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Hi Nicola just seen this - so interesting!

got there!!!


Wencaslaus Moly
Birth Date: abt 1864
Date of Registration: Mar 1919
Age at Death: 55
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 293

now im really confused - one of us is wrong!!!!

James "Wenceslaus" /Maly/
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GENDER

Male
BIRTH

12 October 1863
Lomy, Moravia
Sources3
DEATH

22 May 1935
Butler County Nebraska
RESIDENCE

1930
Bruno, Butler, Nebraska
Sources1
RESIDENCE

1885
Skull Creek, Butler, Nebraska
Sources1
RESIDENCE

1880
Skull Creek, Butler, Nebraska, United States
Sources1
PARENTS

FATHER

Peter /Maly/
MOTHER

Antonia /Matel/
SOURCES (3)

Nebraska State Census Collection, 1860-1885 Ancestry.com :
1880 United States Federal Census, Year: 1880; Census Place: Skull Creek, Butler, Nebraska; Roll: 744; Ancestry.com :
1930 United States Federal Census, Year: 1930; Census Place: Bruno, Butler, Nebraska; Roll: 1267; Page: Ancestry.com :
CITING THIS RECORD

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "Pedigree Resource File," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:34XM-17B : accessed 2016-02-20), entry for James "Wenceslaus" /Maly/.
PEDIGREE RESOURCE FILE
PERSON COUNT

34,383
SUBMISSION ID

MMDN-Y9K

Robert W Chappell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Edmonton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 269

just posting as a possible
poor man whoever- says he's deaf, dumb and feeble minded.



Robert William Chapell
Age in 1911: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation to Head: Patient
Birth Place: N K
Civil Parish: Edmonton
Search Photos: Search for 'Edmonton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: Edmonton Union Infirmary, Bridport Road, Upper Edmonton
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: N K
Registration district: Edmonton
Registration District Number: 132
Sub-registration district: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 56-59
Piece: 7406
Household Members:
Name Age

banns of marriage!! looks like Capon was Matildas maiden name and she reverted back to it for one reason or another! and most of her children too
(Except William Robert)

Banns of marriage
Matilda Jane Capon
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Age: 18
Spouse: Robert William Chappell
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Jan 1865
Parish: All Saints, Battle Bridge
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Walter Capon
Spouse Father: George Chappell
Register Type: Parish Register

1891
now theyr'recalled Capon!!!

I did find Matilda working as a nurse (monthly) as Matilda capon in 1901 too.


Maria Capon
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: St Luke, London, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Regent
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 117
Folio: 172
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Louisa Capon 24
Maria Capon 20
Alfred Capon 14
Annie Capon 12
Merl Capon 25
:-( :-(

1881 -still Chappell /Chapple

Matilda Chapple
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Robert Chapple
Mother: Eliza Chapple
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 6A Alice Place Berger Road
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Hackney
Sub registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 309
Folio: 46
Page Number: 69
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Chapple 36
Matilda Chapple 33
Alice Chapple 15
Lousia Chapple 14
William Chapple 12
Maria Chapple 10
Elizabeth Chapple 6
Alfred Chapple 4
Annie Chapple 2
Eliza Chapple 75
SAVE

found maria with her mother (Transcription wrong -image says matilda J) but still not sure how mother becomes 'capon'


Maria J Chappell
Age: 1 Month
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Robert W Chappell
Mother's name: Matilda D Chappell
Gender: Female
Where born: St Luke, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Anne Limehouse
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Limehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 74
Piece: 549
Folio: 10
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert W Chappell 27
Matilda D Chappell 24
Alice M Chappell 5
Louisa A Chappell 4
William Robert Chappell 2
Maria J Chappell 1 Month
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have just been told by Sidney's dasughter that she was told his mum died at about 39 and found a very likey death registered in Kensington age 40 but spelt Maley.

I'll have to check it out -but seems a good possible. Aparently Sid remembered his dad came back to england, and had a tailors shop in marylebone. and then died when sid was around 18 years old -he remembers his sisters werent allowed to see him as they were girls! so must be around war time ish -but haven't found anything yet!



sids daughter seems to think that the granma who looked after sid and sisters was Maria's mum -but i can't work out if she had married a second time yet -as obviously different surname to Maria's maiden name.
thanks for all help x

Name: Maria Maley
Record Type: Death
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Death Date: 27 Sep 1910
Death Place: Saint Marylebone, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: Saint Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Register
SAVE

I also cannot find anything for his wife, except her birth registration, the marriage registration, and the 1901 Census

I tried to find a connection with Capon, but nada


Have you got their marriage certificate to see what information is on there?

See what you mean Sylvia - just seen passengers - it's all very very odd!

Hmmm - you wouldn't be in a directory if you were just visiting would you! I m wondering if he actually came back to England at all now
Thanks ??

from the Ellis Island site

First Name : Weneslaws
Last Name : Maly
Nationality : Austria, Bohemian
Last Place of Residence : London, England
Date of Arrival : August 30th, 1907
Age at Arrival : 43y 10m
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married
Ship of Travel : Baltic
Port of Departure : Liverpool
Manifest Line Number : 0016

from image of ship manifest:-

Going to friend Mr Tanatia, 499 4 Ave New York
Born in Cadon (??), Bohemia

Strange thing is that the 2 passengers ahead of him give the same address in NY, yet the names do not seem to be related

14 Sverepa Antonio London, England Bohemian
15 Hansen Holgar Sevansea, Wales Danish
16 Maly Weneslaws London, England Bohemian


Antonio Sverepa
Marital Status Married
GENDER Male
Age at Arrival 32y
Ethnicity N/A
Last Place of Residence London, England
Year of Birth N/A
Passenger ID 102064070014
Date of Arrival August 30th, 1907
Ship of Travel Baltic
Port of Departure Liverpool


Holgar Hansen
Marital Status Single
GENDER Male
Age at Arrival 25y
Ethnicity N/A
Last Place of Residence Sevansea, Wales
Year of Birth N/A
Passenger ID 102064070015
Date of Arrival August 30th, 1907
Ship of Travel Baltic
Port of Departure Liverpool

First name(s) MATILDA A
Last name MALY
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1895
Age 32
Death quarter 2
Death year 1927
District KENSINGTON
County London
Volume 1A
Page 171
Country England

First name(s) WINIFRED MARIE
Last name MALY
Birth year 1896
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District PANCRAS
County London
Country England
Volume 1B
Page 28

First name(s) WINIFRED M
Last name MALY
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1896
Age 61
Death quarter 2
Death year 1957
District PANCRAS
County London
Volume 5D
Page 337
Country England

1939 register

Maly Household (1 Person)
62 Marylebone Lane , St Marylebone, London, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Winifred M Maly 27 Feb 1896 Female Tailoress Single 322 1
Ref: RG101/0457E/020/14 Letter Code: ARAP
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Wenceslaus Maly

in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995
Name: Wenceslaus Maly
Residence Year: 1908
Street address: 2214 E 21st SE
Residence Place: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Occupation: Tailor
Publication Title: Cleveland, Ohio, City Directory, 1908

thanks i have everything on from there about Sid - so please dont waste your time looking for me .

SIDNEY F
Last name MALY
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1926
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ SIDNEY F MALY married
ELIZABETH DUNFORD
Spouse's last name DUNFORD
District MARYLEBONE
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 994
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain


First name(s) SIDNEY F
Last name MALY
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1901
Age 65
Death quarter 1
Death year 1966
District KENSINGTON
County London
Volume 5C
Page 843
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

no stranger and stranger the more you look! and his wife just seems have to disppeared too -but not with him!
have to go now -but thatnks everyone for help xx