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Eunice
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22 Mar 2016 09:24 |
Thank you sooooooooo much for all this help I keep looking but don't seem to find much I must be looking in the wrong places or I am not to bright I wish I could do what you do thank you again your a star :-)
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AustinQ
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21 Mar 2016 19:07 |
Evening Eunice- You may have found more yourself, but just in case, following on from Maddie's US records this is a little more on Henry John Bush (Later known as John Henry)
I believe he was in the US in 1899 and joined the army- the date of birth is out, but I'm pretty certain it's him:
U.S. Army, Register of Enlistments, 1798-1914
John Henry Bush Enlisted 21 March 1899 Bangor, Maine Born: Bristol, England Age 21, and 3 months Occupation: Cook Brown Hair, Brown eyes, height 5' 9 1/4 " Discharged: 1908 --------------------------------------------------------
He then marries in 1912 to Bertha Willard- she was also know as Bertha Linden (I presume her mother remarried to a Mr Linden):
Indiana, Marriage Index, 1800-1941
Name John H. Bush Spouse Name Bertha Willard Marriage Date 30 Dec 1912 Marriage County Lake Household Members Name Age John H. Bush Bertha Willard --------------------------------------------------------------
John and Bertha have at least two daughters:
Florence born 19th Feb 1913 Cook, Illinois, died 1986 married name- Skibinski Frances born 29th June 1920 Chicago, Illinois, died 2003 used the surname Rizzo -----------------------------------------------------------
John H is then mentioned on the WW1 Draft Registration Card put up by Maddie- listed as Brown hair/ brown eyes, DOB- 18 Dec 1880 ---------------------------------------------------------
John Henry is still in Illinois on the 1940 US census with Wife and Mother-in-law ---------------------------------------------------------------
But John and Bertha die in Florida:
John H grave: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=8668056&ref=acom
John H death:
Florida Death Index, 1877-1998 View Record Name John Henry Bush Race White Age at Death 95 Birth Date 18 Dec 1877 Death Date 4 Feb 1973 Death Place Orange, Florida, United States -----------------------------------------------
Bertha Death: (The D is for Dorothy)
Florida Death Index, 1877-1998 View Record Name Bertha D Bush Race White Age at Death 90 Birth Date 25 Dec 1884 Death Date 6 Jan 1975 Death Place Martin, Florida, United States
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20 Mar 2016 19:40 |
well what can I say Austin you really have gone to town thank does not really seem enough but thank you so very much
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AustinQ
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20 Mar 2016 18:37 |
I also think (James) Albert went to Devon too (although you would need the marriage certificate to confirm):
1901: 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Musbury Road, Axminster, Devon, England Fred Newman Head Married Male 37 1864 Labourer On Railway Shute, Devon, Emma Newman Wife - Female 40 1861 - Axminster, Devon, England William Newman Son - Male 12 1889 - Axminster, Devon, England Edwin Newman Son - Male 8 1893 - Axminster, Devon, England Fred Newman Son - Male 7 1894 - Axminster, Devon, England Albert Bush Lodger - Male 14 1887 Jobbing Boy Bristol, Gloucestershire, Charles Johnson Boarder - Male 12 1889 - Bristol, Gloucestershire ----------------------------------------------------------
Marriage in Devon: Marriages Jun 1910 BUSH Albert St. Thomas 5b 110 LONG Nina Mabel St. Thomas 5b 110 --------------------------------------------------------------
1911 back in Bristol:
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 23 William Street, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Albert Bush Head Married Male Carpenter 26 1885 Gloucestershire Bristol Nina Mabel Bush Wife Married Female - 27 1884 Budleigh Salterton Devon ----------------------------------------------------
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Maddie
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20 Mar 2016 18:31 |
John Henry Bush
in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Record Image View
Name: John Henry Bush City: Chicago County: Cook State: Illinois Birth Date: 18 Dec 1880 Race: White address 4291 wentworth ave chicargo a produce dealer relative bertha bush wife Draft Board: 07
John Bush
in the 1930 United States Federal Census Record Image View
Name: John Bush Birth Year: abt 1879 Gender: Male Race: White [Mexican (Latino)] Birthplace: England Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois Map of Home: View Map Street address: Wentworth Ave. Ward of City: 3 Block: 11 House Number in Cities or Towns: 4135 Dwelling Number: 37 Family Number: 56 Home Owned or Rented: Owned Home Value: 6000 Radio Set: Yes Lives on Farm: No Age at First Marriage: 33 Attended School: No Able to Read and Write: Yes Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Language Spoken: English Immigration Year: 1908 Naturalization: Naturalized Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: Clerk Tax Industry: City of Chic. Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker Employment: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Bush 51 Bertha Bush 46 Florence Bush 17 Frances Bush 9
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Eunice
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20 Mar 2016 18:28 |
Thank you Maddie :-)
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20 Mar 2016 18:14 |
1939 Register Transcription
Bridle Household (2 People) 25 Heber Street , Bristol C.B., Gloucestershire, England Attach to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Emma F (Florence) Bridle 08 Nov 1882 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 79 2 Henry Bridle 09 Feb 1882 Male Retort Scurfer (Gas Work) Married 79 1
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Eunice
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20 Mar 2016 18:06 |
thanks again you have been great :-D
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AustinQ
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20 Mar 2016 17:24 |
Hello Eunice,
I think Rose may be correct about one of Alfred's siblings going to America- I think it was Henry John Bush- I think he probably went by the name John Henry- although I'm getting a bit muddled with the US records.
I'll return to it later- or may be someone else will take a look- for reference, we are looking for: Henry John Bush born 18th Dec 1880 Bristol
Alfred's sister, Florence Emma married Henry J Bridle in 1902 DEVON
Florence's birth: First name(s) FLORENCE EMMA Last name BUSH Birth year 1882 Birth quarter 4 District BRISTOL County Gloucestershire Volume 6A Page 48 ----------------------------------------------
Marriage: Marriages Dec 1902 Braund Elizabeth St. Thomas 5b 136 Bridle Henry John St. Thomas 5b 136 <<<<<<<<<< Bush Florence Emma St. Thomas 5b 136 <<<<<<<<<<<< Parsons Henry Edward St. Thomas 5b 136 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
This is Florence in 1911:
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 25 New St Exmouth, Withycombe Raleigh, Devon, England
Florence Bridle Wife Married Female Home 28 1883 St Augustine Bristol Harry Bridle Head Married Male Masons Labourer 28 1883 Withycombe Exmouth Devon Florry Bridle Daughter - Female School 7 1904 Withycombe Exmouth Devon Harry Bridle Son - Male - 0 1911 Withycombe Exmouth Devon Amy Garner Boarder Single Female Domestic Servant 22 1889 Aylesbury Buckinghamshire ------------------------------------------------------------------
By 1939 she had moved back to Bristol (I don't have access to full record)
Bridle Household Bristol C.B., Gloucestershire, England Emma F (Florence) Bridle 1882 Henry Bridle 1882 ------------------------------------------------------------------
Florence death:
Name: Florence Emma Bridle Birth Date: 8 Nov 1882 Date of Registration: Dec 1971 Age at Death: 89 Registration district: Weston-super-Mare Inferred County: Somerset Volume: 7c Page: 1441
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Eunice
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19 Mar 2016 18:13 |
oh thank you your very kind it would be nice to no what happened to them all
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AustinQ
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19 Mar 2016 17:27 |
I may have another look tomorrow, see if I can dig up anything else.
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Eunice
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19 Mar 2016 17:23 |
That is a shame but thank you any way for all your hard work :-)
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AustinQ
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19 Mar 2016 17:13 |
I think it's going to be difficult to be certain finding George as I can't see a definite birth registration for him or baptism.
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Eunice
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19 Mar 2016 16:25 |
George was 2 years older than Alfred so he would have been 16 17 in 1891 but it could still be him if the age was given wrong or printed wrong
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Eunice
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19 Mar 2016 16:07 |
looks very much like our Alfred and looks like he really had a bad time after his mother died I was just sat here thinking how Alfred would be looking after his brother George both being so young but looks like George was on his own for a few yrs it just is so so sad
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19 Mar 2016 16:07 |
I know the age is a little out, but wondered if this was George in 1891:
1891 George Bush Under Detention 14, Scholar, Bristol
Civil Parish: St Stephens Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: Gloucestershire Registration district: Bristol ED, institution, or vessel: Formidable Piece: 1959 Folio: 122 Page Number: 2
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AustinQ
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19 Mar 2016 15:21 |
Eunice, there is an article in the paper re an Alfred Bush- but I'm not 100% that it's your Alfred- although it looks likely.
Bristol Mercury - Monday 23 June 1890
BRISTOL POLICE COURT- SATURDAY
THEFT FROM A BARGE. Alfred Bush, aged 14 years was charged on remand with stealing, in company of three other lads, a drawer and various articles, value 5s, the property of Thomas Ferris, captain of the barge 'Faith'. The case was proved on Friday, the boys having been seen on the previous evening to forcibly enter the cabin of the barge whilst it was lying in the Floating Harbour near Canon's Marsh. Prisoner was committed to gaol for 10 days, and ordered to be afterwards sent to a reformatory for five years. -------------------------------------------
The above refers to this Alfred which could be yours: 1891 Alfred Bush Under detention in Reformatory 14, Bristol
Civil Parish: Oldland Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Gloucestershire Registration district: Keynsham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 1943 Folio: 47 Page Number: 2
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19 Mar 2016 15:05 |
well at least he found some hope in his life and we no Alfred survived but how would be nice to find out that leaves George because he would have been about 15 at this time and Alfred about 13 thank you for all this help Austin
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19 Mar 2016 14:52 |
Yes, the youngest, Charles, was just a baby too. I've been trying to find the older children from the 1881 census- not sure they all survived though
In 1891 Stephen (Alfred's oldest brother) was lodging with the Hayes family age 16 and working as a labourer.
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Eunice
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19 Mar 2016 14:45 |
oh god so they had more children than I have down and no wonder he could not cope after sarah died :-(
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