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29 Feb 2016 22:37 |
My very elusive grandmother (Irene) Nellie Ranyell travelled to Bombay in December 1915 as Nurse to the Begum of Manavadar and then she disappeared! I can't seem to find mention of her anywhere. She left two children in orphanages who never knew what happened - Harold Royston Ranyell (b. 1903) and Irene Lucie Lavinia Ranyell (b. 1906). If anyone can offer me a direction as to how to trace records of her in Bombay, I would be very grateful. Thanks. Juliet
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29 Feb 2016 23:02 |
Marriages Jun 1934 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Collie James Port Westminster 1a 1258 >>>>Gibbon Donald W Ranyell Westminster 1a 1258 Port Gwendoline B Collie Westminster 1a 1258 >>>>Ranyell Irene Gibbon Westminster 1a 1258 .
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29 Feb 2016 23:12 |
For age
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Hazelwood Torquay, Tormoham, Devon, England
Joseph Hepworth Head Married Male Gentleman 76 1835 Lindley Huddersfield Sarah Hepworth Wife Married Female - 76 1835 Lindley Huddersfield Alice Reed Daughter Married Female - 31 1880 Leeds Yorkshire Eric Hepworth Reed Grandson Single Male - 0 1911 Bombay India Janey Brounlie Reed Visitor Widow Female - 67 1844 Govan Lanarks Catherine R Reid Visitor Single Female - 37 1874 Pollokshaws Renford Irene Nellie Ranyell Nurse Single Female - 28 1883 Tottenham Middlesex <<<<<<<<
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29 Feb 2016 23:17 |
Births Mar 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ranyell Nellie Edmonton 3a 287
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much later bapt??.
Print transcription First name(s) Nellie Last name Ranyell Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1898 Baptism date 07 Apr 1898 Residence Walthamstow, Essex, England Place Walthamstow County Essex Country England Father's first name(s) George Father's last name Ranyell Mother's first name(s) Eliza Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
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29 Feb 2016 23:21 |
I assume you probably have this as I can see via Google you've been researching the family for some years but just in case
http://www.unithistories.com/officers/Army_officers_R01.html
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malyon
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29 Feb 2016 23:21 |
Harold Royston Ranyell England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 birth: 1903 death: 1973 Epping, Essex, England COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE Attach to Family Tree Harold Royston Ranyell England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name Harold Royston Ranyell Event Type Death Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Registration Year 1973 Registration District Epping County Essex Event Place Epping, Essex, England Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969) 1903 Volume 4A Page 2436 Line Number 66
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29 Feb 2016 23:27 |
Just for ref helpers
https://www.british-genealogy.com/archive/index.php/t-64207.html
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Mar 2016 01:11 |
In case you don't have this ....... it appears she returned with the Hepworths from India, though not listed with them
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Miss Ranyell Port of Departure: Bombay, India Arrival Date: 1 Apr 1911 Port of Arrival: London, England Ship Name: Egypt Search Ship Database: Search for the Egypt in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd Official Number: 105581
from image:-
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Juliet
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1 Mar 2016 02:13 |
Thank-you so much all of you. How kind of you to take your time to help. Unfortunately, I've managed to track her as far as Bombay with the Begum of Manavadar until January 1916 and then she disappeared. Could she have died from the influenza epidemic? Or... married and reinvented herself? Juliet
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AustinQ
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1 Mar 2016 08:04 |
Family seriously mistranscibed- from Ancestry:
1891:
Name: George Pangwell Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Pangwell Gender: Male Where born: Weeds, India Civil Parish: Tottenham Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Middlesex Registration district: Edmonton ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Piece: 1076 Folio: 74 Page Number: 66 Household Members: Name Age George Pangwell 45 Eliza Pangwell 39 Louisa Pangwell 19 Laura Pangwell 15 Eliza Pangwell 14 Florence Pangwell 13 Ethel M Pangwell 12 Nellie Pangwell 9 Jessie Pangwell 5 Ernest Pangwell 5 Maud Pangwell 5/12 ---------------------------------------------
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Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 Name: Miss Ranywell (Nurse) Birth Date: abt 1885 Age: 28 Port of Departure: Bombay, India Arrival Date: 23 May 1913 Port of Arrival: London, England Ports of Voyage: Plymouth Ship Name: Egypt Shipping line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd Official Number: 105581
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Mar 2016 08:13 |
Harold Royston Last name Ranyell Birth year 1903 Birth date 26 Sep 1903 Event year 1913 School name King Edward VI Grammar School, Bury St Edmunds Town Bury St Edmunds County Suffolk Country England Parent name(s) Mrs Ranyell Book type Admissions Archive reference GD502/32 Folio / page no. - Archive Suffolk Record Office, Bury St Edmunds Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Category Institutions & organisations Subcategory Schools & education Collections from Great Britain
Harold Last name Ranyell Birth year 1903 Birth date 26 Sep 1903 Event year 1914 School name Model Boys School Town Norwich County Norfolk Country England Parent name(s) Mr Helsdon (comes under the heading of parent or guardian ) Book type Admissions Archive reference N_ED_8_19 Folio / page no. - Archive Norfolk Record Office Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Category Education & work Subcategory Schools & education Collections from Great Britain DC Thomson Family History
Says born Burt st Edmunds Last day at school 4.4.1917 left to go to work
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PricklyHolly
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1 Mar 2016 08:27 |
Did (Irene) Nellie marry Donald W Gibbon.........or was that posted as a possibility?
Ah, so it was the daughter who married Mr Gibbon?
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AustinQ
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1 Mar 2016 08:37 |
Think they were too young PH:
CWGC GIBBON, DONALD WILLIAM Rank:Lieutenant Date of Death: 25/03/1941 Age: 30 Regiment/Service: Royal Naval Reserve H.M.S. Medway Panel Reference: Panel 60, Column 1. Memorial: PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL Additional Information: Son of William Duff Gibbon and Clara Elizabeth Gibbon, of Usk, Monmouthshire; husband of Irene Gibbon.
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PricklyHolly
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1 Mar 2016 08:38 |
Yes I have just figured that out now.
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AustinQ
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1 Mar 2016 08:52 |
Sorry PH- didn't see that :-)
It's really frustrating- trying to look for Irene/ Nellies returning from India. There are loads!
Haven't followed this one through yet- but maybe Nellie was taken for a nickname of Ellen or Helen?
Name: Helen Irene Smith Birth Date: abt 1885 Age: 45 Port of Departure: Bombay, India Arrival Date: 11 Apr 1930 Port of Arrival: London, England Ports of Voyage: Plymouth Ship Name: Ranpura Shipping line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd Official Number: 148119
She appears to be travelling with S. Brabrant Smith 44, and Denham Smith 5
EDIT: SCRAP THIS ONE- a tree has the marriage in 1919- her name was Helen Irene Griffiths.
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PricklyHolly
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1 Mar 2016 08:53 |
My fault ........I edited.
Donald William Gibbon in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 Name: Donald William Gibbon Probate Date: 15 May 1946 Registry: Birmingham, England Death Date: 25 Mar 1941 Death Place: Birmingham, England
Of 56 Middleton Hall-road, Kings Norton, Birmingham died on or since 25 March 1941 on war service.
To Irene Gibbon widow.......Effects: £1628 4s 6d
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1 Mar 2016 08:59 |
1939 register
Found Donald W Gibbon at Adelaide House London Bridge an ARP warden housed with other ARP wardens, states married and a partner in an insurance firm. There are too many Irenes to find her, BUT he was born 1911 so 23/24 on marriage above.
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AustinQ
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1 Mar 2016 10:10 |
I'm now not sure
1939 electoral register has a Donald William Gibbon living with Irene Mary Theresa Gibbon at 14 Southlands Road, Birmingham
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1 Mar 2016 13:50 |
First name(s) Nellie Last name Ranyell Relationship Servant Marital status Single Gender Female Age 19 Birth year 1882 Occupation Draper's Assistant Birth town Tottenham Birth town as transcribed TOTTENHAM Birth county Middlesex Birth county as transcribed MIDDLESEX Birth place England.
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1 Mar 2016 17:07 |
This is the man that was named as parent/guardian on the school admission
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 104 Pottergate St Norwich, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Frederick Helsdon Head Married Male Printers Warehouseman 45 1866 Norfolk Norwich Edith Helsdon Wife Married Female - 42 1869 Norfolk Norwich Edward Helsdon Son Single Male Auctioneers Clerk 19 1892 Norfolk Norwich Emily Lincoln Mother In Law Widow Female - 68 1843 Norfolk Norwich Harry Hall Boarder - Male School 12 1899 Norfolk Honningham Charles Howlett Boarder Single Male Engineer 27 1884 Norfolk E Dereham Frederick Davey Boarder Single Male Engineer 22 1889 Norfolk Norwich Frederick Adams Boarder Single Male Eyesight Specialist 23 1888 Stafford Walsall
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