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Many thanks for all the advice. I am going to try to move on to Francis Henry Bovey's dad who I believe is John Bovey, eventually taking me back to the Bovey roots in Devon.
Thanks
Lesley

Lesley there is no birth showing for 1851, it's not unusual to find people have knocked a few years off their age especially if they marry someone younger.

Thanks Chris I didn't know how to look up old messages.

Francis Henry Bovey year of birth is 1843 and in other searches it comes up at 1851. Would this be the same person?
Thanks Lesley

Lesley just in case you missed it, Margee has already posted the baptism details which give his birth date and matches the birth reg...there's only the one birth for F H Bovey at that period and place so probably not worth you paying out for the birth cert for the same detail?

" Margee Report 25 Jan 2016 12:57
Francis Henry Bovey

in the London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
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Name: Francis Henry Bovey
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1844
Father's name: John Bovey
Mother's name: Sarah Bovey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 2 Oct.1843, father a tailor. "

The birth registration? :-

First name(s) FRANCIS HENRY
Last name BOVEY
Birth year 1843
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District LAMBETH
County London
Country England
Volume 4
Page 300

Kath. x

The information below that was put on by Rose is correct as far as I know and the Samuel Bovey Son Male 13 1888 would be my granddad.

Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Francesese Bovey Head Married Male 50 1851 Hawker London, England Transcription
Eliza Bovey Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Transcription
Sarah Bovey Daughter Single Female 16 1885 - - Transcription
Samuel Bovey Son - Male 13 1888 - - Transcription
Emma Bovey Daughter - Female 11 1890.

I am now going to try to locate Francesese Bovey's birth cert to see if his father was John Bovey.

Again many thanks Lesley

Neither did I :-) I went off and asked GR ( on FB) if the advanced search would ever be fixed in order to check whether there were old threads before going over the same ground. :-)

OK, understood, I didn't read that previous thread all the way through.

Margee, I think it's all the right family not necessarily in the right order ;-)

Samuel

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7, Dobbs Cross, St George the Martyr Southwark, St Saviour Southwark, London, England


Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Francesese Bovey Head Married Male 50 1851 Hawker London, England Transcription
Eliza Bovey Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Transcription
Sarah Bovey Daughter Single Female 16 1885 - - Transcription
Samuel Bovey Son - Male 13 1888 - - Transcription
Emma Bovey Daughter - Female 11 1890

I think it is all the same family - he was a waterside labourer in 1891!

Francis Bobby
[Francis Bovey]
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Bobby
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England
Civil Parish: St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephan
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Waterside Labourer


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Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: Kent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 344
Folio: 123
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Bobby 45
Eliza Bobby 35 now born Southwark !
Francis Bobby 14
Sarah Bobby 7
Samuel Bobby 4
Emma Bobby 9/12

Emma's marriage gives her father as General Dealer:

Name: Emma Bovey
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Age: 20
Spouse: William John Bowlas (should be BOWLES).
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1909
Parish: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Francis Bovey - General Dealer
Spouse Father: William John Bowlas
Register Type: Parish Register

AND, you will remember that the 1911 I posted above shows grandson Ernest Payne (even though he was not transcribed) which woiuld fit with Sarah's marriage (already posted above) and her father was also a general Dealer.

Dea x

Good grief! I just read the previous thread where Lesley says she has her grandfather's birth certificate. Evidently he was Samuel Bovey born 28 April 1887, father Francis Bovey (waterside labourer) and Eliza Bovey formerly Harrison.

So is everything that we've posted here a different family?

Daughter Sarah's marriage:

Name: Ernest Payne
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Age: 21
Spouse: Sarah Elizabeth Bovey
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1904
Parish: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Robert Payne
Spouse Father: Francis Bovey - General Dealer
Register Type: Parish Register
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Dea x

Thanks Chris, I should have googled !

Francis Harry Bovey

in the London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
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Name: Francis Harry Bovey
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Oct 1896
Father's name: Harry Francis Bovey
Mother's name: Margaret Bovey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Walworth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 25 Sep.1896, father a general dealer.

Francis Henry Bovey

in the London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
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Name: Francis Henry Bovey
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1844
Father's name: John Bovey
Mother's name: Sarah Bovey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 2 Oct.1843, father a tailor.

Many thanks for all the really useful replies. I am a little bit confused now :(
I thought Francis Bovey married Eliza Harrison (born 1857 in Bristol)
It doesn't help that he named one of his sons Francis.
I think that Francis Henry Bovey whos fathers name is John Bovey fits with what I have.
Think I need to digest this info and try to find out who was married to who!
Once again many thanks. I am going to try to find out his birth info so I can order the birth certificate and hop[e that it shows John Bovey as his father.
Really appreciate all the help.
Lesley

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1327461?d=asc

(does info. on above relate?)

Chris :)

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Marshall Street, Saint George the Martyr, Saint George Southwark, Surrey, England

Sarah Bovey Head Married Female 36 1815 Allowance By Husband Westminster, Middlesex, England
John Joseph J Bovey Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Jobbing Labourer Westminster, Middlesex, England
Francis Henry Bovey Son - Male 7 1844 Scholar Lambeth, Surrey, England
Frederick Thos Bovey Son - Male 2 1849 - Lambeth, Surrey, England

Don't know if this is relevant.........but going by the 1901 census with wife Margaret

Francis Bovey in the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Francis Bovey (Bachelor) General Dealer
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Age: 20
Spouse: Margaret Cohen (Spinster) Cloth Sorter
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Mar 1897
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Francis Bovey (General Dealer)
Spouse Father: Robert Cohen (Hatter)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Edward Carney and Harriet Webster

Father's marriage:

Francis Henry Bovey

in the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
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Name: Francis Henry Bovey
Spouse: Sarah Howe
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Jan 1872
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Bovey
Spouse Father: William Howe
Register Type: Parish Register

He's a costermonger, his father a tailor. Her father a clog maker.