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Can't see Eliza in 1871 either, but here she is (probably) in 1861 (Alviegal has posted 1881 earlier):
Eliza E Gibbons
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Eliza E Gibbons
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: 1844
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: Sutton
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Epsom
Sub-registration district: Carshalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 15
Piece: 418
Folio: 112
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Emma Campion 46
Sarah Campion 44
Frederic Wm Campion 38
Eliza Campion 34
Eliza E Gibbons 17
Elizbth Brown 13
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A tree on ancestry has this for John.
John Gibbons
1842–1896
Birth ABT 1842 • Banbury, Oxfordshire, England
Death 16 DEC 1896 • Helmdon, Northamptonshire, , England
Parents
Charles Gibbons
Charles Gibbons
1814–1896
Ann Sumners
1815–1883
Birth
abt 1842 • Banbury, Oxfordshire, England
1842
(AGE)
Birth of Brother Thomas Gibbons(1844–1896)
1844 • Kings Sutton, Northamptonshire, England
1844
1
Birth of Sister Emma Gibbons(1846–1904)
abt 1846 • Kings Sutton, Northamptonshire, England
1846
4
Birth of Brother George Gibbons(1849–1840)
14 Feb 1849 • Sutton, Northamptonshire, , England
1849
7
Birth of Brother William H F Gibbons(1851–1939)
abt 1851 • Kings Sutton, Northamptonshire, England
1851
8
Residence
1851 • Kings Sutton, Northamptonshire, England
Relation to Head of House: Son
1851
9
Birth of Sister Amy A Gibbons(1856–1904)
26 Nov 1856 • Sutton, Northamptonshire, , England
1856
14
Residence
1861 • Kings Sutton, Northamptonshire, England
Relation to Head of House: Son
1861
19
Birth of Daughter Emily Kate Matseder(1876–1953)
abt 1876 • Pimlico, London, England
1876
33
Birth of Daughter Eleanor Gibbons(1878–1955)
abt 1878 • Battersea, Surrey, England
1878
36
Residence
1881 • Battersea, London, England
Relation to Head of House: Head; Marital Status: Married
1881
39
Death of Mother Ann Sumners(1815–1883)
29 Oct 1883 • Sutton, Northamptonshire, , England
1883
41
Death of Father Charles Gibbons(1814–1896)
10 Mar 1896 • Sutton, Northamptonshire, , England
1896
54
Death of Brother Thomas Gibbons(1844–1896)
16 Dec 1896 • Northamptonshire, United Kingdom
1896
54
Death
16 Dec 1896 • Helmdon, Northamptonshire, , England
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I don't really think this is him, but I'll post it just in case. It's the nearest I can find re YOB and birth county:
John Gibbons
in the 1871 England Census
Name: John Gibbons (Private, 4th Foot)
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Gender: Male
Where born: Daventry, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Chester
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chester
Sub-registration district: Chester Castle
ED, institution, or vessel: Chester Castle Barracks
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 3724
Folio: 44
Page Number: 8
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John Gibbons
in the Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1912
Name: John Gibbons
Birth Date: 9 Mar 1842
Baptism Date: 10 Apr 1842
Baptism Place: Kings Sutton, Northamptonshire, England
Age: 0
Parish as it Appears: Kings Sutton
Register Type: Parish Registers
Father: Charles Gibbons
Mother: Ann Gibbons
This could be his birth:
Births Jun 1842 (>99%
GIBBONS Male Brackley 15 207
Can't see that John in 1871 so far, but here he is in 1851:
John Gibbons
in the 1851 England Census
Name: John Gibbons
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's name: Charles Gibbons
Mother's name: Ann Gibbons
Gender: Male
Where born: Kings Sutton, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Kings Sutton
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Brackley
Sub-registration district: Brackley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 1735
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Gibbons 37
Ann Gibbons 36
Edwin Gibbons 12
John Gibbons 9
Thomas Gibbons 7
Emma Gibbons 5
George Gibbons 2
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Alviegal: looking good for EEG, thanks.
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ArgyllGran: thank you and can you see JG in 1871 please?? If he is still single in that census, then we can narrow down the date for their marriage hopefully. :-)
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I would say this is Eliza's birth. There is also one in Clerkenwell in the same year.
England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription
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First name(s) ELIZA EMILY
Last name GIBBONS
Birth year 1843
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District ST. JAMES WESTMINSTER
County London
Country England
Volume 1
Page 96
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Suggestion for John in 1861. Kings Sutton isn't far from Banbury.
John Gibbons
in the 1861 England Census
Name: John Gibbons
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: 1842
Relation: Son
Father's name: Charles Gibbons
Mother's name: Ann Gibbons
Gender: Male
Where born: Kings Sutton, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Kings Sutton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Brackley
Sub-registration district: Brackley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 81
Piece: 922
Folio: 47
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Gibbons 47
Ann Gibbons 46
John Gibbons 19 - servant
Thomas Gibbons 17
George Gibbons 12
William H F Gibbons 10
Charles E Gibbons 8
Amy Gibbons 5
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For helpers' info -
John Gibbons was born Banbury c1842, and Eliza in London:
John Gibbons
in the 1881 England Census
Name: John Gibbons
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Eliza E. Gibbons
Gender: Male
Where born: Banbury, Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 13 Landseer St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coachman (Domestic Servant)
Registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 54
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 649
Folio: 93
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
John Gibbons 39
Eliza E. Gibbons 37
Emily K. Gibbons 5
Eleanor Gibbons
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Just putting this for places of birth and ages.
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, Landseer Street, Battersea, Wandsworth, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Gibbons Head Married Male 39 1842 Coachman (Domestic Servant) Banbury, Oxfordshire, England
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Eliza E Gibbons Wife Married Female 37 1844 - London, Middlesex, England
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Emily K Gibbons Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
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Eleanor Gibbons Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Battersea, Surrey, England
1891 has Eliza a widow and born in Mayfair, Middlesex.
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I am officially annoyed with myself. I CANNOT find this marriage with any permutation I can think of.
JOHN GIBBONS to ELIZA E. GIBBONS - yes, they had the same surname.
Here is their firstborn:
Emily Kate Gibbons born 18th April 1875 at 21 Caroline Street, London to John Gibbons, Groom Domestic Servant, and Eliza Emily Gibbons formerly Gibbons all of 21 Caroline Street, Pimlico.
I have found EEG in a couple of censuses [I think] but it is their marriage we're after, please.
And please, please don't waste your valuable time and kindness in looking up their offspring, etc. We have all that.
But if you can find John Gibbons going back, that would be good too. He was a Groom.
Once we've nailed their marriage and I can order the MC, then I can nail her father, etc.
Thank you.
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