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AustinQ

AustinQ Report 11 Feb 2016 16:05


I'd be tempted to get that death certificate for Hannah Goff, but not sure about that death for George in 1868- think that death belongs to this George:

Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal - Friday 18 September 1868
VALLANCE: On the 6th inst at Warmbrook, Wirksworth, Mr George Vallance aged 36.

1861
Name: George Vallons
[George Vallance]
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Vallons
Gender: Male
Where born: Wirksworth, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Wirksworth
Town: Wirksworth
County/Island: Derbyshire
Registration district: Belper
Sub-registration district: Wirksworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 44
Piece: 2517 Folio: 23 Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
George Vallons 29
Hannah Vallons 30
Joseph Vallons 7
Anne Vallons 6
George Vallons 3
Hannah Vallons 9/12

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Feb 2016 16:38

Just for interest - Miss Jessop of Butterley Hall in 1881, with a companion and lots of servants.
Whichever Vallance boy it was she took under her wing in 1876 couldn't have stayed long - Alfred & Walter were in the workhouse, and there's no sign of another Vallance boy here:

Sarah M. Jessop
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Sarah M. Jessop
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Gender: Female
Where born: Ripley, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Ripley
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address: Butterley Hall
Registration district: Belper
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3414
Folio: 85
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah M. Jessop 24
Jessie B. Adams 31 - companion
Elizabeth Morris 21
Sarah Cooke 29
Harriet Barker 19
Catherine Slater 19
Kate Ferguson 18
Jesse Bennett 17
Walter Wolstenholm 19

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Feb 2016 16:54

Possibly another child of Hannah Maria ???

Births Dec 1869 (>99%)
VALLANCE Hannah Belper 7b 436

Deaths Jun 1870
Vallance Hannah 0 Belper

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 11 Feb 2016 17:02

This looks to be another child Hanna Maria and George born in 1869:

First name(s) JOHN WILLIAM
Last name VALLANCE
Birth year 1869
Birth quarter 4
District BELPER
County Derbyshire
Volume 7B Page 439
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Baptism
Name: John William Vallance
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 13 Jan 1870
Baptism Place: Crich,Derby,England
Death Date: 19 Jan 1870
Father: George Vallance
Mother: Hannah Maria
FHL Film Number: 498054, 498055
--------------------------------------

Burial:
First name(s) John William
Last name Vallance
Event year 1870
Burial year 1870
Burial date 19 Jan 1870
Burial place Crich, Derbyshire, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Feb 2016 17:05

(tricky with Derbys., as there is also below!)

Chris :)

County Derbyshire
Place Wirksworth
Church name St Mary
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 8 Dec 1851
Groom forename George
Groom surname VALLENCE
Groom age Minor
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom parish Wirksworth
Groom occupation Labourer
Bride forename Hannah
Bride surname GRATTON
Bride age Of full age
Bride condition Spinster
Bride parish Wirksworth
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname VALLENCE
Groom father occupation Labourer
Bride father forename John
Bride father surname GRATTON
Bride father occupation Miner
Witness1 forename George
Witness1 surname COOKE
Witness2 forename Rebecca
Witness2 surname LEAM


County Derbyshire
Place Crich
Church name St Mary
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 24 Dec 1860
Groom forename George
Groom surname VALLENCE
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom parish Fritchley
Groom occupation Labourer
Bride forename Martha
Bride surname HALL
Bride condition Spinster
Bride parish Fritchley
Groom father forename George
Groom father surname VALLENCE
Groom father occupation Boatman
Bride father forename Joseph
Bride father surname HALL
Bride father occupation Framework Knitter
Witness1 forename George
Witness1 surname SWIFT
Witness2 forename Mary
Witness2 surname HALL

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Feb 2016 17:10

Hannah Maria's birth?? (Based on Mary's post on page 1, saying born Holmesfield.)

Births Dec 1846 (>99%)
Hill Hannah Maria Chesterfield 19 478


On page 1, Beverley said Walter's mother was stated to be Hannah Vallance, late Hill, formerly Goff .
That means she must have married a Goff before Mr Vallance, but I don't see a Hill / Goff marriage.

Also, why would she be buried as Goff, if that was neither her maiden nor her current married name? Is that a different Hannah?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Feb 2016 17:20

Don't think this has been posted before - apologies if so:

[EDIT: - Oops, yes it has - by Gins on page 1.]

Hannah Mauabalons (Hannah Maria Valons on image)
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Hannah Mauabalons
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Where born: Holmesfield, Derbyshire, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Crich
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Belper
Sub-registration district: Ripley
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 117
Piece: 3587
Folio: 38
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Hannah Mauabalons 25 - widow
Mary Elizabeth Valons 4 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Martha Valons 2 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Thomas Mills 27 - lodger
Alice Mills 21 - lodger's wife
Alfred Williams 18 - lodger

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 11 Feb 2016 18:04

The George Vallance that married Hannah Gratton died in 1868- the 1861 for that family is posted at 16:05. Don't think this is the correct family.

It's possible that Hannah Maria Hill/ Goff/ Vallance just lived with/ had children with a Mr Goff after her husband, Mr Vallance had died/ left. If she wasn't married to Goff, the children would've been still registered as Vallance- so perhaps adding Goff to her names was just her way of acknowledging the father. Lets face it- many people got away with putting 'not quite the truth' on birth and marriage certs.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Feb 2016 18:25

(was anymore found from address on below?, is that Ayrton Street)

Chris :)

Posts - bevken - RootsChat
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area...;u=95793

25th March 1874. WALTER BOY Father : Alfred Vallance Mother : Hannah Vallance , Late Hill , Formally ... Address 13 Airton Street , Horton , Bradford Yorkshire.

Beverley

Beverley Report 11 Feb 2016 18:50

I found Ireton Street , Horton , off Legrams Lane Which would fit .. on the birth cert Hannah marked her name by a X obviously couldn't read or write so the Registrar just wrote as she said it !!

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 11 Feb 2016 18:53

Just to add to Chris Ho's post- when you went to Keighley Library, were there any records on Alfred? Also were there (or did you search for) records of Alfred and Walter's entry to the workhouse?

Perhaps you need to contact the West Yorkshire Archives to see if they hold the relevant records:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/b16ab396-4349-4b09-a5e8-6d742b992d36

Beverley

Beverley Report 11 Feb 2016 20:41

The only records that have survived from North Bierley are held at Keighley and they only had the boarding out of children Ledger no admit ions no record of Alfred in the book !!

Have sent for marriage cert of Martha will have it by the 17th Feb .. already sent for copies of Alfred's two marriages a few years back and of course Mum had the original cert of her Grandparents Walter and Annie so wonderful to hold the certificate that they held almost 110 years ago June 2nd 1906 :)




Dea

Dea Report 11 Feb 2016 21:25

You are so right Beverley - SO very wonderful to hold the original records of those very special moments in your hands.

Dea x

Beverley

Beverley Report 19 Feb 2016 11:58

Disappointed received Martha's Wedding cert this morning and Father's name has a line through it , thus not naming her Father ... so don't know if Martha was Sister to our Alfred and Walter .

Where to go from now I'll have to put my thinking cap on !!!!


Beverley