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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Mar 2016 22:07

One of those births posted by Malyon (presumably the second one) will be this other Emily:

Emily Allen
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Emily Allen
Age: 3 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Henry Allen
Mother's name: Isabella Allen
Gender: Female
Where born: Exeter, Devon, England
Civil Parish: St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: Exeter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: St David
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 164
Piece: 2067
Folio: 55
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Allen 25
Isabella Allen 25
Isabella Allen 5
George Allen 3
Emily Allen 3 Months


So as the 1891 says Alice was born Bideford (even though 1881 says Exeter) the birth for Emily Harris must be her - perhaps the registrar misheard Alice as Harris.

Or else it's a mistranscription on the GRO Index.

safc

safc Report 17 Mar 2016 17:05

:-)

Christine

Christine Report 17 Mar 2016 16:40

well we learn by our mistakes as the saying goes ..only just purchased the membership here Cpl weeks back so will have to wait till next year to use another site .. if you are looking for something other than housework I can gladly keep you busy :-):-):-)

malyon and safc will look at those when little one is in bed tonight ..

safc you don't happen to be from sunderland do you ??

Christine x

malyon

malyon Report 17 Mar 2016 16:05


only two births for march 1871

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1871 (>99%)
ALLIN Emily Harris Bideford 5b 541


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1871 (>99%)
ALLEN Emily Exeter 5b 111

safc

safc Report 17 Mar 2016 16:03


Devon Marriages Transcription
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First name(s) Thomas
Last name Allin
Marriage year 1851
Birth year -
Spouse's first name(s) Thirza
Spouse's last name Gorvett
Residence Bulleter
County Devon
Denomination Anglican
Country England
Place Newton St Petrock
Father's first name Samuel
Father's last name Allin
Age -
Marriage date 20 Sep 1851
Spouse age -
Spouse's residence Bridge
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name Gorvett
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Archive reference 2966A/PR/1/5
Record set Devon Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

thomas is a blacksmith

malyon

malyon Report 17 Mar 2016 15:57

this is the marriage for thomas allin


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1851 (>99%)
Allin Thomas Bideford 10 87 Scan available - click to view
Gowett Thirza Bideford 10 87

Dea

Dea Report 17 Mar 2016 15:09

Me too Kath............. ;-) :-D :-D

Dea x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 17 Mar 2016 15:06

You're welcome Christine. It makes a change to have something to look for. These days the boards are very slow and I'm usually only on here for short periods because there is nothing to do and I'm not really doing any research into my own family any more.

p.s. I should really be doing housework but where's the fun in that

Kath. x ;-)

Christine

Christine Report 17 Mar 2016 15:03

thanks everyone keep up that amazing work xxx

Christine

Christine Report 17 Mar 2016 15:02

ive managed to find them on here kath the surname transcription is Allu
I got it by putting in the address and looking at original copy

Christine x

Dea

Dea Report 17 Mar 2016 15:01

Thank you safc and Kath - that's the right one then :-D

I tried an adress search and got up the ALLU name and then the site got itself into a tizzy and I couldn't get the rest up to check.

That name 'might' work on here then?

Dea Xxx

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 17 Mar 2016 15:00

Thanks Dea.

I have now found the 1891 census on Findmypast. Thirza has been mis-transcribed as Theresa with surname Allu.:-

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Thompson Street, Bishop Wearmouth, Sunderland, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Theresa Allu Head Widow Female 58 1833 - Devon, England
Thomas Allu Son Single Male 23 1868 Iron & Tin Plate Worker Bideford, Devon, England
Alice Allu Daughter Single Female 20 1871 Servant Domestic Bideford, Devon, England

EDIT - you got there before me safc

Kath. x
:-) :-)

safc

safc Report 17 Mar 2016 14:58


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Thompson Street, Bishop Wearmouth, Sunderland, Durham, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Theresa Allu Head Widow Female 58 1833 - Devon, England
Transcription
Thomas Allu Son Single Male 23 1868 Iron & Tin Plate Worker Bideford, Devon, England
Transcription
Alice Allu Daughter Single Female 20 1871 Servant Domestic Bideford, Devon, England

from find my past

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 17 Mar 2016 14:56

Genes really isn't the best place for research. It's great for the community boards like this one to get help but you would be better spending your money with a subscription to either Findmypast or Ancestry for looking up census, BMD's etc.

I have only ever had a basic subscription to Genes and I think a lot of other members are the same.

Kath. x

Dea

Dea Report 17 Mar 2016 14:55

I found the 1891 on Ancestry but couldn't find it on FMP.

I don't know about records through GR site as I never use them but I think it uses info from FMP ?

I can't check further on FMP at the moment as the site is 'having a wobbly' but you might like to try putting in the info below through GR and see if it brings the info up for you on here?

Allu Alice 1871 — 1891 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Bishop Wearmouth, Sunderland, Durham, England

Put in Alice ALLU......................

Dea x

Christine

Christine Report 17 Mar 2016 14:52

thanks kath that would explain ..I only have access to them on here ..

Christine x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 17 Mar 2016 14:50

I think Dea might have found the census details on Ancestry.

Kath. x

Christine

Christine Report 17 Mar 2016 14:44

hadn't got that far thanks kath for that info :-)

Christine x

Christine

Christine Report 17 Mar 2016 14:41

Dea sorry can I ask did you find the census info on here ?? just im searching alice allin and her dob on the 1891 census page and its not bringing that up ..any advice ?

Christine x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 17 Mar 2016 14:40

Did you notice from the 1911 census that Emily Alice and her second husband had had one child who had died by the time of the 1911 census?

I think this might be the child's birth and death:-

Birth:-

First name(s) ERNEST STANLEY
Last name OLDFIELD
Birth year 1910
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District SUNDERLAND
County Durham
Country England
Volume 10A
Page 740

and Death:-

First name(s) ERNEST S
Last name OLDFIELD
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1910
Age 0
Death quarter 4
Death year 1910
District SUNDERLAND
County Durham
Volume 10A
Page 330
Country England

Kath. x