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2 Mar 2016 16:02 |
richard spinks is in the workhouse in april 1842
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2 Mar 2016 16:00 |
Thanks, drawing a blank on mcdowall line, its a challenge, thanks again for all help, i found some interesting info on the web
Inmates of Mitford and Launditch Workhouse Gressenhall www.museums.norfolk.gov.uk/view/NCC111543 Mary. 9 Longham. Jul 1836. Bastard. 4 Jul 1836. Arthurton. Frederick. Colkirk ... Emma. 13 Oct 1947 17. Nov 1947. Asker. Albert. Oct 1902. From Norwich Union ... 10 Stanfield. Nov 1863. 16 Nov 1863. 1861. Bailey. Jane. Stanfield. Oct 1859.
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2 Mar 2016 15:22 |
Richard and Sarah had another son........
Thomas Richard Spinks in the England, Select Norfolk Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1900 Name: Thomas Richard Spinks Baptism Date: 5 Nov 1837 Baptism Place: Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Father: Richard Spinks Mother: Sarah Spinks
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2 Mar 2016 15:15 |
I think you will need to purchase a copy of the marriage cert for further info on Amelia (Minnie J) Jessica McDowall.
I have done a lot of searching but not had any luck.
Prickles.
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2 Mar 2016 14:42 |
reply, think you could be right sarah jane stokely.
I just noticed on other name trying to trace Minnie - amelia jessica mcdowell. on marriage to charles spink it states her name as minnie j. mcdowall. this may be writing/ spelling era, marriage was at colkirk 1913 in the quarter of Apr-May-June, but i cannot find any more on her except for this possibles - Minnie J Mcdowall England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005 marriage: 1913 Mitford, Norfolk, England spouse: Spinks other: Charles Spinks
Minnie Mcdowall England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008 birth registration: 1886 Islington, London, England
Minnie Mcdowall England, Lancashire, Parish Registers 1538-1910 christening: 9 January 1888 St Peter's Church, Parr, Lancashire, England father: William Mcdowall mother: Margaret Mcdowall
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2 Mar 2016 14:00 |
looks like dad Richard also married twice
RICHARD Last name SPINKS Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1849 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ RICHARD SPINKS married MARIA ABBOTT District MITFORD District number - County Norfolk Country England Volume 13 Page 587 Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
1851 First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Richard Spinks Head Married Male 48 1803 Grocer Barnham Broom, Norfolk, England Transcription Maria Spinks Wife Married Female 42 1809 - Suffolk, England
or three times ????? 1861 Richard Spinks Head Married Male 57 1804 Grocer And Baker Norfolk, England Transcription Ann Spinks Wife Married Female 47 1814 Grocers Wife Norfolk, England Transcription Census details House name Bath Office Street Fakenham Road Parish Horningtoft
Richard Last name Spinks Sex Male Age Of Full Age Birth year - Residence Horningtoft Marriage year 1858 Marriage date 25 Mar 1858 Parish Horningtoft Diocese Norwich Spouse's first name(s) Ann Spouse's last name Bartram Spouse's age of Full Age Spouse's parish Horningtoft Father's first name(s) Richard Father's last name Spinks Spouse's father's first name(s) Edward Spouse's father's last name Bartram County Norfolk Country England Archive Norfolk Record Office Archive reference PD 642/50 Page 21 Record set Norfolk marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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2 Mar 2016 13:38 |
Norfolk burials Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) Matilda Last name Spinks Sex Female Age 36 Birth year 1838 Death year - Burial year 1874 Burial date 07 Oct 1874 Parish Colkirk with Oxwick Diocese Norwich County Norfolk Country England Archive Norfolk Record Office Archive reference PD 665/9 Page 74 Record set Norfolk burials Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain
no children born to marriage
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2 Mar 2016 13:32 |
Charles Spinks in the 1841 England Census Name: Charles Spinks Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Gender: Male Where born: Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Horningtoft Hundred: Launditch County/Island: Norfolk Country: England
Registration district: Mitford Sub-registration district: North Elmham
Household Members:
Richard Spinks 35 (Carrier) Sarah Spinks 30 Charles Spinks 7
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2 Mar 2016 13:29 |
Charles's first wife was Matilda Curson.....
Charles Spinks in the England, Select Norfolk Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1900 Name: Charles Spinks Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Marriage Date: 11 Oct 1856 Marriage Place: Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Father: Richard Spinks Spouse: Matilda Curson
Charles Spinks in the Norfolk, England, Bishop's Transcripts, 1685-1941 Name: Charles Spinks Gender: Male Baptism Date: 21 Jul 1833 Baptism Place: Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Father: Richard Spinks (Occ: Carrier) Mother: Sarah
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2 Mar 2016 12:11 |
I found the 1930 Census (Kingswood Ohio) interesting.. Orin's father Orin snr. was 65... Pearl was 21....she married at 16...but they obviously divorced before the 1940 as she is stated as being Divorced.. Original Transcription looks okay relating to Orin snr.age
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2 Mar 2016 12:02 |
to tie in with the 1911 census
Emma Jane Spinks mentioned in the record of Robert George Bailey and Emma Jane Spinks Name Robert George Bailey Birth Date 1877 Age 22 Spouse's Name Emma Jane Spinks Spouse's Birth Date 1878 Spouse's Age 21 Event Date 05 Jul 1899 Event Place Colkirk, Norfolk, England Father's Name James Bailey Spouse's Father's Name Charles Spinks Citing this Record
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJM2-V8L : accessed 2 March 2016), Robert George Bailey and Emma Jane Spinks, 05 Jul 1899; citing Colkirk, Norfolk, England, reference item 16 p 108; FHL microfilm 2,262,530.
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England Marriages, 1538–1973 Indexing Project (Batch) Number I07446-1 System Origin England-EASy GS Film number 2262530 Reference ID item 16 p 108
Emma Jane Bailey Gender Female Husband Robert George Bailey Daughter Elsie May Bailey Name Elsie May Bailey Event Type Christening Event Date 06 Apr 1900 Event Place Tatterford, Norfolk, England Gender Female Father's Name Robert George Bailey Mother's Name Emma Jane Bailey
Emma Jane Bailey Gender Female Husband Robert George Bailey Daughter Elsie May Bailey Name Elsie May Bailey Event Type Christening Event Date 06 Apr 1900 Event Place Tatterford, Norfolk, England Gender Female Father's Name Robert George Bailey Mother's Name Emma Jane Bailey
Name Robert George Bailey Gender Male Wife Emma Jane Son Albert Charles Bailey Name Albert Charles Bailey Event Type Christening Event Date 24 Apr 1912 Event Place Colkirk,Norfolk, England Gender Male Father's Name Robert George Bailey Mother's Name Emma Jane
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2 Mar 2016 11:59 |
Fabulous :-)
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2 Mar 2016 11:58 |
I wonder if Jane was actually Sara Jane
1861
Sarah Jane Stokely England and Wales Census, 1861 Name Sarah Jane Stokely County Norfolk Event Type Census Event Date 1861 Event Place North Barsham, Norfolk, England Registration District Walsingham Residence Note Lynn Road Gender Female Age 10 Marital Status Unmarried Occupation Scholar Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Birth Year (Estimated) 1851 Birthplace North Barsham, Norfolk Page Number 15 Registration Number RG09 Piece/Folio 1246 / 36 Affiliate Record Type Household Household Role Gender Age Birthplace William Stokely Head M 42 North Barsham, Norfolk Sarah Stokely Wife F 44 Egmere, Norfolk Elizabeth Stokely Daughter F 23 Frithville, Lincolnshire Sarah Jane Stokely Daughter F 10 North Barsham, Norfolk Sarah Stokely Daughter F 4 North Barsham, Norfolk Citing this Record
"England and Wales Census, 1861," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7FB-YBB : accessed 2 March 2016), Sarah Jane Stokely in household of William Stokely, North Barsham, Norfolk, England; from "1861 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 9, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.
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2 Mar 2016 11:53 |
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Common End Colkirk Fakenham, Colkirk, Norfolk, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Jane Spinks Head Widow Female Private Means 60 1851 North Barsham Transcription Charles Spinks Son Single Male Farmer 32 1879 Colkirk Norfolk Transcription Elsie Bailey Granddaughter - Female School 11 1900 Tatterford Norfolk Address Common End Colkirk Fakenham Parish Colkirk County Norfolk Country England
1901 First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Jane Spinks Head Widow Female 50 1851 Living On Own Means Norfolk, England Transcription Charles Spinks Son Single Male 22 1879 Farmer Colkirk, Norfolk, England Street Dereham Road Common End
1881 name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Spinks Head Married Male 42 1839 Baker Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Transcription Jane Spinks Wife Married Female 30 1851 - Barsham, Norfolk, England Transcription Emma Spinks Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Colkirk, Norfolk, England Transcription Charles Spinks Son Single Male 2 1879 - Colkirk, Norfolk, England House number 103 Street Cottage Town - Parish Colkirk
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2 Mar 2016 11:44 |
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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Bakers Shop, Dereham Road, Colkirk, Mitford, Norfolk, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Spinks Head Married Male 57 1834 Baker And Farmer Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Transcription Jane Spinks Wife Married Female 40 1851 Baker North Barsham, Norfolk, England Transcription Emma J Spinks Daughter Single Female 13 1878 - Colkirk, Norfolk, England Transcription Charles Spinks Son Single Male 12 1879 Scholar Colkirk, Norfolk, England Transcription Census details First name(s) Charles Last name Spinks Relationship Head Marital status Married Gender Male Age 57 Birth year 1834 Occupation Baker And Farmer Birth town Horningtoft Birth town as transcribed HORNINGTOFT Birth county Norfolk Birth county as transcribed NORFOLK Birth place England House name Bakers Shop Street Dereham Road Town Bintree Parish Colkirk City - County Norfolk Registration district Mitford Archive reference RG12 Piece number 1557 Folio 33 Page 10 Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Census Collections from Great Britain
Norfolk marriages Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) Charles Last name Spinks Sex Male Age 43 Birth year 1833 Residence Colkirk Marriage year 1876 Marriage date 08 Nov 1876 Parish Colkirk with Oxwick Diocese Norwich Spouse's first name(s) Jane Spouse's last name Stokeley Spouse's age 26 Spouse's parish Colkirk Father's first name(s) Richard Father's last name Spinks Spouse's father's first name(s) William Spouse's father's last name Stokeley County Norfolk Country England Archive Norfolk Record Office Archive reference PD 665/8 Page 72 Record set Norfolk marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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2 Mar 2016 11:20 |
Thanks Prickly and Eringobragh. i am in contact with Andrew Carle, and he lives in USA, all the information is helping him get his tree going further. I have traced back some of his Spinks line to the town of colkirk , norfolk , England to find he has many relatives from that area. Everyone who has supplied information has made the search easier.
Thank you.
Now need to find the line from charles spinks b 1834 d 10/7/1900 occupation baker and his wife jane d 23/5/14 from colkirk.
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2 Mar 2016 10:16 |
On the outward passengers list, Charles and Minnie have been mis-transcribed with the surname "Spinke"
Clearly reads "Spinks" on the image.....
Minnie Spinke in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Name: Minnie Spinke Gender: Female Age: 27 Birth Date: abt 1886 Departure Date: 6 Jun 1913 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Melbourne, Australia Ship Name: Orama Shipping line: Orient Line Official Number: 132989 Master: A J Coad
Charles Spinks 34 Farmer Minnie Spinks 29 Housewife
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2 Mar 2016 09:40 |
Found this if it is the Orin L. that Millicent married then he either remarried or was married before Millicent but he was only 21at that time
http://www.theledger.com/article/20051107/OBITS/511070331
1940 Census of Geneva Village shows him aged 13 b Florida living with
Pearl Carle 31 mother Esther 11 sister John 8 brother
All details in his Obituary point to him being the husband of Millicent.
EDIT...The Lakeland referred to is Lakeland FLORIDA and not Ohio.
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2 Mar 2016 09:10 |
Millicent Carle died Oct 1984 in Geneva Ohio...
This is her grave but no Orin in the same Cemetery.
http://www.ashtabulagen.org/gravestones/egreen/ecb_1476.JPG
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1 Mar 2016 22:39 |
You can always get back to us if you get stuck.
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