Gender Male Christening Date 01 Aug 1824 Christening Place INDEPENDENT,WOODBRIDGE,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND Birth Date 06 Jun 1821 Father's Name Joseph Stearn Mother's Name Hannah Mills CITING THIS RECORD
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch
If anyone has access to the Genealogist then the image is available on that site. As it's non-conformist you might get Hannah Mills parents names recorded.
EDIT - lots of trees on Ancestry with him in - married and died Australia
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30 Mar 2016 15:04 |
And on that note, I've just seen the time - no lunch yet and the dog needs to go out!!
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Ellen
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30 Mar 2016 16:59 |
I found Ethelinda Harris aged 75 years in 1891 living with her Niece Charlotte (nee Cuttriss) Dodd & husband Robert (a customs officer) at 6 Hengage Lane St Katherine Cree London living on her own means. I assumed she did not remarry.
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Ellen
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30 Mar 2016 17:05 |
William Snowling Stearn was the brother of Ethelinda, I have been searching for sometime to find out where the name Snowling came from. Finding Elizabeth Ann Snowling being the aunt of Ethelinda makes me think this is the connection but where? is it with her husband William Snowling?
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30 Mar 2016 17:30 |
Just for the record, (though not relevant to the search for the link between Elizabeth Ann and Ethelinda) here's the marriage of Charles Willingale and Kezia -:
Kezia Jones Hooper in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Kezia Jones Hooper Spouse: Charles Whellingale Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 4 Aug 1834 Parish: St James, Paddington Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Register
And probably Kezia in 1901 (widow, formerly needlewoman):
Keziah Willingale in the 1901 England Census Name: Keziah Willingale Age: 88 Estimated birth year: abt 1813 Relation to Head: Inmate Gender: Female Birth Place: N, Feeble Minded Civil Parish: Chelsea Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Chelsea County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Chelsea Sub-registration district: Chelsea, North ED, institution, or vessel: Chelsea Workhouse Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 76 Folio: 18 Page Number: 29 Household schedule number: 1
And in 1891, with daughter Kezia:
Kezia J Willingall in the 1891 England Census Name: Kezia J Willingall Age: 78 Estimated birth year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Pimlico, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Willesden Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Hendon ED, institution, or vessel: 22a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1047 Folio: 89 Page Number: 45 Household Members: Name Age Kezia J Willingall 78 - widow Kezia L Willingall 49
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30 Mar 2016 17:50 |
this is probably about the William Snowling you think may have married Elizabeth Ann:
http://www.suffolkcamra.co.uk/pubs/brewery/333
A report in the Ipswich Journal** in Sep 1840 states :
To be sold by auction, by the instructions of Mr Snowling, who is retiring from business, the capital plant of his brewery in Lower Orwell Street, Ipswich; comprising a capital nearly new 160 gallon copper, with large tap and furnace; stout 5 barrel liquor back, with pipe; superior stout iron bound 5 coomb mash tub, with false bottom and cover; underback, 3 copper fastened cooling backs 8ft by 5ft each, the copper stage and brick belonging to the copper, 9 iron bound strong 3 barrel beer stands; hogshead, barrels, half barrels, firkins, truck, wort pump with brass valve, several broad staved ladders, 2 oak iron bound working backs, stillions; the building in the yard used as a brewery, with roof over copper; capital malt mill, with hopper, by Ransome; bushel and half bushel measures, carpenter's bench, chest, tools; 2 oak beams. Deal partition in tap room, 16ft by 6ft high, with glazed frame on the top; several brass beer taps, tin cans; quart, pint, half pint mugs; Quantity of sacks, several long forms, circular form with high back, round and square tables, mahogany beer waiter, excellent saccharometer in mahogany box, siphon, and other effects.
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30 Mar 2016 17:57 |
Found on CuriousFox - possibly posted by you, Ellen, if you live in Perth, Australia?:
Ethelinda Stearn I am looking for any further information on my Ethelinda Stearn. This is what I already know Born 1820 Suffolk; Baptisted 11th June 1820 at All Saints Stanton Suffolk. Married 9th May 1839 to a Edward Harris at St Mary's ? Ipswich Her parents were Joseph Stearn born abt 1772 Bradfield St Clare Suffolk died 10th December 1840 at Melton Suffolk & Hannah Mills born abt 1790 Ubbeston Suffolk died 7th November 1827 Melton Suffolk buried Beaumont Baptist Church Melton Suffolk. Siblings (1 ) Joseph Stearn 10th December 1812 Baptisted 10th January 1813 died 3rd October 1889 at 24 Lishburn Road All Saints Newmarket (2) Edward Stearn born 1814 Melton Suffolk Baptisted 11th June 1820 died 14th January 1889 at 57 Clarke Street, City of Melbourne (3) Daniel 1815 Suffolk Baptisted 3rd February 1815 died 26th July 1868 at Warnambool Victoria Australia (4) William Snowling Stearn 6th June 1821 Suffolk Baptisted 1st April 1824 died 22nd November 1912 Wangaratta Victoria (5) Elizabeth Ann born 22nd May 1823 Suffolk Baptisted 1st August 1824 died 3rd April 1896 26 Philpot Lane Yenchurch Street, Sub Dist of Allhallows I have her marriage EDWARD DANIEL & WILLIAM SNOWLING were all convicts sent to Australia I have all of their convictions & marriages & children If anyone call fill me in on anything more for Ethelinda born 1820 I would really appreciate it Thank You
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30 Mar 2016 18:06 |
Hannah Mills' parents & Siblings (I was hoping her mother's name had maybe been Snowling, but can't find what it was):
http://www.members.shaw.ca/claydonpsn/pafg206.htm#9997
Nicholas MILLS was born about 1760 in Suffolk, England. He married Jane.
Jane was born about 1760 in Suffolk, England. She married Nicholas MILLS.
They had the following children:
M i Simon MILLS was born in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England and was christened on 15 Dec 1782 in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England. M ii William MILLS was born in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England and was christened on 19 Jan 1786 in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England. M iii Daniel MILLS was christened on 03 Jun 1787. F iv Hannah MILLS was born in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England and was christened on 02 May 1790 in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England. F v Lucy MILLS was born in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England and was christened on 28 Jan 1793 in Ubbeston, Suffolk, England.
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30 Mar 2016 18:50 |
06 April 1822 - The Ipswich Journal - Ipswich, Suffolk, England
William Snowling, ard Win. Dow, for a brgaliry in tie dlwellingihou.ic of 'ir. Gosling, of' Fressingfield ; Williamt Aldous, tor setting ...”
08 May 1822 - Bury and Norwich Post - Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Wednesday morning the following convicts were removed from Ipswich County Gaol, to be put on board the hulks at Portsmouth: — William Snowling, Wm. Dow, William Barber, Taylor Jacob, Jas. Thurlow , James Ling, and Geor»e Hunter. Committed to Ipswich Borough Gaol ...”
02 May 1840 - The Suffolk Chronicle; or Weekly General Advertiser
CASE OF Assault. Snowling stearn, of Melton, labourer, and William Maijoram, of Bredfield, jobber, appeared before the Magistrates to answer a charge of ...”
15 November 1851 - The Ipswich Journal - Ipswich, Suffolk, England
William Snowling Stearn, for stealing fifteen wooden rails from a fence io the occupation of Emma Blanud. of Melton: 21 days' herdt labour.-Wiliam ...”
(above relate to Australia one, probably more Newspapers)
SNOWLING William Surry 1823 44/413 Ticket of Leave [4/4185; Reel 951] District: Bathurst; Tried: Suffolk QS
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx
Chris :)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y
(looks to be in above also, Aus. Newspapers)
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Ellen
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31 Mar 2016 00:37 |
Yes Ethelinda's parents were Joseph Stearn & Hannah Mills I have all of this information thanks, including the convictions of the 3 sons (who were all transported to Australia ) & father who died in Melton 10/12/ 1840 Hannah died 17/11/1827. I to have looked for Jane's parents hoping it to be Snowling. I have Joseph & Hannah's marriage & death certificates I also have Ethelinda & Edward Harris marriage certificate William Snowling was a witness for Ethelinda Thank you for the Auction information I did not have this Yes it is me on Curiousfox
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31 Mar 2016 14:53 |
I think Elizabeth Ann who married William Snowling was Elizabeth Ann Mills born 21/10/1780 Quay Meeting House Independent Woodbridge Bapt 21/10/1780 parents James Mills & Elizabeth Caroline ? Ethelinda's mother was a Hannah Mills born abt 1790 Suffolk died 7/11/1827 Melton Suffolk. There must be a connection here somewhere?
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